Due October 2007 ~Piggies into Porkers~

[muppetgirl]

Have I started a new thread?

No, sorry! That's where I know something's not quite right. I rememebr thinking 'thank god that's over with'

I know that sounds really awful but when i was alone with him after dh had been sent home i remeber wanting him to be taken away.

Now I would happily kill anyone who hurt him but at the time it wasn't what i'd hoped it would be.

This time though I am more attatched to 'Henry' already than I ever was with Olver so that's a good start

I have just re-read that last post of mine and think I sound awful but bonding didn't happen for months with Ollie and me and I actually think the feeling was mutual! He seemed so P*ed off with me and dh. Baby signing helped as we were able to communicate and this really eased his frustration.

I know things have changed as recently dh asked me not to come to an appointment at Oliver's nursery to chat about some problems we had as he said I was getting 'too emotional' over the situation and Oliver :0

I did too Floria. Although some of it wouldn't be for me she had had exactly the experience she wanted and it made his birth really special for her.

I think it's really important to some people to be able to have an element of control in the birth of their children particularly when that is largely taken away (for example having an emergency section). For me how they arrive is a lot less important than what happens immediately after and also that they're healthy. So I don't think I would ever have the desire to go so far to get my docs to agree to such an unconventional birth plan. But I think it's great that she was able to do so. And without any of the 'its my right' doctor bashing that often seems to accompany people doing anything unconventional - it just goes to show that you can get people to agree to something they are unfamiliar with by doing your research properly and discussing the options in a rational manner and understanding why there might be some resistance to something unconventional.

Sorry to witter on so! Just like to add that I'm sure in some situations people aren't anywhere near as reasonable as her team of docs / midwives were and thats probably why there is so much of the 'its my right' doctor bashing!!!!

Muppet I don't think there's anything wrong wih you being so brave as to admit you had problems bonding with your son. Think it happens to lots of people but because it's not what you are 'supposed' to feel and everyone assumes you must be delighted its a very hard thing to admit.

I was lucky in that I didn't feel like you but I know dh did. It took him several months before he really bonded and fell in love with his little boy

Thanks, I do feel a little crap when I tell people what happened. I think it's amazing when it does happen though the tingling I get in my chest when I see him through the window at nursery when he's sat listening to a story is just the best feeling ever. I want to turn to the other parents and say 'that's my son that is...and he's fab!'

The first time he said 'I love you' was the best moment in my life so far....

also, on a strange note, I love taking him to get his feet measured!?!? He looks soo grown up looking at his own feet...

ds loves getting his shoes put on! ONe of the first things he does in the morning is go and pick his shoes up!

Absolutely with you on it being an amazing feeling when you pick them up from nursery. Not had the i love you moment yet though - he is only 17 months - but looking forward to it!

We also talk a lot about ' we look after each other in our family' and 'we love each other and take care of each other' and it tickles me pink when he says this back to me...

We really have conversations now and before bed we always have a 'tell me about your day' I tell him about mine and he tells me about his (if he's been to nursery) and since dh has gone back to work he's away at bedtime so Oliver rings daddy and tells him about his day.

I'm lucky as I do know some friends who are finding this bit 2-3 toddler phase really difficult but we're okay atm. Maybe we're just not a baby family

My son does that too, its the first thing he picks up in the morning, he comes in shouting shoes shoes, oh that and teeth, thats the second thing he wants to do

Thats really cute. Especially the bit about ringing his daddy to chat about their day!!!!

My ds too - absolutely obsessed by his shoes! And gets ours for us when he wants to go outside...

....he's taken wellies to bed before! And will tell complete strangers about his wellies ('I have wiggly worms and ladybirds on my wellies')

same here

Am busy crotcheing atm, have done 1 1/2 blankets for cotbed and have done 3 hats + matching scarves and will attepmt to knit some cardigans.

...whilst watching supernanny! She's fab

Blimey

I am drooling over Jensen Ackles on Supernatural still

never got into that -is it good?

What are good boxset dvds to watch for when we are too big to move away from the telly?

