Due in December 07- Our 'June, June, getting ready to bloom' thread HERE!!!!!!

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Hello all and welcome to this month's thread!!
Let's all stop feeling sick and start expanding now

suey, I am also completely knackered at the end of the day but find a bit of exercise (temporarily) gives me more energy - you know what they say about that post-exercise endorphin rush or whatever it is.

anyway am beginning to feel like a bit of a freak so no more mention of exercise!!

Hello, been off for a few days as not been feeling too good. Went to docs yesterday pm and have been diagnosed with an ear infection and been given penicillin.
Hope everyone is okay.
Very sad news about flipflopper. The poor lass, know how she feels...

Housemum what at fitflops?
I'll be picking up my prenatal listener today!

Bouncing turtle - FitFlops

Ahh!!! Do they work?

Got my listener, however need batteries!!!

hi bouncing turtle
i got a prenatal listener theo ther day found it for a £1 with all the bits defo works as tested on dd but says i have to wait till about 2o wks before can here bubs and with all my fat probably longer.

not been on for couple of days as feelin bit low, me and dp had a row about the other day about money(dont you hate those ones) and finally realising i cant have a million things i want for this baby because we just cant afford it, trying to buy everything for bubs now before i move in with him officially(i have house over the road)as we wil then have to claim tax credits etc and will be alot worse off(dp job pays terribly and he will have to support us all have been looking for work but dont think theres much chance now as getting a bump) will lose out on free milk tokens and will have to start paying school dinners will cost about £15 a week

and if thats not enough had a letter from my landlord complaining about the state of the garden so not been able to sleep properly for about a week, going to cost me bout £80 that i dont have, to sort it out before i give up my tenancy, otherwise i wont get my deposit back.

anyway enough about me(dont want to turn it into a moaning thread) i hope everyone is ok, and starting to bloom

I love a good moan mad4girls. You need to get it out out you sometimes.

We've had a few arguments over the money situation. I must admit dp and I do ok between the two of us but it will be hard trying to survive on stat and his wages. I'm thinking ahead and trying to put as much aside now as I can. Dp on the other hand is spending money partying like there's no tomorrow. He's usually broke two weeks after he gets paid and then has to borrow off me which pisses me off as he gets at least 500 quid more than me a month. We haven't even started getting stuff yet as I want to wait until after the 20 wk scan so stressing out.

Is anyone else getting a proper bump yet? I'm starting to get worried as I'm not really showing much yet and 16+4. Everyone keeps commenting on how little a bump I have which isn't helping much. A couple of weeks ago I thought I was but think it was just constipation!! I'm usually a size 8 so thought it would show more on me.

Mad4girls - do try looking at Freecycle - you'd be surprised what some people give away. Or check to see if your local NCT or twins club has a regular sale. Last time there were things like cots for £20 at our local NCT sale, it depends what people price them at but sometimes you can be lucky and bag a real bargain.

Good point housemum. Try wwww.freecycle.org or www.giveortake.org mad4girls.

