July 2017 #5 - Third Trimester is Here!

[Notyetthere]

5th thread!

Going by the pace of ‘Thread #4’, this could the last one as we might all have our babies by the time it runs out. Unless we all give detailed commentary during labour .

Link to the last one
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/2866245-Due-July-2017-4-Well-into-2nd-Trimester-20-Week-Scans-and-Bumps-Galore?pg=1

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glitter thankyou.... just had a google and agree, don't think I should actually get too caught up on how engaged she is, your right, it says lots of babies don't till actual labour.
not I have had loose poos for about a week (which is a nice break from constipation) but this sounds very promising for you!!! Fingers crossed!!
butterfly like you, also had a name since we found out gender, weirdly DH refers to her as her name but I'm still saying "she" or "the baby". What a relief your insurance has been sorted!
I'm taking a break from slobbing on the sofa in my pants eating ice lollies today and going to get some bedding for the carrycot of the pram.... I Totally forgot this. Presuming Moses basket bedding works for carrycot?! I just want a mattress protector and some fitted sheets for it.

We've got a pillowcase for a sheet in the carry cot - Moses basket fitted sheets didn't fit.

I mean, for a bottom sheet. Then an unfitted Moses basket sheet / blanket on top.

Ah right thanks spindelina I'll go for Unfitted Moses sheet then!! Think I've seen them in Tesco for a couple of quid so I'll try there.

We have chosen a name each for each gender but are waiting to decide on final names once baby is chosen. We were going to do the same with DS, though we knew he was a boy, but a friend of DH's with one of the names died unexpectedly while I was pregnant, so that kind of helped us choose.

butterfly great news about the insurance. I'm sure that's a weight of your mind.

we've chosen a name and this time round i've not minded people knowing because i couldn't give 2 hoots what they think. Last time I kept it quiet but DH told his Dad and before we knew it everyone knew which made me really mad because then I felt oblidged to tell my family otherwise all the in laws would have knows and my lot wouldn't. felt trapped then and that I had to keep the name choice (not that I planned on changing it but still lol)

@twixes personally if you know it's close to a name she likes then I wouldn't choose it, especially considering fertility issues. My close friend is still going through fertility issues and when we were chatting about names (before we knew gender) and I said I liked Theo/theodore she said it was one of her fave names I promised I wouldn't use it. It would be bad enough feeling like everyone around you is having babies and if someone used your dream name would it not feel like they were stealing your life a bit? might sound dramatic but I know it's a sensitive issue. Usually I wouldn't be arsed and i'd use whatever name I liked but with someone so close whose not having an easy ride I thought it fair to not twist the knife. As it turns out were having a girl and her names are nothing like anything I would choose so there was no danger of clashing there lol. Bit different if you've never discussed names though. and I realise I might be a bit against the grain with my view, feel free to ignore lol

@rhodes2015 if you find some mattress protectors for carycot let me know. Last time I used folded muslins as protection instead and just used to whipe them off and put a fresh one down. might use something a bit more permanent this time (although I dont even have a moses basket) although I don't want baby getting all sweaty with a plasticky protector hmm.

After things were looking brighter yesterday and I was feeling more positive, it's all taken a turn for the worse today 😔

DH had his passport confiscated at the military base by a particularly nasty officer who was handling his registration this morning. Apparently he's considered an 'absconding' risk due to the fact that he has a foreign wife and a 10-year UK visa. Also, British isn't one of the nationalities they consider dangerous as a military wife, so the tactic we were going to try for him to be disqualified from the service due to having a foreign spouse is not an option.

He still has a chance to be graded as Level 5 due to his injuries, but the Eid public holiday has now started today and will last until 2nd July!!!!! So nothing will be known or done until then. He can't even complain to anyone more senior about the passport confiscation until then either.

I'm beside myself to be honest. Not even sure I want to get out of bed today, I'm feeling so so miserable and lost. If we had known this would be a possibility (for him to get called up to military service now) then I would never have come to London to give birth here. I can't bear the thought that I probably won't see him again until a month or so after the baby is born. Prior to this the longest we'd ever spent apart since getting married was 4 days. I don't have many friends as it is, and certainly none in London anymore... DH is my best friend and my support; we do everything and go everywhere together. I can't believe I'm facing the most emotional and life-changing weeks of my life without him now 😓💔

Apologies for the melodrama - let's keep blaming it on the hormones! At least the temperature is a little more manageable today... Searching for something good in the midst of a bad day...

