Due October 2007 ~Piggies into Porkers~

[muppetgirl]

Have I started a new thread?

Sorry to crash onto your thread J20BABY please can you read your email thanks

evening everyone; there is no way I can remember all of this! But I would just say to whoever is compiling a shopping list (desinerbaby??)- and apologies if someone has already said this and I've missed it - get someone to get you a savoy cabbage when the baby is born and keep it in the fridge (lasts ages) - there is some oil in the leaves which relieves swelling and pain from breast feeding and it really does work - just pop a leaf around each breast inside your nursing bra (feels ridiculous at first but persevere!) The coldness of it is an amazing relief when they are burning up (esp when your milk comes in) I know it's not as interesting or fun as baby clothes, but it was a lifesaver for me! And if I was shopping again, I wouldn't get half the blankets we did - we used a grobag after a few weeks of swaddling so all the other blankets were redundant.

INzi glad work was ok - and big congratulations for the poo progress (sorry can't remember who that was)

hope everyone else is ok - I'm ok, better than yesterday, when I had extreme emotional breakdown and wondered if I wasn't going mad, but feel a bit better today. Have a good evening everyone.

Whilst on another thread someone posted an organistation called 'Birth Trauma' so I thought I'd have a quick look. I'm a little concerened to find out that you can get post natal post traumatic stress disorder.
I read the symptoms and thought
..that's me.
not sure what to do feel as I know a few of you have real problems and this just seems to be in my head. Any advice?

hi all

i am back from dd school visit. Not sure how i feel really, parents were asked to drop children inot classroom and go straight to hall. No chance to discuss anything with teacher. DD cried as i thought she might. Quite a few chav parents but a few ok looking ones. Everyone seemed to know each other
was also socked to learn that the start forming joined letters straight off rather than basics first!
DD seemed ok when i went to get her, and said she had fun. She has driven me around the bend today. I know its not her fault, she wants to be out doing things not being stuck here with me.
By end of day I was in tears, dh looked shocked and asked if anything he had done, but it wasnt, they just came
I am upstairs on dh laptop, left dh to feed dd and get her to bed. I need sleep.. sorry dont know whats wrong with me, think new hormones have kicked in

Lisa

Cabbage? Really???

Well.. OK - the cost of a Savoy I suspect will be a very small drop in a VERY large ocean of expenditure... which begin's this weekend - why-hey!

ejt - I'm getting seriously worried about this 'not buying nursing bras until 36 weeks' thing - because it implies that my boobs are going to get EVEN MORE ENORMOUS than they already have, which simply can't be possible. They're going to explode - I'm sure of it.

I've gone from a not too shabby 32 D/DD to a simply ridiculous 36 F (I'm only 5ft 2 and was a size 10) and the thought of them being any bigger makes me want to cry. Seriously...

Better make it a giant bloody cabbage.

Inzi... great about your ml... count down those days and enjoy them in the knowledge that you'll have lots of time to prepare yourself for the big day... I'm currently trying to explain to DH why it might not be such a great idea to work right up until d-day. Tsk.

I'll paste the final list with all additions/deletions/specifications added towards the end of the week - hopefully it'll be of help... Sorry if it freaks you out honeyapple... at least you can use it as a pick list ...

DB
xx

well no advice from me muppet im a tearful wreak today
did the site not suggest treatment? Maybe speak to midwife?
L

Midwife was just' oh I'm sure it'll be better this time' and 'I'm not sure what you're asking me to advise you to do' when I told of traumatic time I had and how it effected me.

well she sounds sooo helpful what about NCT groups?
I had a horrible time but got over it fairly well but having real trouble getting over my car crash this time last year.
Hugs
l

ejt let me know how you get on with blue badge, and i will let you know too
You can complete forms online now. Good luck

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Big hugs to you all - sorry to those having bad days. I feel like I ache all over today. Must stop picking up ds all the time. Still feeling OK otherwise despite rubbish sleep!

Yes yes yes to the savoy cabbage! I gave them as part of their pressie to all the other mums in my nct group and several said they were the best present they got!! I would say to put the leaves into the freezer though as they defrost very quickly and worked for me better than fridge....

Muppet - I'm sure a traumatic birth experience must be just as bad as anything people suffer PTSD after having undergone... and I'd be pretty pissed off too if my midwife didn't take it seriously...

After all, it's pain and fear, so if someone can be taken seriously for having PTSD after a car-crash or an injury then i don't see why it's such a stretch to imagine an awful birth experience causing the same kind of problems. And then to have to do it again...

I've not got any experience or wisdom to offer on this one except that the midwives I've seen all seem really stretched time-wise. It's not an excuse but I think they tend to take the stance that if you're physically fine then they don't have a lot of time for anything else.

Is there another care-giver who might be more sympathetic? My NCT teacher seems lovely and I know a friend of mine is doing a 'refresher' NCT course which spends quite a bit of time on talking about and addressing previous birth experiences and their effects...

Juts a thought. I'm sure we're all here to listen if all else fails...

