@Murphyrocks oo thanks, I'll have a look at the spinning babies site. When is it likely that they start running out of room to turn around or can they do that quite late? Midwife said they don't worry about position until 37 weeks. I thought space to turn would be tight by then but i don't know much!
@wordsmithereens thank you, that means a lot. It's nice to have others who are going through the same thing to chat to.
Ha yes I'd never felt anything painful before until it came to belly button kicks. I normally love baby kicking but for the first time it was uncomfortable. Wonder if it becomes painful elsewhere as they get bigger! I find it hard to visualise baby too. Like I can feel him but can't picture him as a baby at all.
@PurpleFlower1983 hi! Feeling the same too, when I move around I look a bit penguin like 
bump taking it's toll now!
@SquirtlesMumAgain sorry to hear you're still feeling rubbish, must be horrible for it to be so relentless. That 24 week milestone is quite nice when you know that intervention could mean they'd be ok should anything happen. Fingers crossed they stay nice and cosy for a while now but I agree that it's reassuring.
@Gronk27 had my 25 wk appointment on Tuesday and midwife didn't mention talking to bump. She felt around and showed me where my uterus started/ended but no official measurement. I ramble away to bump a lot anyway, the dog can't work out what I'm doing when it's just the two of us.
Speaking of bump being able to hear us, on my pregnancy app when I got to 16 weeks it said that baby can now hear you etc and to talk to it, then at 24weeks it mentioned it again as though it was new? Today at 25weeks apparently baby can remember songs and voices and react to them! It's all so fascinating.