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FloriaTosca · 05/06/2007 13:44

Thought I'd get the new thread started as no one objected to my title suggestion

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FloriaTosca · 18/06/2007 18:15

Thanks for the story Mrs Fish...and thanks for telling us about it Greedy..I needed a laugh ...MrsF it sounds like you got a DH in a million!

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MrsFish · 18/06/2007 18:32

He certainly is

nellieloula · 18/06/2007 18:41

Hi everyone - so much here I can hardly keep up! But just wanted to say Floria,I hope you're ok - how upsetting for you;

J20, I am GBS+ too and it's really ok; nothing to even really think about - just make sure that the midwives actually give you the antibiotics during labour though(our's didn't give me enough despite our begging them to change the bag and our DS ended up in special care having antibiotics a few times a day - you can do without that straight after birth!!) - but whilst I know what the shock is like (esp as it meant I couldn't have my birth at home as I'd planned)I also really think that it is so much better to know about these things in advance and be able to plan. Better this way than the baby picking something up.

Hope everyone else is ok - also just wanted to ask about baby movements, cause this LO doesn't seemt to be moving that much - I'm thinking maybe this is because this one is just less active than my kicking DS, or do you think it's because 2nd time round your muscles etc are so stretched you don't feel as much??? Just a thought - if anyone has any others I'd love to hear them.

Have a good evening everyone.

HonorMatopoeia · 18/06/2007 18:53

Evening all
Floria - so sorry to hear about you Dad, I can only imagine how frustrating it must be for you to read about the drug in the paper. Sending you lots of love and hugs.

Whoever mentioned about the kicks down south (sorry no memory again tonight!) I know what you mean.My lo seems to be totally concerned with cervix kicking and I can only explain it as feeling like I'm about to break wind through the wrong end totally weird!

Nellieloula, I worry about this lo and the movements too. I don't feel I get as many as I did with Dd. The only thing I can think about is that I'm so busy with work and a toddler this time round that I just don't register when I'm feeling movements where as last time I was kind of fixated on it!

I'm determined to try and get an early night tonight as Dd woke up at ten to five this morning and I've had the day from hell today Ho hum!

j20baby · 18/06/2007 20:39

hi all, just popping in cos i am really going to try and get an early night tonight.
thanks for all your support about the GSB, its good to know i'm not alone.

ft, so sorry about your dad, irs just not fair is it.

alice, congratulations, thats great!

right, have stripped the rest of the kitchen and going to paper it tommorrow, but will take lots of breaks if i need to, honestly!

also bought a carpet today, it was in a charity shop that i think a carpet shop had donated for only £10, so managed to get it in the car and need to paint my stairs and hallway, then i will use it for that, only the open plan living room and dining room to strip, wallpaper and sort flooring out and then my house will be nearly sorted

before any on of you shout at me, i will not do anything too strenuous, promise, and its best to get it done before i get too big to get up a ladder

sorry if i've missed anyone out, i just can't remember who said what again but hope everyone is well

oh and regarding the lo's kicking, mine seems to trampoline on my bladder quite a lot and is very active, in fact its quite painful sometimes!

alicet · 18/06/2007 21:41

buffy thanks for the suggestion about the bebecar twin pushchair will def check that out...

Hi to the rest of you - about to go to bed so this is just a quick post really but hope you're all feeling well!

And link please to the amusing wet patch story involving MrsFish!!!

MrsFish · 18/06/2007 21:51

Here you go, copy and pasted from other thread

It was when I had first met dh, the first time of meeting all his friends at a BBQ, I had been out in Nottingham all day and had eaten nothing, got back to his house and whilst helping him prepare all the food for a bbq I drank a bottle of white wine to myself on an empty stomach. Everyone arrived, it all went well, I was persuaded to do a yard of ale, which I did but it was carling so a bit fizzy. I then drank a shedload of vodka... so surfice to say I was absolutely slaughtered, ended up going to bed (passed out) at 7pm, before the food was cooked... (not usually such a binge drinker, I think it was nervousness of meeting his friends and only knowing him a week... but thats not the end of it...

