IVF graduates due Summer 2021

[SpyroC]

A place for those of us finally moving on from the infertility boards to share feelings, questions, tmi and to generally support each other.

Oh and baby is breech so I now need to somehow make them turn in the next few weeks 😫

@ekam sounds tough. You should call speaking in a language you cannot understand. Its not on. Better to transparent. I wouldn't worry about any femur length or anything if the consultant is chilled. Hope the baby turns around soon.

@ekam i'm so sorry you've had a worrying experience at your scan, it did sound like the sonographers could have handled it better, but if the consultant didn't seen worried therm try not to let it worry you too much (easier said than done i know). Growth scans are notoriously innacurate anyway and anything serious would have been picked up way before 36 weeks i think. There's still time for baby to turn too 🤞🤞🤞

@ekam sorry to hear about this experience. I would call to give feedback as this shouldn’t feel like this and even if consultants share a common language it’s not professional to use a different language in front of a patient in the background. I am sure that’s against the code of practice. My little one also had a lower than expected growth increase in FL and the consultant told me this is why the percentile has changed now but that’s not if a worry only significant drop in velocity in abdominal of head circumference would require another scan/followup or investigation.

@ekam this maybe useful as it was mentioned in my hypnobirth course:

Spinning Babies: www.spinningbabies.com - advice on how to encourage a breech or back-to-back baby to turn into the optimum position for birth.

Hi all, sorry I've missed so much, I'll go back a little and see if I can catch up but apologies if I miss a previous update from you!

@ekam sorry to hear about your recent scan experience, sounds unnecessarily stressful due to how they treated you!

@tikha woooo to you finishing work now! It must feel like a relief, I still have 4 weeks of work to go but I am only doing 3/4 day weeks

@MF1981 hopefully the iron tablets are starting to kick in and have an impact on your energy levels a little bit 🤞🏼

@Leala20 congrats on reaching full term, I imagine it's exciting and nervous at the same time!

@TheGlitterFairy massive congratulations!! It must have been a scary time but he's here and a really good weight 💙

I hope everyone else is doing well 🥰

For me, I'm in the process of changing hospitals, I had a growth scan this week and she's measuring on the larger size but nothing to cause any concern. I have got an extra lobe on the placenta which initially caused me a bit of worry! I will also be joining the new car club, I just need to get moving and start looking at what I want, I literally can't fit a baby car seat in and out my 3 door car properly!!

Is anyone testing their group B strep privately? I've heard about it a couple of times recently and I know most hospitals don't test for it during labour

@ekam I'm sorry you had that experience. Very poor from the sonographers I think. I would echo what others have said about growth scans often being inaccurate & the consultant not worrying being a good sign. The same think actually happened to a lady in my yoga group (a few weeks earlier) it really upset her. The very experienced midwife that leads the group was adamant that it was nothing at all to worry about. I trust her, she knows her stuff. My babies legs always measure on the smaller side yet me & DH are tall. I bet she ends up being long! Try to relax, I know, much easier said than done!

@ivfjourney5 the group B test sounds like a good idea. I'm hesitating in ordering it as I feel like I'll probably have it and it will give me another problem to take me away from the relaxing, preferably midwife led water or active birth I want. Stupid really, I think I just need to order it.

My back constantly aches when in a seated position. Not great being as my job is now 100% desk based 🤦🏻‍♀️

@spyroC 26.07 💗
@TheGlitterFairy 25.07 💚 arrived 15.06 💙🥰
@ChicaXS 04.08 💙
@SamoyedFan123 💙 induction on 28/06
@BonTon 18 weeks ?
@ivfjourney5 15.08 💗
@MGee123 11.08 💗
@ekam 23.07 💚
@MF1981 10.10/20.09💙💗
@tikha 20 weeks 💗
@sazzt 25.08 💗
@Leala20** 25 weeks💗

@TheGlitterFairy MASSIVE CONGRATULATIONS 🥳 welcome to the boy club! I’m sorry you went through this journey but he is such a good size and happy and healthy. Your journey now is beginning. Have you gone home yet or are they keeping you in?

@ekam I am so sorry to hear this! But don’t worry ! I would complain though (I probably would have switched on them at the time😂 and said something borderline controversial like WE LIVE IN ENGLAND!) but don’t worry about them it’s all noise. The markers of anything wrong would have been flagged between 10-20 weeks so don’t worry! Try and enjoy the rest of the pregnancy. If it’s any help, I’m 33 weeks and my baby is transverse! I’m one of the minorities of babies being transverse. Breech babies have a better chance of moving by 37 weeks to cephalic then transverse! I have a growth scan next week with a doctor so I hope he tells me not to panic! I still have a lot of time and I recommend spinning babies which I’ll start the exercises next week to get him moving.

I leave work on 23rd July which is close! But I have too much on I couldn’t walk away and hoping I can have a week off before the baby comes.