Thought I would add myself to the list- only discovered this site on friday!
Neuro 29th Dec my first baby
jinxed 26th Nov 2dd's (2.9yrs and 1.6yrs)
Nbg 28th Nov 1dd and 1 ds (3 and 9 months)
BeansterMum 30th Nov 1dd (nearly 2)
cazzybabs - 30th Nov 2dds (4 and 2) 2mc
Angelhunter 1st December, 1dd (12 mths)
tombliboo 1st Dec 1dd (22 mths) 1mc
kandi 1st Dec 1dd (16 mths)
thelady 2nd Dec
BeachBunni - 3rd Dec
Bunny Baby 3rd Dec
mad4girls 4th dec 2dds (7,4) 2mcs
Ambi - 4th Dec
Kitsilano 5th Dec 1dd (23 mths) 1mc
BornToBeAPrincess 1st Dec 2dds (3yrs and 9 mth)
GemBean 6th Dec 1dd (13 mths)
Claraq 6th dec 1dd (19 months)
Taliac - 6th Dec 1dd (10mths)
mimicakey - 6th Dec
Lizzer, 8th Dec, 1 dd (7yrs)
skidaddle 10th Dec 1dd (17mths)
suey2 10th Dec
Caz10 11th Dec
daisyboohoo 11th December
Insywinsyspider, 13th Dec, 1 ds (12mo)
Bimblin 14th December, 1 ds (2)
dundeemarmalade 14th Dec
Bambino1: 15th December 1dd (3 in aug)
Lucy 16th December, 1 dd (14 mths)
Fifisworld 17th Dec 1 ds ( 11 mths)
FurryFox 17th Dec apprx, 1 dd (20 mths)
peanutbutter = 21st Dec, 1ds (21m)
Bouncingturtle - 23rd December.
Curlygirly 24th Dec, 2dss (4yr, 21m) 1mc
littledetails 24th dec
Fleacircus - 25th Dec, this will be my first!
MotherofZ - 25th Dec 1DD (18 months)
buzzybee - 25th Dec, 1 DD (5.3 years)
Keepitreal-26 Dec 1DS(8yrs)2DD(IDTwins 7mths)
Becklespeckle, 27th Dec, 2 DSs (6.10 & 4.4)
Niks - 27th Dec
Tabimum - 27th Dec 1dd(13 mths)
Housemum - 29th Dec, 2 DDs (14 & 4)
macdoodle 30th dec 1DD (5years)
Imawurzel - 31st December (first timer)
Awen - 5th Jan - 1DS (7yrs)

Beachbunni - i'm 14 weeks today and look fat not pregnant.

Mad4girls - if you can't moan on here where can you moan? Sorry you and DH had row.
Can definitely sympathise on the money front, DH and I are saving like mad as I'll only be on SMP during my ML due to my tight arse company. Actually a colleague is going on ml next month as she has written a letter of complaint to our HR that they only give smp regardless who the employee is and how long they've been with the company. There isn't that many women in the company, my colleague and I have very key positions, she's been there 11 years, me 7, you think they would give us a bit extra to reflect the years of service and the essential skills we bring to the company. She's a DGSA and I'm a CoTC holder, both absolutely essential qualifications (and very difficult to get!) that company is required by law to have employees with. But no, they are merely content to abide by the letter of the law.

bouncing turtle i think that is appalling! As an employer i know that they get 97% back via their PAYE bill. I think I paid my employee (who had only been working for me for 3 months before she got pregnant) 6 weeks full pay and 6 weeks half pay and she got SMP on top of that. Make sure you get your holiday entitlement: I believe you are entitled to at least 2 weeks holiday pay if you are taking 6 months maternity. And don't forget the tax rebate which will be considerable.
I as the boss get b*** all. I employ 7 people and am only entitled to maternity allowance which is about the same as SMP: so I am trying to save like mad. Bit of a shame, then that I broke my arm on the tube 6 weeks ago and couldn't work for 6 weeks, but that's life.

hello ladies

kids going to my mums in a mo theh will have all afternoon to chat to you lovely ladies and then go for a mega long soak, got caught in the rain earlier and my hair looks like ive been electricuted and all my clothes are soaked or in wash so got really awful clothes on had to beg other half to go shop because i was so embaressed

as for my other half its dp actuley not dh hes actuley married to someone else but its a very long and complicated story(Im a good girl honest) if anyone is interested i will reveal but would turn into a bit of a bitter ex man hating story but from what i here some of us are in that club already

please dont think im some terrible other woman story either coz its not like that

Oh suey can I come work for you?? I get 90% for six weeks then just smp. I work for a company that if privately owned, has loads of brands and this guy can afford to give himself billion pound bonuses at Christmas. Alright for some, isn't it?

