Due in June.....fill the rest in yourselves if we offend you so much

[hollyandalice]

Happy now???

I haven't got that funny belly button thing this time daisy, but I had something similar last time. I think it was due to the skin thinning and the muscle stretching.

Think it mught be the muscle as it feels kind of internal. I can feel a little vertical indentation above my belly button so it's probably my abdominal muscle stretching.....gawd...feels like it's all about to burst out of there!!

Thanks for the micros Foxy, you domestic goddess, you . I've just off and measured the depth of the steriliser so can compare with the listed dims.....

Ouch emoticon for you foxy.

Cheered up a bit after a huge bowl of spaghetti and some marshmallows (not together though yuk! )

Spa was lovely. Had a massage, then yoga, then pedicure which was fab, now my toes look lovely, and finally an Elemis facial, so I look all fresh faced. It was really nice, the only disappointing thing is the spa pool area wasn't open (which is a good thing because I would either have just been so fed up that I could use it or the steam area, or I would have gone in the pool and then felt guilty the whole time about what damage I was doing to the baby - I'm already panicking because I think I've been having too hot baths, but I just love to wallow!). The other weird thing is that while I wasn't having treatments I was lounging around reading in a robe that they provide. Normally I'm not shy at all but I felt very self conscious, I don't know if it's because I'm pg and feeling vulnerable and self conscious bout how my body has changed, or maybe it's because my (male) yoga teacher works there and was around and I felt weird about being practically naked underneath the robe with someone I know. But then we are all naked under our clothes anyway and I wear less to yoga than a huge terry toweling robe, so that seems irrational.

Anyway, I'm waffling now, it's all this sugar! I need to step away from the marshmallows! Oh and I also spent a small fortune (but money left over from birthday) on products she used in the facial - I'm such a sucker for nice toiletries!

Hey!

Just caught up on this afternoons goings ons!

PMSL that I was 'Quoted' on THAT other thread Feelin a bit famous now!

Anyhow......
AN class was as expected - pictures of fanjos etc etc and lots of mentions of the word 'vagina' which makes me cringe!
Did get sweaty hands and think I was gona up chuck at one point but managed to compose myself.
Not sure if I can cope with 5 more sessions?
Still not accepting the fact that I'm pregnant (am in total denial!) and feeling like this is all a wierd dream! (cue - 'she doesn't love her baby' rants from the shouty mnetters!!!).

Feeling freaked out to be honest!

foxy this (HUG) is for you. It can all be so stressful sometimes. Get some sleep, if you can. A nice bath might help that along (just be careful getting out!)

as for the section, well, I'd planned on one originally in order to avoid the trauma of my not-so-plinkity-plonk-wonderful-natural-birth last time round when DS ended up in a rush to SCBU. That reason is still valid, in my mind. However I'm now wondering how the hell I'm going to cope with DS (who isn't even walking yet) afterward, when I've got a wound from CS. Not like natural birth leaves you in stunning condition of course, (remember the piles discussion - yuck -sorry) but for his sake, I feel I ought to give natural birth a go, so I can hold him and cuddle him and generally be his mama as he knows me. Or maybe it's just guilt in general getting the best of me now, you know, the hating the whole idea of 'giving in' to a CS when I 'should' have it naturally. WHY do I care? How do I know it would work this time round?? AAAAAAUUUUGHHHHHHH

Lilkel...I've opted for a trial of vaginal (sorry DKMA), with the option open for a c-section should the need arise, but have been re-assured they wouldn't let me go as long this time around without intervening. Then the op would be conducted in relative calmness, not the all out emergency it was last time.

Maybe you could discuss that with them before hand?

Seansgirl - yay, well done, I am delighted for you, but envious of the home birth!

Derlor - poor ds, I had it when I was 11, give him loads of icecream....

Holly - clever dd on the hairclip. You have made me laugh and laugh about tracking dh, must get one of those!

DKMAFME - I feel exactly the same way as you, honest, if it is any comfort. I keep thinking 'only two months to go', yay I can wear normal clothes, get pissed etc, totally forgetting I am going to have a baby in tow!I have my antenatal a week on Saturday, and am dreading it....were the fanjos excessively hairy cos that will set me and dh off!

my H is going up against Holly's tonight for the biggest twunt award!!!!!!
normally my H is fab but today after all that has gone on with DS being ill and me being up for 3 hours with him last night and dd being hypertastic and him working late for 3 days in a row so he has not actually seen his LO's since Sunday - he got in at 1930 LO's excited - even DS really perked up. THEN at 2000 he left the house to go to his mates to watch the fucking football!!!!!! - i ask you WTF is that about???????
TWUNTYTWUNTYTWUNTY.
i am but also and feel really let down - couldn't even look at him as he was leaving cause i was trying not to let him see that i was crying.
sorry for moaning.

lilkel, don't feel guilty - you are not 'giving in' to a c-section. You have to it how you feel right - you just have to decide what that is. Do it for you. I can understand that you are worried about DS, will you have any other help around afterwards? Sorry I can't offer any more advice as not done this before - but I do know that we bloody beat ourselves up over so many things that we shouldn't, just do what you feel is right.

