The Graduates of TTC after pregnancy loss thread#5 - 🐧 The Penguin Huddle 🐧

[InDreamland]

This is a safe space and supportive thread for anyone who is pregnant following a loss. We all understand the worry and anxiety that can come from being pregnant again following miscarriage/stillbirth.

Please feel free to join, even if you were not on the TTC thread.

Starting the roll call copied from the last thread (please feel free to add your name or amend if due dates have changed following 12 week scans or booking in c-secs):

@Melpops36, 38, EDD 5/12/19
@Beaglemum93, 26, EDD 22/12/19
@Amanda81, 38, EDD 27/12/19
@MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue, 37, EDD 03/01/20
@Laney79, 40, EDD 06/01/20
@Bluebelltulip, 29, EDD 09/01/20
@KnitKitty, 31, EDD 29/01/20
@Newbie21, 38, EDD 06/02/20
@InDreamland, 39, EDD 18/02/20
@Tina363,29, EDD 26/02/20
@Frillyfarmer, 29, EDD 28/02/20
@Squiff70, 37, EDD end of February (no exact date with twins)
@Strawberry, 28, EDD 08/03/20
@Ginmonkey84, 34, EDD 16/03/20
@DuvetCaterpillar, 34, EDD 27/03/2020
@Navy123, 29, EDD 10/04/20
@Janey15, 34, EDD 16/04/20
@TinyPaws, 22, EDD 19/04/20
@Flyfisherlady, 37, Edd 24/04/20
@FirstTimeMama91, 28, EDD 06/05/2020

Also tagging @boboelephant and @Yukka just to hope they can pop on and update on their rainbows.

Sorry to anyone I've missed 🐧

@Rubyroost can they nap in the carrycot that comes with the pram during the day? Was wondering about what to do for daytime naps. Thanks again!

Yeah, I guess they can. I think I found things without sides easier so as not to wake baby and could just stick him straight on play mat or sometimes I'd stick him on the sofa. Some babies are great mappers, but mine had a sixth sense and if you weren't quick or careful enough his eyes would ping open as soon as he left the warmth of my body 😂

Oops... Pressed 'post' before I was ready...

@SunshineCrocodile I am so very, very sorry. Sending huge cuddles your way.

*@InDreamland I'm starting maternity leave at 36 and a bit weeks... I know I'll be having Baby at 38 weeks so thought it'd give me some prep time and I know I'll be really ready to finish work by then (would do it now if I could afford it!!!) But that means once I get to 24th December I'll only have about 4 full days of work left before my maternity leave with bank holidays and annual leave in the mix, so I'm focusing on Christmas as my respite zone... Does seem more do-able getting to Christmas.
I think if I were you I would take some annual leave before you reach 39 weeks as you're likely to be exhausted by then and really ready to put your feet up (also I think the majority of women give birth in week 39, not 40, so you really could pop at any time). I understand not wanting to take too much time off before baby getting here because you'll want as much time with them as possible when they arrive; and I imagine work is a good distraction from anxieties as well, but do make sure you're looking after yourself properly.
I'm glad you got checked when you were worried about movements. I think they do it for laughs you know. When I had my mad dash to the MW at 22 weeks I started feeling baby move again almost as soon as I left the appointment.
I'm not sure if it's because I'm under consultant led care and having growth scans, but I've never once had my bump measured yet? So I'm guessing it's not a vital check, or can be an inaccurate way of measuring things? I imagine there are a lot of reasons why your bump might be smaller from one week to the next... Position of the baby comes to mind.

@MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue I'm hoping to do some batch-cooking too.
I'm planning on hospital-bag shopping next weekend. I was going to do it yesterday but couldn't get to any shops because of flooding. I know I'm only 28 weeks, but since I've been told I'm higher risk for premature birth I feel like it's probably wise to have it ready just in case.
I'm sorry, what was the older lady in the street thinking???? Am I allowed to have found your reaction to her rather amusing, though? I think you reacted in the right way. What the actual F!?!?!?! Who does that???
Aww, bless you with having a melt-down after being told you're beautiful. I had a bit of a melt-down last night because I spilt water EVERYWHERE and was really worried that I'd scared the cat... OH had to clean it all up for me and then had to reassure me that the cat was fine. Haha!