Big hug,

DB
xx

yeah its one of me i like, not many of those. Thanks
L

Muppetgirl ? I suffered with ptsd after the birth of ds ? which is one of the reasons why I put it off so long to try for another baby ? and why I go into a flat spin every time someone even suggests my delivering in the CL unit!
If you think that you have things that need resolving about the birth, then I?d get in touch with the midwifery counselling service at your local nhs trust ? you can usually self-refer ? if you phone the antenatal clininc and ask for the number for the midwifery counselling service, they should give it to you, no questions asked ? they really helped me get my head together ? and then helped me get through the 2 MCs I had last year. I?d really recommend it ? without that, I don?t think I could have ever even contemplated having another child.

Lisa ? don?t worry about being tearful ? it?s a big step when your little baby all of a sudden becomes a schoolchild ? the thinking behind doing joined-up writing from the off is that it takes away the huge leap many children have to make (and find difficult) when they start to learn how to do joined up writing ? having said that ? I?m not primary trained ? I?m sure we have a primary teacher on here who will put it much better than me!
I have DS?s reception induction tomorrow morning ? it?s a bit different for me as he?s been in the nursery unit for the past 5 terms ? which is just the next classroom along ? they?ve been going into the reception classroom since half term every day when the reception class are outside for play time, so he?s already used to it ? he?s really looking forward to going to school all day!

Have you got an address for doing the blue badge forms by any chance?

Designerbaby ? it?s actually to make sure you get the right back size ? you usually go down a back size, and up a cup size from where you are at 36 weeks ? my norks went up to a 34H when feeding ds ? I?m at a 36DD at the mo? ? although I may just have stretched them (my bras that is!) beyond the point of no return ? honestly, your boobs don?t explode ? they just feel like they?re going to when your milk comes in ? for a while you look like you?ve had mahooooosive implants!!!

Inzi ? so glad that your ml is going to work out for you!

Right, going to watch bblb ? stop talking, you lot!!!

ooooh - and I'm all excited - there's a new series of Britain's next top model starting tonight ... yes, I am officially a sad, sad person!

Well I typed this over an hour and a half ago, but the internet seemed to go belly up for me, couldn't get on for love nor money till now... so frustrating, so I'll repost it anyway even though you lot have gone mad chatting since |I was last on

ejt - mammoth post there

I know what you mean, the spicy foods you think are going to do you in are fine, the things you think are ok kill you. Strawberries and bananas really do me in, and the worst heartburn I have had so far has been after eating scones or pastry. My mum reckons anything with a high fibre content takes ages to digest which causes the heartburn, so I have ditched all my wholemeal bread/rice/pasta and gone back to white which actually seems a tad better.

Ditto nipple shields (can't remember who mentioned them) I nearly gave up bf after two weeks because I was in agony, these made sure I carried on for 5 months. The Lanishol (sp?) is also very good.

I do have a wardrobe for ds and it is full

Inzi - hope you feel ok, its wierd this suddenly throwing up malarky, I reckon its because everything is getting so squashed. I now can't bend over to do my toenails without getting pain in my tummy, looks like its DH's job to keep my feet neat now

Well I typed this over an hour and a half ago, but the internet seemed to go belly up for me, couldn't get on for love nor money till now... so frustrating, so I'll repost it anyway even though you lot have gone mad chatting since |I was last on

ejt - mammoth post there

I know what you mean, the spicy foods you think are going to do you in are fine, the things you think are ok kill you. Strawberries and bananas really do me in, and the worst heartburn I have had so far has been after eating scones or pastry. My mum reckons anything with a high fibre content takes ages to digest which causes the heartburn, so I have ditched all my wholemeal bread/rice/pasta and gone back to white which actually seems a tad better.

Ditto nipple shields (can't remember who mentioned them) I nearly gave up bf after two weeks because I was in agony, these made sure I carried on for 5 months. The Lanishol (sp?) is also very good.

I do have a wardrobe for ds and it is full

Inzi - hope you feel ok, its wierd this suddenly throwing up malarky, I reckon its because everything is getting so squashed. I now can't bend over to do my toenails without getting pain in my tummy, looks like its DH's job to keep my feet neat now

hello - just a quick one to say on the back on my feeling so bad at the weekend, (I thought I was spiralling into pre-natal depression on Sat/Sun (and made Dr's appt cause I got seriously freaked out)) I've read something which I thought I'd pass on because I know others are struggling a bit too ;

apparently from 24-28 weeks, there is an additional hormone surge which makes you feel like you're out of control, overwhelmed, resentful and regretful even. It can also enhance 1st trimester sickness and tiredness. Thought I'd mention it becasue it made me feel a lot better to know that whilst a lot of our feelings are inevitable (we are doing something extremely hard, we just forget it), it is good to hear that the scary, darkest hour panicky feelings are part and parcel of it too.

I hoep that brings a little bit of comfort (although maybe not for designerbaby, as I hate to tell you I went up to 36J when I started b/feeding DS!!!! There were epic tears in mothercare when I realised they didn't even make that size. But they settle down I promise. And it's all worth it in the end!!