Glad to hear everyone is doing well! Has anyone taken the covid jab yet? I decided to wait after birth but now freaking out a bit with the delta variant and my husband has now gone back to work.

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Bye @ivfjourney5 I ordered a private strep B swab which I think you do at 36 weeks x

@chicaXS I had my Covid jab at 29 weeks. Had Covid during the first trimester and that was pretty awful - definitely didn't want to get it in the third so I'm glad I had the jab. Sadly doesn't look like I'm going to get my second one in time though.

Interesting hearing your thoughts on NCT @SpyroC. We start ours next weekend. I'm a bit sceptical about it to be honest but hopefully it will be useful in some way! We're definitely mostly in it for the meeting people side of things and I just can't see how that will work well online. Guess it depends on your group a bit though 🤷‍♀️

I'm a bit jealous of those of you having growth scans - I'd love to see her again but midwife seems very happy and not keen to bother. I do appreciate that is a good thing though!

Sorry to hear you've had a few bumps in the road recently @SamoyedFan123. Hope your results are back soon and all is okay. Exciting you've got a date though! How are you feeling?

@tikha congrats on finishing work soon! I've only got 4 working weeks left as well as a week of annual leave in the middle. It's all coming round quite fast!

@ekam that doesn't sound like a good experience - I'm so sorry. I would definitely raise the issue of them speaking in another language in front of you, that is not acceptable. I would echo others and say try not to worry about femur length etc. I think that can all be pretty inaccurate and if they aren't worried I'm sure it's fine.

@ivfjourney5 sounds like you're having a busy time! I hadn't planned to pursue a Group B strep test. I figure if it was needed they would do it, but I can understand taking the precaution.

@ChicaXS I haven't had the vaccine yet. I am WFH now and seriously minimising social contact indoors. I am seeing people outdoors as the risk is so much lower. The good weather has been helping with that! I'm going to have the jab as soon as I can post-birth. I've gone back and forth about it and can understand the opinions on both sides, but for me I think this is the right decision.

Sorry for the radio silence my end as well, I haven’t checked here for ages but @TheGlitterFairy that is such fantastic news!!! Congratulations!!!! I hope your baby boy is doing well?

@ivfjourney5 I am also measuring big and had a growth scan last week. She’s on the 95th percentile apparently so might have to discuss a caesarean if she goes much past that. Have they said anything similar to you?

@ekam that sounds really awful! I would def say something to your midwife as it doesn’t help the anxiety in what is a nerve wracking time anyway!

@SpyroC sorry to hear you didn’t like NCT. We started two weeks ago and everyone seems really nice but I guess you just never know if it’ll take off or not… have you suggested meeting up in person? You really don’t have long to go now… hope you’re feeling excited. I’m due 25 August - sorry, I have no idea how to update that list!

@MGee123 still running?! My hero! Good for you. I’m trying to walk as much as possible but didn’t want to risk running early on as I had so much bleeding (only stopped at 27 weeks) and I didn’t dare start so late on. I miss it so much though! Bet you look great.

@SamoyedFan123 very best of luck tomorrow!!

@ChicaXS I’ve had the Pfizer jab and will have the second in about 3 weeks. As I had quite a bit of bleeding, I had a few consultant appts and he was adamant I should get it. Who knows though… you should do what feels right for you and you don’t have too long left now anyway.

@MF1981 a boy and a girl is just perfect. Hope you’re not too uncomfortable as I just can’t imagine being pregnant with twins! 🤯 so lucky to have two though.

Hope everyone else is well xx

@BonTon thanks for the good wishes. Annoyingly my baby decided to turn breech last thursday (how on earth he managed it at over 9lb I have no idea, and I didn't feel a thing), so that threw all our plans into chaos. After a super stressful few days I've now managed to get an ECV booked for Tuesday, and if that's successful we'll go straight into the induction after it. If it doesn't work (provided nothing goes wrong 🤞) I'll be coming home again and waiting for natural labour and a breech delivery 😳

@SamoyedFan123 so sorry to hear this! But at least you will see your baby sooner rather then later! Are you happy about the potential of delivering a breech baby? Are you avoiding c sec?

I am in a similar situation- baby is breech and measuring large. I am hoping he moves head down by 37 weeks but that a little over 2 weeks now. I found this out all privately so my midwife care are not aware yet (they literally were wrong in all their observations.) I really don’t want a c section but wouldn’t want to deliver a breech baby !

@BonTon good to hear from you!

I decided to wait for the covid jabs, I know a few people now that have had some really bad reactions so not risking it. Not long left now and I am WFH and getting my OH to be extra careful now when he leaves the house.

On another note I am severely suffering from heartburn and vomiting. Pretty normal for breech babies I guess as he is pressing against my stomach and there is no room. It’s made me seriously miserable that every time I eat I vomit pretty much!