@strawberrye I could have written what you wrote to sadtoday21 about feeling movements myself... I definitely know where the placenta is and up until well after 24 weeks all the movements I felt were like muscle twitches and jabs. In fact I've only really felt these 'flutters' that people always mention in the last week... And yes, I get jabs on my cervix sometimes too... One night it felt like she was tap-dancing on it and I had to keep moving to try and get her to stop.

@sadtoday21 I'm so glad that the hospital took your complaint seriously. Well done you. I'm glad the scan went well.
We don't plan on getting a cot yet... We've just bought a next-to-me crib for now (on sale) as baby will be sleeping in that for the first 6 months.
We've bought a brand-new car seat (Joie i-level for £200), but we've made sure what pram/travel system it's compatible with and are going to source that second-hand. Looks like we've found the pram for £30 and will get the carry-cot too which is around £100 full-price... Well see whether we get it new or second hand. If second hand will probably want a new mattress for it anyway...
I think when we get round to buying an actual cot we might look for a second-hand one and get a new mattress for it. They don't advise previously used mattresses or car-seats for safety reasons, but really you don't need to get everything brand new.

@Kayjay2018 what lovely scan pictures. Congrats!

@Beaglemum93 really glad the growth scan went well and baby is looking healthy.

@Frillyfarmer I am disgusted about your promotion being pulled on your behalf. What t**ts!!! Urgh. So sorry hun.

@Squiff70 I am so pleased you got past your personal milestone and are feeling the babies wriggling. Stay strong mummy!!! What beautiful scan pictures!
Time seems to be going slowly and fast at the same time if that's at all possible...

@Rubyroost so lovely to see you back on the thread! (and your apology about 'flouncing off like a spoilt brat' made me chuckle! Haha)
What a saga with the tooth stuff!!! Really sorry you've had to go through that stress. Hope it's settled down now?

@Notnowokay I'm pleased you got some comfort from DH mentioning DS2 in front of family. Men can be really hard to read sometimes and it's easy to think that they just put stuff out of their mind or don't care, but I think they just process stuff in a different way sometimes.

@Ladybug84 how are you doing? I had a similar experience when I got my BFP with this pregnancy... I was happy for about 12 hours and then it turned to sheer panic and anxiety. But I got through it in one piece!

@RedRobin7 Lovely to have you on the thread. You've been there for me from the very beginning when we were both going through our first MCs together so I am really hopeful that we both have our rainbows now. How are things?

@TwittleBee Wow! That's incredible news about the growth. I'm really sorry you've had another bleed though. How scary. It could be your cervix, as others have said.

@Lozzak87 Nice to see you. It's perfectly normal not to feel movements yet at 17 weeks (or to be mistaking them for other things). Really lovely that you got to record the HB for OH to listen to.

@Dimblebimble Well done for biting the bullet and telling work. I also feel clingy to OH during my pregnancy... He's putting up with it rather well.
As for maternity leave, I'm finding it a sore-point to talk about as I only get SMP and am feeling emotional about it atm. (I have literally done spreadsheets to budget what we can afford etc and we will be okay, but I really wish I could rely on more money coming in and being able to take longer off work). I may have to just take the 39 weeks due to finances (although might be a bit longer than that as I'll accumulate annual leave too). Work are expecting me off for a year... I'll just have to reevaluate in a few months and see how things go.
Who knows... I might be ready to go back anyway. I'm considering going back part-time; but again, I will have to look at the logistics in a few months' time.
OH and I currently split our bills almost equally; although he earns a bit more than me so takes on a little bit more than I do. But when I'm on maternity I won't be able to pay 'my share'. We're not married, but we are a very strong family unit and we've just bought a house together. We're looking at getting a joint account that our bills go out of (but will still be keeping separate accounts too).
I honestly find the financial stuff and logistics the most daunting thing about preparing for when baby comes. There's so much to think about! You have a lot of time to plan and prepare still though. You'll find what's best for you.

@UnicornsandRainbows1 I didn't realise you were moving to a different country!!! Wow! best of luck!

Very envious of you starting Mat leave soon... I've just had a week off work and it's been blissful. Really don't feel like going back. But the end is in sight!
Best of luck with the move!

@janey15, sorry, just read through the rest of the thread and saw your post from yesterday about the telephone message RE appointment. Did you manage to find out when/where it is?
I think the anxiety is probably a vicious circle... Not sleeping well, so anxiety increases, and then because of increased anxiety you don't sleep well. Try some mindful breathing exercises, maybe a bath if you're comfortable having one and get a few positive mantras going in your head.