Oh @ButterflyFree I wish I lived closer to you. You sound like you're really going through the wringer at the moment. Very unmumsnetty hug

Just try and focus that it's not forever. Easier said than done I know. Just take time for yourself, your baby and your mental health. Your mum is with you and we are all here if you need anything.

Oh @ButterflyFree that's absolutely awful. And you're not being melodramatic at all - I can't imagine being separated from my husband at such a life changing moment in life. My heart is breaking for you both!

Not sure I can offer any words of wisdom which will help at all. Try to keep positive and try to keep busy although I can imagine neither are easy right now.

Thank you @glitterglitters @CatRash 💐 the ladies on this thread are honestly so lovely and the moral support is much appreciated.

Gosh, I hadn't thought about sheets/bedding for the carry cot in the pram 😅 shows how clueless I am... I got the 'starter pack' for the Mima Xari, which includes mattress but no sheets - will I need a base sheet to go on top of that then?! Something else to add to the shopping list if so.

Regarding naming etiquette... I understand why people get very attached to and territorial about names; it's something so personal and permanent - a big responsibility naming a human! We had to choose an Arabic name so by default the name pool is much smaller, and I was a bit nervous when I knew my SIL was also having a boy as it was perfectly possible that she may have chosen the same name, but luckily she hasn't. We've gone for a slightly unusual Arabic name (not the standard Mohammed/Ahmed/Rashid anyway...), but one that's also easy to pronounce in English as it doesn't contain any letters or sounds that aren't already in the English alphabet. It's bad enough having an Arabic surname that nobody from my side of the family can pronounce, so we definitely didn't want to saddle our son with the same fate for his first name!

. @Twixes I think as it's not exactly the same name it should be fine, although I can imagine there's extra sensitivity due to the fertility struggle... In an ideal scenario it would be wonderful if your sister gets pregnant soon and you end up with two lovely little cousins who have complementary names. It'd be quite cute I think, but I'm not sure everyone would agree with me. I can certainly see your dilemma.

Radio silence from not has me thinking something exciting is happenig!! 😬

Butterfly so sorry to hear of all that... must be so hard I can't even begin to try and understand. Maybe try and take your kind of these by getting your baby list together and doing some shopping so you feel prepared and have control over some part of it all xx

Radio silence from not has me thinking something exciting is happenig!! 😬

this!!! ^^ no pressure on your fanjo not

Thank you @LuciBee231015 💐 yes definitely going to try and occupy myself with numerous trips to Peter Jones stocking up on baby stuff. Very good point you made - it will probably help me if I at least feel I'm 'controlling the controllable'.

I was thinking the same thing - @Notyetthere has been conspicuous by her absence today! Fingers crossed it means some lovely news is on the way 🙏🏻😍

@ButterflyFree show us what you buy! I've not been able to buy a lot this time (or the first time due to an over excited mother in law) so am a sucker for teeny baby stuff!!!!

@glitterglitters Here's some of the cute stuff I got from My 1st Years yesterday 😩😍

Just blurred out the rest of the embroidery of Baby Z's name as I don't want to announce it properly until he arrives (although everyone who knows us already knows it...), but I can confirm it is NOT Zayn 😅

Butterfly i defo don't think you're being melodramatic. Can't even imagine how tough it is. My dh might only be going to Reading for a couple of days and i've told him i'll be mega annoyed if I go into labour and he's not here (he seems to assume that because I was over due last time that he's loads of time on his hands lol). Wish I wasn't at the other end of the country to you, we're all here for you to vent. hugs

oooo the silence from not is exciting : D

Boss still hasn't answered me on bringing my leave date forward to next Friday....I wonder if they realise i'm just not going to be on the 3rd regardless. i'm pretty sure i'm within my rights to change my date but I just want to know if they're paying me the holidays they owe or bringing my mat date forward so I know what to expect to get paid.

Omg that stuff is soooo cute! I love the Panda 

You're 100% within your rights @mynameisntLinda it's so frustrating when you can't get an answer though. It's like "yes I know it's not your priority, but it's certainly mine!"