@ChicaXS my baby was beach until 33 weeks then turned head down. He stayed there until 37.5 weeks and then went breech again! Am avoiding a section unless an emergency makes one absolutely necessary. Had an extremely traumatic one 2 years ago that I still haven't come to terms with and have no desire to repeat the experience, and particularly the aftermath with twin toddlers to look after this time. Having discussed breech births with my consultant I am far less scared of a breech delivery than I am of a c section at this point. My baby is Frank (extended) breech which is the best kind to deliver apparently so there's a good chance of it being fine. Women gave birth to breech babies all the time before there were ultrasounds 😊

I hope your baby turns in time - most do apparently. You can always try an ECV if not though. In pretty sure mine has gone transverse again tonight - it's extremely uncomfortable.. Hopefully that's a sign that he's trying to turn back around 🤞

Hi everyone, hope you're all doing well. And thank you for the words of encouragement.

@SpyroC hope the back pain is easing off x. When will you be off work?

@Leala20 thank you so much. I've been doing spinning babies exercises yes, so hopefully that'll help.

@ChicaXS I've decided to wait until baby comes to have the jab too. I figured with working from home the risk is low. Although latest increase in numbers do worry me a little. Mine was transverse the whole way through too until it decided to go breech - seems like they moved again but we don't know for sure so I'm waiting for a scan to confirm. Sorry about the vomit ... that doesn't sound pleasant at all. Hopefully you feel better soon and somehow baby flip around

@MGee123 hope you're enjoying the NCT classes. We decided to just go with the free ones offered by the hospital as NCT in our area is online still and I didn't think i'll get the benefit of hanging out with other mums with an online course.

@BonTon thank you for the good wishes. Hope all is well with you

@SamoyedFan123 hope all is well. How did it go with ECV?

I've been doing Spinning babies and could feel lots of movements after a few days. Then I was so sure baby turned transverse again. Just came back from seeing the midwife - she was so sure that baby head is now lower but not quite head down, so obligue still. I've been sent for an urgent scan - hopefully that will happen in a few days. I'll be full term in a few days so they want to ensure ECV to happen asap if need to. Although I'm not totally convinced I want ECV. If baby is still not head down (or breech) I'll continue with the exercise. I'm also ok with delivering a breech baby unless they are foot first. I was born breech (although mum was lucky because I came out en caul so it didn't really matter which end came out first hahah) so I'm convinced that breech birth isn't as dangerous as most make it out to be (and also based on the studies and how the came about).

@ekam sounds like you had a similar thought process to mine re. breech birth. If it helps I arrived for my ECV today to find that my little monkey had turned head down again so i didn't need it! I'm 38 + 3 now so there's still hope yours will do the same.

I've had a sweep and my first pessary inserted so now installed on the induction ward and settling down to wait. I think it might be a while though.

@ekam sorry to hear!!!!! I am in the exact same position though I’m 5 weeks before you (I’m only 35 weeks) . The three options for us are not great at all - ecv, c sec and vaginal breech birth.

I’ll find out next week this little bubba is still breach and if so, the consultant will give us these options. For me the ecv doesn’t seem very natural and even though it’s safe I don’t want my baby being distressed by being forced to move. I know its been well practised but there’s something so unnatural about it. Also there is a chance they will move back as you know this happened to you!

Then there is c sec- after an ivf pregnancy I really don’t fancy my womb getting cut up. I don’t want to try for baby number 2 and the fact that I have to wait and recover and high risks for further ivf pregnancies due to c section is stressing me. Not a fan of any surgery and the recovery scares me. I just want to be there for my baby as soon as I give birth.
I am non the wiser! 🥴

@SamoyedFan123 how was the ECV? Hope it went well!

@chicaXS I didn't need it as when they scanned prior to the procedure baby was head down again! There's still plenty of time for yours to turn too. Is yours frank breech? My consultant was quite positive about vaginal Frank breech births (not so much about footling breech though)

Hi all, gosh I do not know where the time is going. 37w tomorrow here.

@ChicaXS I finish on 17/7 which is super close. But as I'm working from home it's actually a nice distraction. No Covid jab here though I also had a wobble due to it going crazy again. I wanted it after birth but now it's linked to period problems 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ so I'm not sure. Has baby now turned? It does seem like most do. Mine has been head down for a while now but I have my final scan on Wednesday so just hoping she's stayed put! I feel like she is head down.

How did you get on with NCT @MGee123 ?

@BonTon it's been discussed but we're all very close to popping now and half of us are still working. We shall see! Has yours taken off?

@ekam back pain is generally manageable I try to go on little walks during the day if I can. I'm working up to 17/7 any luck with spinning baby?