@Bluebelltulip I'm sorry you had to go through everything again with the new MW. They really should take more care about looking through the notes first.

@Irishgene Welcome. Really sorry for your loss. I hope this is your rainbow. The first few weeks can be really rough, but it's good to have some support.

@Elles1980 Welcome. Sorry you've had such a horrendous time. I really hope things go smoothly for you this time round!

@coconutlatte44 I have heard nausea and vomiting in 3rd trimester is normal. If you need reassurance please ring your midwife. They are there for reassurance. I've had a couple of moments of slight nausea (not helped my the heart burn), but nothing too bad so far.

@MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue Yes it was very stressful for a few hours as we were just waiting to find out if the flood defences were going to be breached or not. Not sure what we would have done if we were evacuated to be honest... All of the roads out of town were closed due to flooding! Luckily it didn't come to that though.

@Beaglemum93 That's a fantastic milestone to reach!!! Hopefully baby will cook for a bit longer, but it is nice having that statistical reassurance, isn't it?

@coconutlatte44 Thank you! It baffles me how anyone affords anything in London... Hopefully you will make it happen when the time is right.

@sadtoday21 We're not going to do up a nursery just yet as baby will be sleeping in our room anyway to begin with. I'm not sure about 'nursery furniture' in general to be honest. I think it looks lovely and is probably very practical for the first year or so... But I think we're just planning on using changing mats rather than a changing station and buying furniture the baby can grow with so we don't have to re-do the room again too soon. If we had more money I'd be all over it; making it pretty and practical for baby, but there are other priorities right now. The nesting instincts are difficult when you can't do exactly what you want, aren't they?
Sorry you're under the weather. Plenty of rest and lot of fluids. Garlic is a good natural 'antibiotic'.

@Coconutlatte44 I've had more nausea again recently too.

@sadtoday21 I had a Joie travel system and an out and about nipper which have been great and not cost a fortune. The cot we got DD was less than £100 from Tesco direct but that doesn't exist anymore. Have a look around and compare things, generally you don't need to spend lots. I used the carry cot during the day.

@MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue it's natural to worry about how your DD will be. Mine seems to be getting excited but I don't think she realises what it's going to be like and obviously she's been through it before and DD2 didn't come home so I think it could be a shock to have a baby here.

A few weeks ago I saw a Moses basket in a charity shop and it made my heart sink and I could hardly stop the tears. At the hospital after DD2 was born they put her in a Moses basket with a lovely blanket, it was nice that she was in something comfortable but seeing another basket upset me. Our plan was to reuse DD1's Moses basket for this baby but when DH got it out of the attic I got really upset again. I'm now thinking I may need an alternative but not sure what, has anyone else used any of the side sleepers?

@Knitkitty you sound very busy atm, I'm glad you didn't need evacuating. Good luck with the house move.

Sorry ladies, just a quick one from me for now. That was an EPIC post @KnitKitty! So glad you were safe from the floods and that your little one is doing well.

Welcome to those who're new to the thread - I'm sorry you've been through such traumatic things but wish you very happy and healthy pregnanices.

We have another scan this coming Tuesday with the consultant. It's only 2 weeks since our anomaly scan but because of our past loss and because we're having twins we're having fortnightly scans now - it's both a blessing and a curse as I'm an anxious wreck beforehand! I'm sure most if not all of you can relate!

Take care. I do keep checking in so even if I'm not posting, I am reading. Life got very busy recently!

@Bluebelltulip I know what you mean. My son and daughter were placed in a specific kind of basket in the Chapel of Rest (I won't describe it for obvious reasons) and I can't bare to see similar baskets now. Our babies will be sleeping in the pram carrycots during the day and put in a Chicco Next2Me at night next to our bed for the first few months. That's the plan anyway. Most babies don't fit in the classic Moses baskets for long so we figured they weren't the right 'day beds' for us.

@Squiff70 thank you for your post, sorry if mine upset you. DD1 only used the Moses basket for 3 months as she rolled over so after something that will hopefully last a bit longer. Good luck for your scan Tuesday. I've got my next one tomorrow, I'm on 2 weekly scans as well but it's been 4 weeks this time as I had to cancel the last one and the doctor has been away.