DKMA, sorry you re feeling freaked out. I was pretty much constantly like that until about 2 weeks ago. Not sure what th turning point was, but having some time off work to relax certainly helped, now I am actually feeling excited about having a baby, which I wasn't in the slightest before. That said we had our 1st antenatal class on monday and a tour round the labour unit, and that was a big fat reality check and freaked me out a bit too. Hope you feel a bit better about things soon.

Oops....off to watch the apprentice...maybe check inlater...

Bumper, the spa sounds lovely, but I know what you mean about your yoga instructor. I used to work in a bar and one of my customers, who I fancied a bit, was an attendant at the local pool. I used to swim and exercise there and he would always come over for a chat.... it made me feel decidedly odd!

Derlor - have a hug, you are having a shite day. What is it about bloody football? Or other preoccupations? My dh hates football but spends nine hours a day looking at the stock market!

Sounds like fun DKMA!! I love looking at pics of fanjos (NOT)! The word vagina makes my skin crawl too! Yeuch!

I don't know what to say lilkel! I can see both sides of your birth crisis. I think the thing is to ask yourself is if you'll regret not giving a natural birth a go. Maybe talk to your dr and mw about it. Maybe you could see how the natural thing goes and if at any time you feel out of control or that things aren't going well you can say enough and have a cs. I don't know if they'll let you do that, but it may be worth asking. Hope you come to the right decision for you and your bubs!

Derlor.....big hugs to you my sweets....I'd double lock the doors tonight so he has to sleep in the car!!

"a nice bath" you trying to be funny Lilkel?
just joking, your kind words are appreciated xx

I had no idea how difficult a c-section birth it. A friend of mine is due to have her 3rd cs in a week or two and having spoken to her I realised I had no appreciation of what was involved. I have friends who have vbacs and gone on to another too.

You don't have to do anything you don't want to do. If you are worried about DS you can at least plan childcare etc around that date, and won't be disappearing in the middle of the night if you go into labour. you'll know when it will be done and by whom.

Like Daisy said, why not explore it as an option? There's no shoulds or shouldn'ts, just what is right for you.

Poor derlor! Hope our men are less twunty tomorrow! I think we all need to go to bed and let this day of hell pass! I really hope your ds is feeling better and you can at least get a bit of rest (((more hugs)))!

at your DH derlor! How sad for your LOs. Is he a man u fan? It would serve him right that they are losing if he is! Sorry you feel so , we are all having a bit of a few days of it aren't we? That damn thread today didn't help. Sending happy and get well soon vibes to everyone! Do you all just look forward to being yourselves again? Instead of these big balls of hormonal, uncomfortable whinging messes? Not that I saying that's what any of you are (back tracking v quickly) but you know what I mean - everything just seems so much harder at the moment, and I know we have all only 'known' each other while pg, but I bet we all deal with things a bit better normally.

Btw - I am so NOT watching any videos at my antenatal classes. I don't need to see anyone else's fanjo thanks v much, can't even see my own at the moment!

oh derlor! don't be sad. you've had a horrible day. you need a good sleep

Oh bloody hell Daisy - thanks for reminding me the apprentice is on. won't be off to bed for ages now. tut!

Am I a wrong un for really fancying Henry from Ugly Betty?! He is of the tall skinny geek variety, so maybe my lustings are justified!

Thanks for support ladies!

Doggus - yes the fanjos were hairy! Why do they do that? It would be so much less sickening if they had pictures of groomed fanjos rather than overgrown ones!

Is it the 'day of the dickheads' or something today? What with all the kerfuffle earlier, and all these DH/DP's playing up - whats going on!

Must keep our chins up and 'don't let the fuckers get you down' is what I say (when I'm not crying / throwing something / screaming like a banshie etc etc...)

I think it's the full moon DKMA!!

i'm with everyone else - chat this through with your MW/consultant and then do what is best for all of you

The reason they only how you hairy fanjos is because only earth mother, lentil weaving, muesli knitting, non-shaving types let people take pics of their fanjos! Us well groomed types don't let cameras anywhere near! There are obvious exceptions, like my friend who made me watch her birth video !

DKMA - any with varicous veins, was thinking of posting a pic of mine on my profile

its trim, at least.

OMG TMI

That should be show you hairy fanjos!

i'm even more now, is that who is playing?? he doesn't even follow English fucking football -