Due November No3

[Twinkie]

Hi All - sorry hope you don't mind me starting a new thread but my laptop won;t let me put a message on the other one - I think cause it is so long!!

Anyway glad you are all ok - Pandabear - think it is quite common for you not to feel baby if you are active all day - if I have a really busy day I get worried and then I sit and relax and he goes into overdrive - its grosse sometimes like I have an alien inside my belly!!

Have midwife appointment today just routine but am going to ask if she thinks baby will be huge - everyone on hols acted like I was ready to give birth and were stunned when I told them I had 14 weeks left but then again the BA lady asked if I were pregnant when we checked in and all the mumsnetters I saw at last meet up did not tthink I was huge!! I haven't put on anything other than my big bump and inflated boobs though so thats a relief so far!!

Sam if you still have the UTI try to drink as much as you can - cranberry juice or flat lemonade are supposed to work well.

Tonic water is still keeping the reflux under control to an extent and other than clicky hips and being sooooo bloody hot all is ok inthe Twinkie Pregnancy so far.

bunny2 I was wondering the same thing this morning in the shower when I was having a squeeze of my boobs! Very unscientifically, I rekon that once the baby is born some sort of hormonal effect is triggered which will then bring your milk through in a couple of days. I would think that until then you will just produce colostrum (although I could, of course be compltely wrong!).

x

I've been worrying about that too. I have been very good and only tried to have one little squeeze since I first found this the other night, but yesterday morning woke up with a dried milk trail all the way down to my elbow! I don't really want it coming out of there yet! Got some breast pads yesterday, they appeared dry this morning! Got quite upset when it says on the box for use in late pregnancy or whilest breast feeding! Maybe we chould do a post about it under childbirth and see if Mears or anyone who's done it recently knows the answers!

Ok, I think I'll go for it, I'll post one here and one in childbirth, then maybe we can get some good experiences and be told to stop being so silly (hopefully!). I can't find anything really if I search to answer this question.

Hello everyone

Just got back from holiday (again), I also have pubic pain especially when turning round at night, but not so bad as some of you describe. The midwife told me to try not to take long strides and keep legs close as much as possible especially when turning in bed! I hope it doesn't get to the point I'll need physio. I'm starting yogfa in 2 weeks and that will help hopefully!!

I also had a very weird dream about having a boy and not being able to recognise him among a group of babies, it felt awful!!

And the enst day we found out it is actually going to be a girl!!!

DD1 is over the moon as she's been saying all alonf it was going to be a girl, and we're just as happy. I hope they'll have a better chance of being friends this way!

The baby's moving around a lot, somersaulting most of the time and it's just the best experience in the world! I'm already sad at the thought this might be my last pregnancy, but try to think about the baby, and I'm sure I won't feel broody for at least another 2 years after she's born , if she's anything like her sister!!!

I'm not leaking any milk and haven't done with dd1, but I'm sure you'll still get colostrum once the baby arrives because of hormones released during labour and following birth.

Hi all. Looks like it has been quite here. I have been on hols in France last week and just back at work today (boo). How is everyone? I have had alot of strange ailments that I won't go into, but am trying to stay focused and not get in a panic as I have a tendancy to do. Baby is moving tonnes now! Just since last night it has been moving so much that my bump moves all over the place. The little rip actually kicked a book off my belly last night! DH was very impressed - it was hilarious.

Hey, I like the layout of the main site now, makes sense actually.

Hi PP, good to have you back! Yes, it has been quiet herehasnt it? I too am in my element worrying about everything. I am sure my bump isnt getting any higher - it is meant to be 6 cm above my navel but it doesnt seem to be. Still, baby is kicking loads so I am sure all is ok.

hope all is well with everyone - been a little busy here - with dd and therapy and trying to find a nursery for one day a week. Managed to give myself a minor dose of food poisoning ( I think!!) planning a long weekend away to the beach next weekend - probably our last break before no2 arrives. My brother wants to take dd ( aged 2) surfing!! She will love it - a real water baby!!He assured me she would be all right as he would take the fin off the board!! I trust him implicitly but just felt I needed to remind him that dd is only 2 !! and I can't go in the water with her as I don't fit into my swimsuit anymore.... hopefully it will be a nice break!!