@Bluebelltulip I'll have to admit I didn't use a moses basket or a side sleeper. When I was b feeding mine he would feed shit himself and then I'd have to change him and so he'd wake again and then he'd stay awake for about two hours whilst I watched catch up on TV then he'd feed and shot himself again. It got so hard repeatedly lifting him in and out of moses basket and he'd wake of course so he slept on the other side of the bed sans pillow and my boyfriend slept on the sofa. We did this until about 3 months and then put him in his big cot. So I will just be getting another cot as my little one will still be using his and eventually his turns into a bed.

Meant on my laptop, not TV. Used to watch it from about 2 til 4 when little one was awake. 😂

Love how everyone on here is a bargain hunter!! I really don't get spending loads on baby stuff. Or kids for that matter - I get loads of DD's toys from charity shops! The only thing I would say is don't buy second hand car seats or mattresses.

I never bothered with a Moses basket. I did (and still do) have a Sleepyhead and just used to bring that down stairs for naps. I know they are controversial and tbh I rarely used mine at night time as I started co-sleeping really early. I found it easier when breastfeeding to lie down and followed guidelines. Again I know co sleeping is not for everyone. I did it until DD was 2 and she still ends up in our bed most nights!! Whatever is the less stress and the most sleep is my moto! Anyway, I also let DD sleep on me a lot in the day and found that and the Sleepyhead was enough. I think babies outgrow Moses baskets quite quickly anyway??? Second having a play mat and also some sort of chair (either bouncy or vibrating).

My DD is three in two weeks @Rubyroost! She gets the idea of a baby and sings to Little Brother in my tummy and talks about how he can have her old toys. But then she will get upset because she doesn't want to "share my mummy!" She said the other day that Little Brother could have Daddy instead! She's a big mummy's girl so this worries me. I have visions of my poor DH ending up in the spare room and me in bed with the baby and DD! 😳

@Beaglemum93 and @coconutlatte44, I know what you mean! DH and I were looking at pictures and photos of 32 week babies in and out of the womb last night - it's mad that that is inside of me!! Weird and just so wonderful.

Not long now @Melpops36!!! So exciting!!!

@KnitKitty I wish I had had a better response but I was stunned! There was definitely no "when are you" just "are you due? WTF?!?? My hospital bag is currently an old changing bag. It has all my bits in and some nappies but I need to wash some baby clothes before I pack some. Glad you have avoided the floods and I hope the weather stays dry so there is no further threat. That is not what we need when pregnant and stressed already!!

I didn't have a Moses basket with my first but I've decided to get one this time. We have two large dogs and a toddler so Moses basket up high on a table/worktop is definitely the safest bet for downstairs in our house this time round. With DS he was more or less surgically attached to me by sling for the first few months so it might be a waste of time but I'm hoping to pick a Moses basket up for less than £30!

@KnitKitty I'm hoping my midwife will contact me about it tomorrow.
I may well have adhesions. I had surgery in 2012 and know they only left some on the left hand ligament but pain has gradually increased over the last few years. Also the fertility clinic always had trouble locating my left ovary so I assumed it was stuck somewhere again 🙈 They fertility consultant said that it has made my nerves over sensitised to interpret everything as pain in the area.
I'm not worried that the pain is a sign of anything being wrong overall but it is worrying to be in pain most days if you see what I mean? When it happens or I suddenly realise something hurts I get a moment of panic

@frillyfarmer if you can wait it out Aldi's baby special buys normally have Moses baskets for around £30...that's where mine is from!

We're in the very weird situation of having savings sat in the bank assuming this baby arrives and we don't need to pay for ivf! But we do need a new car and want to move house as soon as we are able so I'm really not sure how much we'll spend on baby stuff. I think we're going to look at prams etc in Mothercare after our scan at the end of November assuming it's still open, then we're staying away at the beginning of December to see a show so might drive to the next city to look in John Lewis the day after. I'd like to choose the set I want then see what comes up second hand but it's hard when everything is so far away!
I'm really wondering how I'm going to hide this bump at work for the next 2 and a half weeks! It's really quite obvious especially after lunch!

Morning all, how was all your weekends?

Thank you for your messages. My MW told me to rest and monitor and that Monday would be the soonest. I didnt get anymore bleeding yesterday and none today though! I guess what I am worried about, is not so much this must mean a MC but more about how my Dr last time said that it was my on/off bleeding that could have caused PPROM as blood irritates the cervix and the amniotic sac and so can create waters to break. But then she also said it could be just how my body labours, that it starts bleeding because it is getting everything ready and if mt waters went at 36 weeks with Ds1 and then 28 weeks with Ds2 was does this mean for this baby? Sorry for rant, I'll ask Dr and Mw today.