Mad4girls - we're here to offer support during your pregnancy, we're not here to judge you. If you want to tell us then do so, but don't feel you have to. Hope you are feeling better today, btw how's the toothache? Any better?

toothache been niggling alot today and yesterday a bit paranoid that all infection isnt gone as finished antibiotics to the end but roof of my mouth still feels a bit swollen, there on wednesday and starting to worry again.

i will tell you the short basic version
this is the situation going back 4 yrs

me and ex hub are married -we were school sweethearts but whne we left school i met someone else got pregnant move to scotland with him and he cheats on me, so i come back home,meet ex again and dd1 is 3 mths at this point 2000, and i have rented my own place made friends with neighbours and bestfriends with a couple over road who have a baby son.

we make a life together he is greatest dad in the whole world to dd and dd is complete dadies girl(does everything for her night feeds story time bath time i get lies ins etc), 18 motnhs go by we move house very close, i get pregnant i get married and dd2 is born 2002, the friend i made also has her baby another son 10 wks before me (we spend lot of time together kids similar ages etc)

anyway as far as im concened life is normal he is great with kids etc,my best friend with 2 boys gets married to bf of 6yrs in may 03, one day in oct 03 we have a row about a shift hes offerd to work on a day which i had plans for, next thing he says he going out so as you say in these stupid arguments "dont bother coming back then" obviuosly not expecting him to pay attention, but he didnt come home and it was 2 days before he rang to say he was having an affair with my so called best friend (the one with 2 sons) and hes not coming back, so gets his stuff and moves out

he sees the kids a few times as its around dd1 bday but once that has past he refuses to make arrangments after this and wont come to see the kids (they are 4 and 15mths) never sent them a christmas card or present since. have tried to make arrangemnts since then even offering him visitation in the divorce and he chooses not too, obviously dd1 was the most devastated as far she was concerned it was her dad(very bad time)

anyway while all this had kicked off me and my ex best friends husband, had spent alot of time together as noone knew what was going on at first and we would just visit each other as friends giving each other info on what the 2 of them were up to IYKWIM. ts

after xmas 03 me and ex bf hubby realise we really enjoy each others company and start something (at first we made out it was asex thing but it later turned into something v special) anyway after many fights with ex and my ex bf as well as trying to be friends with her again (YES EVEN AFTER THAT) after all that me and dp have been living toether for 18 mths now and expecting our 1st child together, our ex's have been living together with her children since they got together and they had a daughter together last yr.

things i feel are on an even keel now if that makes any sense there was alot of bitching and bitterness for along time after but the last 2 yrs what they do has no impact on our lives anymore, he sees his 2 sons once a fortnight via an impartial person we dont speak to them , and they dont speak to us.

dd1 speaks to her real dad now but its hard for dd2 to understand that her dad doesnt want to know, but after this fathers day says it all when she wrote a card for dp saying your like a big brother to me, made me cry a little.

anyway thsts nearly my life story (AND YES THATS THE SHORT VERSION) sorry for long thread, hope ppl dont think im whining oh poor me, i used to do that but im in a much better place now (in my mind i mean ) time was hard but we have a good life now and i believe we are truly happy now and we both believe you cant predict the future but you can always be honest.

sorry think i might cry at that last bit must be hormaones

Blimey hon and I thought my life was complicated ...on another forum I frequent I got accused of making it up like recent Eastenders plot (anyway I think that was the implication )....doesn't sound like you did anything to be ashamed of in all this mess and I hope things can now work out for you and your DC

just ashame as dp cant afford to get a divorce as he has a rubbish job, they are both sat scamming benefits and doing nothing but she wont get divorced why i wonder?

gave up trying to work her out yrs ago just put it donw to her being a nutter

and this is my life i didnt make it up i promise

Might actually be feeling less sick I think 13+5

Mad4 don't excuse yourself, you have done nothing wrong. It would be natural for you to get together with the one person who knew exactly what you were going through at that time. If anything, you have gone up in my estimation by trying to become friends with the old best friend again. Sorry, but I could never have done that. Once somebody betrays my trust, that's it - it's gone.