Just to set the scene - As I said, I was out cold in my dh's bed by 7pm (the relationship was very new, and this was the first time I had met all his friends) Well apparently he came to check on me later on in the evening as I was in a right state which is where the mortifyingly embarrassing incident took place, when he told me the next morning, I nearly left his house and never looked back. I had gotten out of bed the next morning and put my foot in a wet patch by the side of the bed, I asked him if I had thrown up in the night (really cannot remember a thing) nope it was much much worse... apparently I had got out of bed whilst he was there and said I needed to use the toilet, he pointed me in the direction of the en-suite bathroom approx 5 yards away... but I didn't want to use that it would seem, he then said I had pulled down my knickers, squatted and did it on the carpet then got back in bed and passed out again.

I can't believe we got married 4 years later, I very nearly fled without a backwards glance.

Mumpbump · 19/06/2007 09:54

Good story, Mrs Fish. My exboyf did exactly the same, except we had two friends staying in our room, one of whom woke up when she heard the pee hitting the floor... Very embarrassing for my ex, but more common than you realise, we discovered... That wasn't why our relationship finished, I hasten to add. Have to go to a meeting, but will try to post later...

greedygreedyguzzler · 19/06/2007 10:16

nellie and honor - first time when i was pg with ds i thought he was a wriggler and i felt lots of movements, BUT i didnt know any different.............it was only when i was pg for the second time with dd i realised what an active baby was really like!!!!! she wriggled CONSTANTLY!!!!! so, my point is, if its happening the other way round for you both and you are getting less movements this time i am sure it is nothing to worry about just differences between babies! my dd didnt keep still for a second once she was born either! she still doesn't (unless Dora is on the tv!)

FloriaTosca · 19/06/2007 10:17

Too true...when I was a student and lived in a shared house, one of the girls brought her new fella back...in the middle of the night he walked into the bedroom next to the bathroom (belonging to another girl), opened the wardrobe and peed all over her ball gown! She was not amused! It made us all get locks for our doors!
I am sorry to say that I'm a boring old bag with no really embarrassing stories to tell...the worst I ever got with drink (martini cocktails;a mix of rosso and bianco..we downed 5 bottles between 3 of us)I did make it to the bathroom but I distinctly remember standing at the top of the stairs and saying "shall I be conventional and walk down or shall I FLY!"..I still dont remember which I one did!...then there was the incident with the 28 glasses of wine on my 28th birthday..but all that happened then was I lost my jewelery for a few hours..I found it neatly laid out in my knicker drawer.... and then there was....

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FloriaTosca · 19/06/2007 10:21

oops sorry cross posted with Greedy I as reflecting on MrsF and Mumps comment incase someone thinks I'm on the sauce at this time of the morning

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ejt1764 · 19/06/2007 10:33

Morning all ...

did so much yesterday (work related) ... and have finished my reports!! hurray!! Also got my assessment sheets sorted and done, and a couple of fiddly things that needed doing - than I popped into work to take them in - I was a whingy mess again last night - am going to take it MUCH easier today!

J20 - please take it easy ... or I shall come round and poke you with my crutches!!
Don't panic about the GBS - it's better that they know about it now, and can plan to give the ABs ...

buffy - I am eternally grateful I don't have to do the twin buggy thing!
Congratulations on wimming the Maclaren ..

A top for those of you who do ebay is to use a sniping site, like auctionsniper ... you tell it how much the maximum is that you want to bid and it bids on your behalf: I use it when I'm doing auctions, and I win about 90% of them - I get it to place my bid 11 seconds before the end of the auction - it then stops bidding wars! It costs 5cents for each 'snipe' - and is well worth it!
If you want me to send you an invitation for auctionsniper, then let me know (email me at eirianthomas232 at hotmail dot com - writing it out in full is supposed to stop the spammers!)

betsy - lovely to hear from you - sorry to hear about your Grandads.