@coconutlatte44 thank you for that article, still makes me nervous though because of the above reasons. Shall find out what the medical advice is for me from Dr today though I guess. Thank you for answering about the other running questions, I have just had so much negativity about it and I guess this is now why i feel shit about the bleeding too - like it must be my fault because everyone said this would happen. Also regarding vomiting in 3rd trimester - yes, always bloody comes back I swear! Hope you shift that cold soon.

Btw, welcome to the group @Irishgene and @Elles1980 - I am sorry you find yourself in this group due to previous losses but a gentle congratulations for your current pregnancy. Hope all goes smoothly for you both this time.

@sadtoday21 honestly just get the 2nd hand - they sell dirt cheap like new! There will be loads on your Fb selling pages at silly low prices because people just cant shift them. We go a Maxi Cosi pram set for £30! I tried shifting our Silvercross Pioneer (It is great for the carrycot part but I dont like the pushchair style, feels too bulky and hard to steer like that) but highest I have been offered has been £100 and it is like new so I cannot part with it because it was £850 as we bought the stupid John Lewis exclusive one. Will probably using it for this one as we accidentally trashed our Maxi Cosi one on holiday when trying to get it to the beach down some steps (With Ds in it!!!).

@KnitKitty - relieved all is okay with your baby girl but blimey what a week you are having with the flood and what a week ahead too! Hope all goes well and you stay safe.

@Rubyroost if you have a big next by you then their boxing day sales are insane, I always wait until then to buy a load of nice clothes of us all and homeware too. They seem to whack out loads of last summer's stock too! I like to go into my local Next in lead up to Xmas and scout out what I like haha.

@Squiff70 I hope it is a good busy! And yes can totally relate about that anxiety before any scan. Good luck for tomorrow.

On the moses basket chat - DS was only in it for 2.5 months before he out grew it - the long boy he was (still is!) but we got a crib for DD (although she never had the chance to use it and neither did DS2) and it was much longer and my friend (who sold it to us) reckoned her son managed to stay in it until he was 7 months before they moved him into his own room. So I think we will get a crib again rather than a moses basket. As for down stairs sleeping - I usually just use either a baby box, the play mat on the floor, the pram or I would take DS1 back upstairs and have a sleep with him haha.

Sorry for the weekend absence again ladies, it's been so busy, I just don't have time to rest or relax. Bit worried about over doing it later in pregnancy. Glad though that Bubsy seems to be moving and kicking a decent amount although I tend to only really notice if I'm sat down. 25+6 today and I'm so desperate for this one to be okay. It's going to be a long 14 weeks ...........SIL and her kids are excited so now I'm more worried about something going wrong. Booked GTT for 27+1 so that have results for 28 week midwife appointment.

Welcome to our new members! Wishing you all a happy and healthy pregnancy!

@janey15 hope you start to feel kicks soon, don't forget it's still early for you but also you may have felt movements but mistaken them for something else. It's so natural to worry, hopefully once you start getting regular movements you'll start to feel less anxious. Great news though that you've popped now, enjoy your bump!

@sadtoday21 yes I'd say I've been feeling very obvious movements (kicking and rolling) since 23 weeks but before then I wasn't sure if they were movements or not, in hindsight what I thought was gas moving since around 18 weeks must have been the start of feeling some movement but hard to tell when this is my first to get this far.

@Notnowokay common sense really should take over.

@Bluebelltulip how are you today? Hope you're not too anxious. I'm sure this little one will be absolutely fine and healthy and history will not repeat.

@TwittleBee how are you? So sorry you've had bleeding, hopefully it was just the run that aggravated it. I had brown blood on wiping up to 7 or 8 weeks with this pregnancy so think that it was my gym sessions that caused it.

@coconutlatte44 sorry you're feeling under the weather. Not in 3rd tri yet but also have a cold and it's really phlegmmy so I've been wretching/gagging a lot. Hope you feel better soon.

@Rubyroost love your style! Hope the wine was good!

@MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue awww I bet you do look beautiful! I do know that feeling of not feeling attractive at the moment though. I just feel fat! Like a blob.

@KnitKitty I've had a bit of acid reflux too the past week, it's gross! So exciting that you're moving house, it'll be so special having your first family home!