Hello all - hope that you are all growing and blooming nicely - people are starting to treat me like I can;t do things now which is noce sometimes and bothers me at others - everyoe is constantly telling me to sit down!!! (Mainly because they think I am sooo huge that I am going to have babay if I stand for too long it seems!!).

Went to Mamas & Papas at the weekend and bought pushchair and crib and such like so now our dining room is looking like a warehouse whilst we wait for DSs room to be decorated (DPs mum!!) and then we will have to have a flat pack day!! This baby lark has ended up being super expensive you know!!

Gliding Chair came - is fab - if I manage to get DD out of it - really has helped with my hip - went to Physio and met a nice few people who am going to ring to arrange to meet -a re all pregnant and live near me - Physio was no more helpful than sticking a problem on here though gave nme a huge bit of tubigrip and told me to go away!!

Hope you are all ok - will any of you be coming to the city meet up in September?? - I am not sure I can make it to the meet up at corams fields as will have to travel alone with DD and it may be a bit much on the train asnd tube by then!!

Hi All,

bunny2 and Flossam - a friend of mine leaked loads of milk while she was pg, so much that her nightie was soaked most mornings, and she bf-ed her dd really sucessfully, exclusively until she was weaned and then until she was about 12months. I hope this is reassuring!

I'm on the verge of a large falling out with my sister who told me that because I'm planning a home birth I should send ds to our mum's for a few days while I give birth and that I shouldn't have the baby in my lovely, clean, private, newly-decorated loft conversion in case I have to be stretchered out. This is from a woman who has no children! One of the main reasons I want a home birth is so that I don't have to leave ds while I'm in hospital and so he can meet his new brother as soon as possible after he's born. The last thing I want to do is send him away! And honestly, while I may have complications, I can't believe I'll go from normal active labour to being completely unable to walk with no notice, and if things are looking dodgy I'll come downstairs at that time. I'll have this baby wherever I bloody want! I'm really upset and angry with her, but because I'm all hormonal I can't face having it out with her because I'll only end up more upset and angry.

And to add insult to injury I seem to have developed piles.

I hope you've all had a better day than me! viv xx

vivie why do people who dont have children think they are qualified to give advice??? A freind of mine does this and it drives me mad. She also gives me relationship advice despite never hanging onto a boyfriend for more than a few days. Only you know what is best for you and your family. I'd love a homebirth but probably wont be able to for various reasons. Does your mw support your choice?

My stretchmarks have made a very unwelcome reappearance and I had no less than 7 trip to the toilet during the night. How much longer do we have?

Vivie, you do what you want. And like you say, you can have a change of plan if things are not working out. Know what you mean about hormones, DH's best mate was staying at the weekend and he is just about the most obnoxious, self centred git I have ever known. He completely takes over the place, hogging hte remote control, checking the football scores on teletext whilst I'm watching something. A couple of times I looked at him and he realised what he was doing, but other than that I was in such a state I couldn't face even starting on him. So instead I just kept myself to myself and got all upset in private. Oh, it's mainly hormones, but I do know DH is happy to see him, so it's worth it for a short weekend. Once we're confident non-pregnant ladies, this will all seem like a distant memory...

Hey, I got cramp in my leg last night. I have never had it before, and I tell you what, I have never felt pain like it (not sure I will say that in 3 months time). Anyone know what teh best thing to do with cramp is? DH was great and massaged my leg, and I pointed my leg and circled my ankle. Am scared of it happening again though.

Got piles, heartburn, clicky hips, nightmares, frequent visits to toilet, really active baby that kicks all night, and stretch marks must be soon as my belly feels like it is going to burst. But in all honesty, my pregnancy is going great, and I'm loving it (not the above obviously).

Hope you lovely girls are all doing ok

PP, the cramps are excruciating arent they? I get them most mornings and it makes me cry as my foot goes into spasm and I cant move. It is to do with lack of sodium apparantly which doesnt help me as I have been told to watch my salt intake. My DH looks at me helplessly until I screech at him to massage my leg.......I feel for him as it is hard to know what to do when someone is in pain.