Was very naughty today. Had a fry and couldn't help myself but could no longer abstain from a runny egg. It was yummy!!

Must head off to bed now, back to work tomorrow after a weeks hols. Dreading it. The past week or so have started getting back pains, like a nerve spasming. It's with me from morning til night and really starting to get me down. Don't know how I'm going to handle standing on my feet all day. Nuff moaning. Beddy byes time....

Mad4girls {{{{{{hugs}}}}}} your poor dd2, and you. I hope you and your dp get your happy ending, you both deserve it and your exes deserve each other (both nasty pieces of work!).
Beachbunni - last wednesday I had poached egg on toast for breakfast and turkey, cranberry and blue stilton sandwich for lunch .

Feel fine, though morning sickness has returned....

mad4girls , here's hoping for a settled future for you and dp and your girls, what a time you've been through!

I need to get my eating under control . I'm lonely for dh who's away so much of the time and in the evenings i'm just eating for comfort but it's appalling stuff - cheese toasties, bowls of sugary cereal...i'm just getting fatter and fatter and my face looks bloated along with the rest of me . Anyone any tips on how i can get a grip??!!

Hi all,

peanut - I think cheese toasties are relatively healthy!! And non-sugary cereal is def healthy - maybe get some of that instead? I don't know if this will help you, but to stop myself snacking on crap, I eat LOADS at mealtimes and am then not hungry for anything else. It is easy to make healthy meals and then you can eat as much as you like.

mad4girls - you have done nothing wrong at all, and it is great you have finally found happiness with your dp. I think it's also great that you're encouraging your ex to see his daughters - what more can you do than that. Although it must be heartbreaking to see you poor dd so disappoined

Beachbunni - think it is fine to treat yourself now and again - you can do a lot worse than a runny egg! Re your small bump, I think a lot of slim women don't really show for ages. I know someone who is tiny and you wouldn't have gueesed she was pg until about 6 months and then suddenly she was huge. So enjoy it while yo can still wear normal clothes!

I am now I maternity wear full-time- bought a really cool dress in H&M at the w/e which is quite tight but at least I look pg and not fat. Last time round I wore loads of huge baggy things and just looked frumpy so this time I am going for the 'proud of my bump' look!!

Just been to see the consultant for my antenatal appt (have to have consultant-led care because I had a PPH last time) - he was lovely and listened to the baby's heartbeat and his face lit up when he heard it, bless him (so did mine of course!)

I agree with skidaddle- loads of calcium and b vitamins in that lot. I try and have something healthy then a samll amount of something really naughty to satisfy my urges. But i also had a v unhealthy day yesterday- bacon sandwich, pork pie, huge bage of crisps and spag bol was my diet for the day! We all fall of the wagon sometimes, unless you have a will of steel!
House purchase fell through so felt very sorry for myself. Although i had to kick myself in the a* after i read mad4girls posts, though! I am very lucky

Rain rain rain rain. AAAAAAAAAAAARGH. Four days of steady rain interrupted by torrential downpours and thunder. Not putting me in the best frame of mind for a disciplinary meeting with staff today....

Why is it that some employees think that being asked to do something is an invitation to argue about whether you're right? It's a kitchen FGS and if chef says 'do x' then the ONLY correct response is to do it! Unless it's dangerous or illegal, obviously.

Sorry. Very frustrated. Hard-working staff, but I am SO fed up of getting 'nonono' as a response when I try to ask them to do anything they haven't thought of first. Maybe I should get them to watch Gordon Ramsay for a while - and they'd understand that we're not being nearly as unreasonable as they think we are .

Off to plan dinner menus for the week for me, DH and staff. Hope those of you in the Midlands are keeping above water level.

Anyone else's belly feeling really tight and uncomfortable? My abdominal muscles are really struggling to stretch as fast as junior wants