mumpbump - I've decided not to do the weightgain thing at all - I've already put 27lbs on! Stupidly though, it's all bump (I'm huge) ... I was washing my hands last night, and my fingers have gone so skinny, my wedding ring fell off! When I was pg with ds, by this point I'd swelled up so much I had to wear my wedding ring on a chain around my neck, as wearing it made my finger turn blue!
Oh, and I gave up underwires about 3 months ago ....

floria - you rant away - what else are we here for?
I have to admit to being a real sceptic about 'all-knowing' medics (sorry alice!) - my sister is very severely physically disabled with a congenital collagen abnormality, and we so often end up educating the medics who are supposed to be treating her, that I tend to be a bit on the bolshy side!

nellie - I'm also thinking that Madam Bean is not moving as much as I remember ds moving, but there's 3 things that I think may be masking it:
-I have ds now, so have less time to focus on it!
-the placenta is right at the front of my stomach - so any kicks she makes in that area, I don't feel - it's all sides and bladder and cervix - she keeps knocking my coccyx too (ouch!)
-I remember ds moving right towards the end, when every moment seemed to involve my whole stomach doing the alien thing ... I know I didn't feel any movements at all with ds until I was at least 20 weeks ... I've been feeling flutters from madam bean since about 14 weeks I think!

HMP - hope you slept well!

greedy - hiya - hope you're ok!

MrsFish - fantastic story!

Right, am off to sort out more of DS's baby clothes to sell.....

Am very tempted by one of those amby baby nests ... what do you all think - we already have a lovely canvas crib ...

ejt1764 · 19/06/2007 10:35

x posted with floria ... I'm not going to get started on my stories ....

let's just leave it at the fact that the first time I met dh, I took his trousers down with my teeth ... there was quite a lot of alkifrol involved in that incident!

Pheebe · 19/06/2007 12:04

Floria

I am so sorry to hear about your Dad and especially for your discovery that there was a potential treatment option for him. Your Dads illness seemed to take him very quickly and it might have been that the docs felt that to offer or suggest further treatment at that stage would have been too much of a burden for him as alot of these treatments often come with side effects. I hope thats the case anyway. I do hope that in the future you'll be able to take comfort from the time you had with him at the end rather than seeing it as just a hopeless time. I lost both my grandparents very suddenly (I was as close to them as to my parents when I was growing up) and there were so many things I wanted and needed to say to them. I do strongly believe though that the people we love never really leave us, my grandparents were standing beside me proud as punch on the day I got married, they were with me when I was pregnant with DS1 and are around me now I'm pregnant again.

I hope this helps you a little, this must be such a tough time for you {{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}

alicet · 19/06/2007 19:37

MrsFish thats hilarious!!!! Reminded me of a similar incident that I ahd completely forgotton about....

Was very drunk when I was a student after our house xmas party (we would each invite a friend and cook a 3 course meal incl turkey and all the trimmings). Anyway I copped off with a mate of one of my flatmates and he spent the night - don't remember a massive amount but the next morning he said I got up to go to the loo and he saw me squatting over my school bag!!!! How embarrassing! He did come over and stay with me again a few times (he lived in Ireland at the time) but we never hit it off properly!!!

ejt - congrats on finishing your reports - bet thats a huge relief! And don't worry about bitching about docs - I know we're not perfect! I personally don't pretend to know anything. If patients have an unusual condition that I don't know much about (and we can't know about everything) I am very happy to listen to their advice in addition to going and reading up about it myself! I think its very ignorant to think you know everything. Hopefully I'm good at what I do on a day to day basis but there will always be times when you can learn from others! great tip about auctionsniper too - will be sending you a mail for an invitation if thats ok!

Pheebe what a lovely post about your grandparents being with you. Brought a tear to my eye!

Hello everyone else - better stop chatting for a while now or we won't have any tea tonight! Maybe later....

ejt1764 · 19/06/2007 21:03

alice - Glad you didn't get too upset about my bitching about docs!!