Heaven help me in natural child birth!!!!

Have hideous backpain and heartburn and was in a car accident on Tuesday (my fault) and cried all day. Ds who is 2 and a half kept saying 'Dont cry Mummy!' which made me worse.

Apart from that all is OK and I am enjoying this PGy.

I asked my mw about cramps and she said to try sipping tonic water - but the last thing you want to do is have a drink just before bed because then you have to pee even more times..... Apparently the quinine helps. Also stretching the muscle helps, so when your calf cramps try pushing your toes towards your shins and try not to point your toes.

The home birth was my mw's idea and she's really enthusiastic about it. In my area for uncomplicated pgs we have 'midwifery led care' which means that all my antenatal care is provided by my community mw, she will deliver my baby if I have home birth and she will continue to visit us regularly at home after the birth for up to a month, when the hv will take over. I have the same mw this time as I did with ds, and I have a great relationship with her. I'm really lucky to have such great care. I wish everyone did.

It's bad enough when people who do have kids offer unwanted advice, but when they don't it's even worse! PP, I know what you mean, if you start to tell someone that they're upsetting you, you get all tearful and can't explain yourself properly, and it all gets really embarrassing and messy. I just can't face it with my sister but at the same time she's my sister, it's not the first time she's upset me recently and I know I should clear the air before this baby gets here. DH is absolutely furious with her.

Hi all. Quite quiet on here still. I guess we are all starting to feel the weight of our third trimester

I;ve got a stinkin cold and am off work. Feeling really sorry for myself as I can't sleep and have that horrible cotton wool head, congested and not sweats. Am hoping a couple of days off will sort it out. I don't think I've been off sick before from this job, and have been there for 5 years! Does anyone else feel like a skiiver (sp?) when they are off sick? I am bored stiff doing nothing, and trying to recover, but know I could not do my job properly if I was at work. Oh well, more TV and naps on the sofa... Good news, no cramps since my last episode - the tonic water must be working Vivie. And other pregnancy ailments seem to have paled now that I have something real to be moaning about with this cold (not a good patient really).

Twinkie. I'm hoping to come to the central london meet up next week, so hopefully see you there.

Tis very quiet on here.

Am feeling really big now but everyone keeps telling me how well and small I look, and also the midwife wrote that my fundal height was 28 on my paperwork last week (I am 30 weeks), and she didn't even measure me! She also took lots of blood and more because I am rehesus negative and they need to check the antibodies. Am sending DH to give blood tonight whether he likes it or not, so I can be 100% certain that we are incompatible (he he!) with our blood types, so I know for sure that if I have anti D its because I really need it.

Having lots of Braxton Hicks which is fun!

Began to decorate baby's room over the weekend which is a weight off my mind as I like to be really organised and we are pretty busy for the next couple of weeks so won't have time to do it them.

Its DD's birthday Friday (she will be 2) so that's exciting!

I am really looking forward to the birth and evrything now. I have made lots of adjustments so that DD doesn't feel pushed out (like I have potty trained her, we weaned her off her dummy in January, she has been in a bed for the last year) - lots of handy tips from other mnetters!

Hope everyone else is ok.

x

ps. Collision - how are you after your car accident?

wow Mum2Ela, you are sooooo organised - I'm really impressed! and well done getting your dd potty trained! I'm leaving ds until next spring (he's 2 in Nov) because he's nowhere near ready yet and I can't face dealing with wet pants and a newborn at the same time. Maybe I'm just being a coward!

You poor thing PotPourri, your cold sounds nasty. Hope you're feeling better soon.

Hope this thread is so quiet because everyone's feeling so content

Been very busy here - lots of appts between dd and I. We have started a new playgroup for children with special needs - dd loved it especially the music time... she loves music and dances like crazy - she comes up with the most original dance moves.

This week has been quieter - thank goodness.. I was worn out last week. Weather has been quite warm here - hottest, driest winter on record.... luckily the last couple of days have been rainy and a bit cooler!!! Although they are predicting a warm spring and very hot summer... thank goodness this babe is due at the start of summer.