Muppet; my Mum freely admits that she didnt bond with me for ages...she was shocked at her own lack of feeling...she was a nursery nurse and she LOVED babies! But it was a long and difficult pregnancy followed by a similarly long and difficult birth (6 weeks before expected) at a time when husbands were barred from the delivery room, so she was all alone and when I was born they just said "its a girl" and whisked me away...that was 4pm and she didnt actually see me or touch me until 8am next morning when the matron arrived with me and announced "this baby has arrived at least 6 weeks too soon"!!!! Mum nearly said "what do you want me to do? Put is back?". I was skinny and yellow (too much iron suppliment)had terrible colic and screamed continuously. No wonder she didnt really bond for months! It hasnt stopped us having a great relationship since..oops got to go!

Muppetgirl - yes I enjoy it alot, helps that the totty is top notch though

Thanks floria (I know you've gone but hopefully you'll see it later!)

Am off to pick up ds -and for my 3x weekly fix of 'that's my son, he's fab he is!'

see you all later you lovely ladies

Goodness me so many mesages since i looked last night.
Sorry to hear about the blood and movement scare, and who ever mentioned pain when baby is turning, i totally agree, i think she is swimming around

I picked up my wheelcahir today, but nearly fell out trying to get down a curb

I got a baby swing today that i won on ebay, very happy.

Hope your all well

Oh and me too on the dippy eggs

Lisa

hi lisa
glad you got the wheelchair-shame about falling out!
I've been buying a few things off ebay -pirates for ds1 and clothes for lo. Got some lovely bargains.

Currently watching lazy town with ds on my lap fighting sleep after a busy day at nursery! At least I can look at sportacus' bum!

a poo dance, a poo dance, a poo dance,

He did another poo on the toilet!!!

My life has been leading up to this moment!!

(He did have a slight wee accident in bed this morning but 2/3 'aint bad!)

hi everyone!

havnet read all the posts.

floria,omg!!!what a scare!!glad it was a flase alarm (but not that you had caught a blood vessle!)

inzi the pram is fab isnt it?!its stood in our living room atm,dh wanted to put it together as he didnt believe all the bits were there as the box seemed too small!!so its up and stood in my living room as we have a house full of boxes already and theres nowhere to put it now that its up!(the box off it got used to pack some more of the kids things in!!)i was going to get the carrycot,but ive changed my mind.by the way,have you seen on the mothercare website its now got £10 off?(when i saw it last week it was £109 this weeks its £99.not much but every little helps!!)

cant remeber what bits ive read that everyonesput.got a complete mush fr a brain!!

ejt,hope your spd doesnt get any worse.ive rang the mw again today and she said she'll ring the physio to chase up my appointment.im abit peeved about having to wait this long,but i suppose ive only got myself to blame for not wanting to ring them before now as i didnt want to bother them!!

getting headaches and heartburn every day and its driving me mad!!i get headache and go lay down in a dark room like the mw said,but as soon as i lay down i get heartburn!!

lo is constantly kicking my underneath bits!and half the time im terrified shes going to kick her way out!!(i know its not going to happen but i had a dream she was kicking me there and i started to push and gave birth to a kitten!!and as i started to bf it bit my nipple off!!!god knows what thats all about!!!)shes also spending alot of time kicking my ribs in my right side.at elast i know shes a very active baby and no doubt id be worried sick if she didnt move as much as she is!!!

has anyone else started being sick again?im back to head down the loo every morning.dont know why its started again.thought i had got away with it lightly as all my other pgs have been very bad!

anyway,moan over!!hope your all doing ok!!!

Hi everyone - can't beleive I missed the c-section chat! Can I just ask Alice though, are most surgeons/dr's open to discussions about 'different' section births (electives)would you think or would this be dismissed out of hand as something a bit too left field?? Just interesting for me as mine will prb be elective and I'd love to think it could be more 'natural' than my last emergency one. Not sure about pulling the baby out myself though.....

glad the scares have come to nothing - and good to see people are being honest about bonding. For lots of people it just feels like a myth for those first few months.Esp if the birth has been a bit hairy. so good to know we can all be honest.

and muppet - good dvd box sets I've found are west wing (the best ever), spooks is good and people rave about the sopranos. Haven't seen it myself; desperate housewives is good and friends can always bring a much needed laugh!

What a star! Imagine how excited you'll be when he's wiping his own bum too!!!

I just made my first baby purchase for this LO - a wrap sling. Thought I'd give myself plenty of time to master the tying process! Suddenly afraid you're all going to report bad sling experiences now ! Last time I had a rubbish baby carrier that we just never got on with. This time I'm hoping it will be different...

Crikey - everyone's posting at once - that bum wiping bit was meant for Muppetgirl in case it's not obvious !