Have a question for medical-type people - have opened a new thread: here

FloriaTosca · 20/06/2007 10:03

Pheebe; that was lovely Thank you.
I think we are still probably in the angry stage of grief and are jumping on anything to take the pain away... however we are writing to the hospital/patient arbitaration service to ask for an explaination as to why we were not at least informed about the drug ...Reading about it since Sunday it appears that it isnt a miracle drug, it doesnt extend life expectancy by more than a few months and can have some severe side effects (which is why the board that controls drugs in England refuse to provide it...not cost effective!)..but Dad suffered those exact symptoms anyway with out any drugs and only survived 4 months after diagnosis when we had been told he would probably have 9-12...I wouldnt have wanted him to have those extra 5 if he was suffering, but his whole demeanour changed once he was told there would be no treatment at all..those first 3 weeks after the junior doctor broke the news and told him he would be sent to Christies and given chemo he was actually his usual optimistic self, but once the consultant said he would not be referring him Christies because there was no efficacious treatment Dad was utterly deflated and said he felt he had been chucked on the scrap heap...not to have been given the option to try it by buying it privately is what hurts and I think unless we ask for an explanation it will always eat away at us. Sorry to talk on such a depressing subject again...I'll shut up now
Ejt I'm so sorry you are in such pain...I wish I had the knowledge to help and dearly hope that someone can advise you and bring you some relief soon. (((hugs...gently)))

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betsycoe · 20/06/2007 15:14

Hi everyone,
well I've done it. I've finally bought something for the baby!!

I've just ordered a Mountain buggy urban pushchair/pram in a rather fetching shade of Plum. It is starting to feel real now that I've actually got something for her.

Only the cot, clothes, car seat, etc etc to go....

Pheebe · 20/06/2007 16:39

Floria, I'd definitely recomend some grief counselling when you feel up to it. I found I just couldn't deal with it on my own.

Well done Betsy, its a great feeling isn't it. As soon as I hit 5 months with DS1 I went nuts and bought everything within a few weeks

Sadly this time, we have pretty much everything so not much scope for baby shopping for me. We do need a new changing table, still using the old one for DS1 to spare my poor back and the plastic covers split now, a new lambskin and the second seat for the P&T E3 and thats it. I WILL be buying SOME new clothes, we have tons already but I'll be sharing them with my SIL who's having her little boy in August so I think my DS2 deserves some new clothes of his own. I'm also considering disposable nappies this time. OO and I'm going to get a new changing bag.

Had a bit of a worrying afternoon. I got back from picking DS1 up from nursery and suddenly got the excruciating pain right across the top of my bump just under my ribs. If I wasn't pregnant and it was lower down I would have said it was IBS. It went after about 45 minutes of coming and going and me panicking I was in early labour and now I just feel sore and achy. MW reckons its really common and so long as it doesn't come back, get lower down my bump and there's no bleeding or fluid loss I shouldn't worry. Bub is still wriggling like a gymnast so I know he's OK. Anyone else had something similar?

amiej · 20/06/2007 18:16

Hi everyone.

New here. Well, lurking since the beginning actually. 23 weeks today, a girl (private scan at 18 weeks with Create Health). Have ds aged 5. 1 more week until really viable if born early. V cautious after mc in Nov last year.

Another elective ceasarean, as I panic when constipated. And I've heard labour is like constipation only more so. Not.

Ds very excited, but would have been more excited if boy or puppy.

It is going to be a very long, very hot summer for v. pregnant peoples (except for next two weeks because Wimbledon is on, so it will rain).

alicet · 20/06/2007 18:25

Hi and welcome amiej!

alicet · 20/06/2007 18:26

And Betsy I'm very jealous about the mountain buggy! Think this is almost certainly what we will go for but want to actually see one and try ds in it before I fork out all that cash. Was looking on ebay for a second hand one but again want to make sure its the right one for us....

MrsFish · 20/06/2007 18:31

Welcome amiej

nellieloula · 20/06/2007 18:43

Hi everyone - just a quick one to say hi to amiej and hope everyone else has had a good day - have to say, I feel like I'm full term today - really breathless, look enormous and still have 18 weeks! ho hum. have a good evening.

HonorMatopoeia · 20/06/2007 18:45

Welcome amiej
Hope everyone is well,sorry for the short post- I'm hideously busy at work at the moment!
Hopefully post something more meaningful soon x

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