Glad to hear everyone is relatively okay - sorry to hear about your cold PP - I used to feel like that when I had time off but then figured no one thanked me for going that extra mile and going into work... and it was all still there for me when I got back.... lots of telly and naps and take it easy.

Am huge and have had enough although I still have 8 weeks to go. How is everyone with packing for hospital... I think I started early as I was not ready last time when I had dd 2 weeks early!! The baby's bag is packed but not mine.... here we have to take everything in for the baby - and as I am not sure if I will be in for a day or up to 5 days - that means a lot of stuff... right down to pillowcases to cover the matresses in the little cribs!!

We are also decorating here but have to do dd's room first so we can move her in and then start on the baby's room - both rooms just need a fresh coat of paint and we need some furniture for dd's room.... but I am making blinds and curtains for the rooms whilst dh is doing the painting. Hopefully that will all be finished in the next couple of weeks.

Off to the beach for a long weekend this weekend... looking forward to taking it easy and lounging by and in the pool. My db has offered to take dd surfing - she is only 2 - but he says you need to start early - no doubt she will love it and I will be there with my heart in my mouth the whole time!!!!

Good Morning everyone! September 1 today and do you realise that the month after next we will all be parents again!!!!! AAARRRGGGHHH!! Just joking! I think my nesting instinct is about to kick in again and I feel the need to sort some things out.

Am fine after accident, thanks. Just annoyed now that the premium will go up. Oh well.

Hi All. I can't believe how organised you are. I've got 10 weeks to go and we've done nothing to prepare for this baby. We've still got DD's bedroom to decorate, and have to get her into her big bed - have done the potty training as well though, which was amazingly easy with her! Not only that we had a disaster at the weekend, our shower had leaked everywhere, and has brought the ceiling down in the kitchen! Nightmare - now at nearly 7 months pregnant, and sore with my SPD I'm having to climb in and out of the bath to get washed.

Oh well, other than that I'm very well. We had a fab bank holiday weekend, friends came to visit with their 4 and 1 year old DDs and we took them to Windsor for the day. It was really nice, but I also realised that now is about the time you have to start listening to your body, and slow down a bit!!

Glad to hear everyone else is ok. Am I the most disorganised person on this thread, or have others not started to prepare yet?

Hi everyone. I'm lucky in that ds 2 is going into the room we used as a nursery for ds 1 who moved into a new room earlier this year (when we moved him to a bed), so we don't have to do any decorating. Potty training isn't happening though! He just doesn't want to at the moment it seems.

The pelvic pain is still there, worse some days than others. If I do nothing all day then it doesn't hurt too much! I cancelled my appointment with docs (silly me!) because at the time it really hadn't bothered me much for several days and my GP has been away so it was a different doctor who I don't like much. But I mentioned it to the m/w who was rather dismissive, and now it is bad again. So I shall have to go back to my GP who is now back from her hols. I don't expect there is much that can be done but I'm hoping they might give me a better support belt (the one I have is good for back pain but not particularly supportive of my pelvis). I can't believe I've still got 12-13 weeks to go (collision, we might not be parents again till December as I'm due 25th Nov and ds1 was 6 days late ).

How did you get on with the physiotherapy, PandaBear?

I am supposed to be going to the hospital tomorrow for my anti-D.

Everything else is OK. Talking of being organised, I am trying to start my Christmas shopping! With ds2 due so close to Christmas, and ds1's birthday in December too I think I shall have to start in September every year from now on!!

Gingernut - have they tested your blood and told you your antibodies are high which is why you need anti-D? I had my bloods done last week and if the antibody levels are low I will only (possibly) need anti-D when baby is born. I think they give it out too willy-nilly but my midwife assures me they only give it when necessary (funny, a coleague of hers who is also my neighbour, agress with me!). I am sending DH off to give blood to find out his blood type so that I know if I need it its because I really need it. Unlike my mum, who had 5 children and a miscarriage, and she was given anti-D every time, even though my mum and dad have the same blood group!! Unbelieveable!!

eidsvold - am very jealous that you get to spend lots of time at the beach. Where has our Summer gone here in the UK? I must have blinked and missed it!!