@Beaglemum93 I can't believe you're so close now, really not long to go! Eeeaaakkkkk!

Joining in on the chat about buying baby stuff ............such a shame about Mothercare. I don't know whether to go sooner than planned to check out car seats in case there's a bargain to be had .......but I'm too scared still to jinx it. I didn't want to get any baby stuff or start looking until beginning of December and then start ordering things like car seat until new year. Plus SIL told DH she has loads of baby stuff so not to buy but I still need to know what we would like just in case what she has isn't everything we'll need or maybe after 3 babies some stuff needs replacing or even that the pram isn't right for us. I am too scared to go to a baby shop/department. Was planning when we did start to do Mothercare and John Lewis for advice and test things out, then look online once we had ideas. I read Britax do really safe good car seats, hoping to get one that is suitable from newborn all the way up to 4 years old. I don't want one of those seats that clips onto a pram chassis as I'm lazy and will be no good for baby if I'm tempted to keep using that rather than put them in a proper lie flat pram.

@InDreamland how very dare you not appear over the weekend! 😂 I'm usually on here as do a bit of Internet surfing whilst the boy naps.
I bought all my stuff very late. Baby was due December and brought my big items such as travel system, moses basket (which sat in my bedroom unused when the lil one was finally born) and cot in December. I got the minimum clothes I needed and then everything else was bought after. I also wouldn't have it in the house and stored elsewhere. So I do understand your logic, or should I say lack of it 😂😂

@InDreamland those seats that clip into the pram chassis are handy tho, not necessarily for using in the pram but for taking baby into the doctors or into restaurants/cafes etc when they're little. I would just lift baby out if car and cary the seat and the baby in wherever I was going.

Scan went well today, heart rate is normal and growth has picked up a bit. Feeling tired and emotional this evening. Spoke to consultant about current birth plans and she is suggesting a sweep at 38 weeks and induction at 39 if it doesn't work.

@Rubyroost lol, thanks. I just can't bring myself to buy stuff yet still. I don't even want to pick up the Bounty pack yet! Still seems too soon even though 14 weeks to go which looking at it doesn't sound long but actually feels like a lifetime away. Good to know I'm not the only one thinking of buying last minute. Good advice on the car seat. Thing is knowing what we do and places we go etc. in the car, wherever we take car is generally always then spending quite a bit of time out so baby would need to be in proper pram anyway. The kind of places we would go to like doctor or restaurants/cafes we tend to walk to locally so would be using pram again.

@Bluebelltulip glad all went well with scan and growth is healthy. How do you feel about sweep and possible induction? Hope you get some rest this evening!

@InDreamland I haven't been able to bring myself to buy anything for the baby yet either. Although today I did buy a changing table from a neighbour for 10 pounds, so I guess that counts! Seemed to good to be true to get it that cheaply. Otherwise, will wait for the big things as long as possible, but realistically need to save money and go for black friday sales. I'll only be 25 weeks then, but not sure what else to do. We aren't planning on buying more than the minimum.

But, I do have a midwife appointment tomorrow and will buy my baby boy his first stuffed rabbit if that goes well. Hope to hear a strong hb and that all is well. I think he's squirming around tonight, cannot wait to feel stronger kicks, feels like I've been waiting forever and ever with this pregnancy and also like I've been pregnant forever (its actually been a whole year of pregnancy now and no drinks at xmas two years in a row). Please let this baby be my rainbow!

Evening all, the scan went so well - cannot believe how much detail we saw, saw the head so clearly and the heart etc. So much has changed in scanning in a year it seems? I didnt even have a very full bladder! I've been told no more running, certainly no half marathon and to take it easy. Been told I can do mild exercise but if any more bleeding then to stop straight away. Wonder when I will have my cervix checked out? I didnt think about asking when that referral app will be.

@InDreamland - I swear MN is always quieter over the weekend as everyone is much busier! Really hope this next 14 weeks past easy for you! GL for the the GTT. I get you about buying stuff, we wont be buying anything major for this baby - in a lucky position that we have family and friends who have already said that they will either buy for us or give us their second hand pieces and keep it all at their's so we do not have to face that horrible scenario of unused baby pieces again.

@Bluebelltulip - Glad all went well today with scan for baby. How has it left you feeling after talking through birth plans?

@sadtoday21 - keeping my FX for you that this will be your rainbow baby !