@SamoyedFan123 I'm glad the ecv was not required and I'm hoping you are all well and that baby is now safely delivered. Xx

@TheGlitterFairy I hope you are all settling well and are recovering nicely. 💗 xx

I pushed back a bit on my induction being booked this week. The consultant went through the risks & benefits and I explained I felt the risks outweighed the benefits. To my surprise, she agreed and said this seemed sensible. So currently I am not booked in for induction but will review this next week following on from scan & midwife appointment. Like you @ChicaXS I am keen to avoid a section if possible and 40% of inductions at 39w lead to a section.

Updated for you @BonTon x

@spyroC 26.07 💗
@TheGlitterFairy 25.07 💚 arrived 15.06 💙🥰
@ChicaXS 04.08 💙
@SamoyedFan123 💙 induction on 28/06
@BonTon 25.08
@ivfjourney5 15.08 💗
@MGee123 11.08 💗
@ekam 23.07 💚
@MF1981 10.10/20.09💙💗
@tikha 20 weeks 💗
@sazzt 25.08 💗
@Leala20** 25 weeks💗

Oh wow it seems like my email alerts for this thread must have stopped and now there is loads to catch up on!

Interesting to read about others' keenness to avoid csection - this has been playing on my mind too since I read about the impact it can have on chances of success for future ivf. Even though the impact seems quite small, given the odds with ivf are low to begin with then I am keen to to reduce them any further if at all possible!

I'm in the potentially big baby club too - currently 32 weeks but bump measuring several weeks ahead. The growth is even though so I've not been referred for a scan. Have agreed with midwife that we will keep a close watch and make decisions as I get further along. I want my care to stay midwife-led as long as possibly, and ideally be able to go to the birthing centre rather than labour ward. There's no indications of any complications, just a large bump. Maybe baby is just tall. Or maybe I should lay off the biscuits 🙈😂

@SpyroC sorry I missed it but why are you being advised with an induction? I am glad you can push back but is there a medical reason? I’d rather an induction (later then 39weeks if necessary!) then a c sec. @sazzt your exactly right about the ivf chances. Scar tissue for future ivf FETs or treatment will damage our chances. We still have one in the freezer so I really wanted to try in 18 months or so due to my age and I don’t want the c sec because of this plus the recovery and risks involved.

Sadly baby is still breech. It’s becoming quite distressing now as I am having severe vomiting due to his head constantly on my stomach and mental anxiety of an impending c section. I’m too scared for to a vaginal breech birth and ecv is unnatural and chances are only 50%….. I have my 36 appt on Tuesday and if he still breech then they’ll scan and get me a consultant appt on the next steps.
Coupled with the above I have group b strep which is stressing me out even more.

My last day at work is the 23rd but I may leave earlier if they do push for a c sec as I want a week to prepare!

Regarding covid jabs - I didn’t hear about the period issues? Do you have a link? I was more second guessing whether to take during breastfeeding or not as there’s not much data either?
@SamoyedFan123 I hope everything is ok?

@ekam how is your baby doing? Still breech??

@sazzt my baby was measuring just below the 90th centile at 35w and previously she has been around the 50th. They are not worried as it's all in the femur and we are both tall. Apparently it's normal for them to take on our characteristics about that time. I did agree to another pointless GDT just to be sure (didn't think for a minute I'd have it and of course I didn't)

@ChicaXS they said they wanted to induce me at 39w from the start as I have low Papp a. HOWEVER it's 0.01 below normal and everything has been fine. The data and opinions on induction for low Papp a are mixed. Their is a link to the placenta failing early however, at my level this is an extremely small increased risk. The risks of induction and the probable cascade of interventions are greater. I have had a few episodes of reduced movements (everything has been fine,she still
Manages to curl up behind my placenta!) and this does cause me some anxiety so I may agree to induction at around 40w. Hardly any trusts seem to induce for low Papp a before 40 weeks,many say 41 and many not at all. Furthermore, I wouldn't even be considered as having low Papp a in the first place in some trusts. Don't get me wrong if they tell me they think I'm putting my baby at risk I will agree to induction (I'm not brave enough to go against their advice) but they are in agreement at the moment.

I'm so sorry that you are still having breech worries. I have everything crossed for you that she turns. Although, I want to avoid a section, of something like this happens I'll make peace with it. It's a shame with breech as in the past breech births were considered normal, apparently it's more a case of midwives becoming de skilled that causes the concerns rather than the breech itself. It's sucks that even at this stage infertility is making our choices more complex. I was looking forward to having my Covid jab and was going to go ahead whilst BF and then this period thing! Wouldn't bother me if I didn't want to try again. The story came out a few weeks back. It's been reported through the yellow card system over 4000 times. That coupled with my knowledge of endometrial cells ( I was an expert on endometriosis before egg health) rang alarm bells, it's given evidence to my concerns. I'm seriously hoping further research suggests otherwise. I'm sick of being scared of Covid all the time. I'll try to find a link for you. X