Well my neighbour (a midwife) felt my belly last night (the midwife at ante-natel last week didn't bother) and, hey-ho, baby is back to back with mine feet down at the mo. Am spending lots of time on all fours (snigger!) to get the little monkey to move!!

DD seems to have become an insomniac, was up from 2.30 - 5am this morning! She must be getting me ready for the new baby's arrival! Have to admit I got very angry with her and shouted a bit :(.

Hi Gingernut - sounds like you have exactly the same as I do, it definitely hurts more when I've been active! Physio has helped - they found my hips were slightly misaligned, and the ligaments in my inside thighs were "knotted". They've also given me some helpful advice.. I'll see if I can remember it all for you to use:

1. Reduce weight bearing activities to a minimum - e.g. shopping, housework etc.
2. Rest
3. If you have a toddler, encourage him/her to stand on a chair before lifting
4. Don't do breaststroke if you go swimming.
5. Turning over in bed, go onto all fours rather than turning over via your back
6. Wear a belly support belt
7. Pelvic floor exercises
8. If it hurts when you climb stairs, do it one at a time.
9. Getting in and out of the car and getting out of bed, keep knees together and swing them round, don't do one leg at a time
10. Avoid standing on one leg e.g. when getting dressed, sit on the side of the bed.

That's all I can remember now. There were other points to bear in mind when you are in labour, I can tell you those at a later stage, if you want. but I guess the best thing is to get your doctors to recognise that you are suffering and refer you for help!!

Thanks you two. Mum2Ela, I rang for my blood test results earlier and the antibody screen was normal so I don't think I really need the anti-D. I have been researching the issue while ds has been napping - NICE guidance says it is mostly an issue for women who are likely to go on to have more children (which I'm not planning to do). This is because the main reason for having antenatal prophylaxis is that it reduces the failure rate of postnatal prophylaxis (from 1.5% to 0.2% which equates to 1000 women per year to 140). If I were intending to have more children I would be considering it, but as it is I'm not keen. No-one has really counselled me (which is in breach of the NICE guidance!). The m/w I saw last week wanted me to go tomorrow but I want to consider this for a bit longer before making a decision. Of course, there is the possibility of having a silent bleed - that is the only reason for having antenatal prophylaxis as far as I can see.

PandaBear, thanks for the advice. The m/w said some of the same things and I had already been doing some anyway because I found it hurt less. I rarely pick up ds now anyway. I get him to climb into the bath for e.g. using a little stool, and he is in a bed rather than a cot so no problems there. Hadn't thought of going onto all fours to turn over in bed though - that must be quite tricky. I think dh may decide to move to the spare room soon! I have been getting him to help me turn over (if he's awake!), he turns my hips slowly and gently which makes things a lot easier.

Gingernut - I thought perhaps they would give e anti-d at about 36 weeks in case of a silent bleed but they said they won't. I had it with DD at 35 weeks as I bled and they didn't know whether it was a show or other bleeding. They also gave it to me the day I had DD which m/w assures me they would have taken blood and checked for antibodies and so they gave it to me becos I needed it, but I am inclined to think they gave it to me without checking my antibodies. Cynical, moi?

Hi everyone! I'm supposed to be having the anti D too, but have got on my soap box a bit about it as I don't want to have it. I got the impression at my hospital that everyone rhesus negative got it routinely. I thought I was due to have it about now, but nothing has been mentioned as yet. I know my bloods from a couple of weeks ago are completely clear ( i can check on the computer at work! ). DP went and gave blood a few weeks ago to find out his blood group, still waiting to find out the results from that though.

Everything else here is pretty much fine, starting to work myself up about moving flats in less two months time, cleaning, organising and streamlining exercises have already started!! Really hope we find a nice little home for our new little family!

Have started counting down the number of shifts at work, about 24 at the moment as I work long days! Once I get to 20 is when it will become really exciting. Finding being there quite tiring already though. Had to get down on the floor twice every hour for three days in a row, thats around 72 times!!! A very elegant and ladylike vision I was too, trying to heave myself up again!! I really feel for you Gingernut and PandaBear, it must be so painful, I don't think I could do my job if I was suffering from that. Hope you are ok.