@glitterglitters yeah I thought so. well I won't be in on the 3rd anyway so :p lol.
HV is coming for sons 2 year review on the 3rd, i'll prob have another MW appointment and the Friday i've got an ECG booked so i might as well be off with the amount of appointments i'm having. Plus i defo won't be in if i'm induced anyway. It's no different than if I just went into labour is it really, they'd have to sort out pay/holidays.

@butterflyfree too cute 😍 (now I just want to guess names beginning with Z lol)

@ButterflyFree definitely not being melodramatic! You're in an awful situation that's not fair! If you're ever venturing into Kent let me know. The personalised bits are gorgeous!

Ooh I hope the silence from not is what we think! Fingers crossed!

Yes @ButterflyFree it you're in Hampshire at all give us a shout (if you can put up with a melodramatic toddler!) 😂

@ButterflyFree you poor thing! This must be so distressing for you. How can they confiscate his passport??? Surely that's illegal? Even in the army?

Thanks girls for your feedback on my name dilemma. I spoke to my mum about it (without telling her the name) and she didn't think she'd be that upset about it and told me how my sis thought friends of hers were being ridiculous for having favourite names others couldn't use.

Anyway, I've decided I'm going to have to talk to her in person about it. I might even call out tonight after DS is in bed. It's really playing on my mind now and I won't be able to gauge her reaction properly over the phone.

In other news I bought some more newborn and size 1-2 month vests in H&M. I'm delighted with them as they button down the front but over to the side which I find much easier to get onto a newborn than the over-the-heads/button under the crotch ones iykwim.

I also had an appointment with my consultant which went really well, baby is currently estimated to weigh 6lbs 3oz! She was very reassuring about the c-section which was great. I asked could I get a general anaesthetic as I'm starting to worry quite a bit about it and she said it'd be fine, I won't see anything and they can give me something to calm me if I need it! Phew...

Gosh ladies how kind you all are 💐 thank you thank you @glitterglitters @nat2311 @mynameisntLinda

It's reassuring to know I'm not massively overreacting! I don't like the thought of being a drama queen, pregnancy hormones or not...

Yes @Twixes I believe it technically is illegal, but unfortunately it seems DH was dealing with an officer on a serious power trip today, and what with the timing of the long Eid holiday he doesn't have the chance to challenge the decision with anyone of a higher rank until 2nd July. So we're in limbo at least until then. I'm glad your consultant appointment went well and that you're feeling good about your options for the c-section. Also glad to hear your DM's reaction to the name dilemma - I think going to talk to your sister about it will be the best thing for you to do because otherwise it just won't stop bothering you, and you may well be fretting about it completely unnecessarily.

Just to add insult to injury today... I received a perplexing email from (what I thought was) my health insurance provider in response to all the documents I sent them yesterday in order to get the payment authorisation for my maternity package at C&W. The email said that my last policy with them expired in May and has NOT been renewed. The new policy number I quoted to them was not recognised.

So I contacted DH's club secretary to check if he had given me the wrong policy number by mistake, and guess what... it turns out the club has changed to a different health insurance provider, so it was not in fact a renewal of my previous policy! I hurriedly checked the new insurance company's policy details online and to my dismay they only cover up to HALF the value of Overseas Maternity care that my previous policy did. So we will unexpectedly have to supplement 50% from our own pockets. I also found all this out too late in the day and everyone has already packed up and left their offices to start the Eid holiday, so I wouldn't be able to get the authorisation until at least 2nd July anyway. That means I'll be paying the full whack of the £8k deposit tomorrow and then going through the joy of paperwork to claim it back later 😓

At this rate I don't know whether to laugh or cry!! But I'm lounging in bed watching the Queens Club tennis on TV and eating a strawberry Cornetto, so it's not all bad 🍦😩

@ButterflyFree if there was ever a day to order in your favourite food or go out for something nice today is that day.

Go get a huge cake or big old ice cream and watch a soppy film ❤️

@butterflyfree arghhhhhh what a frustrating day you are having! Unbelievable on the power trip military guy and even more annoying on the insurance front. But at least you can afford it and I am sure the paperwork will be sorted in time so just write it off for now and concentrate on you and baby's wellbeing.

You are not being melodramatic I completely understand how you feel, the thought of not having my OH with me does make me feel very vulnerable. But you do have your mum and a familiar surrounding.

Don't feel isolated as others have said we are here and I think we must live close to each other so if you are up for it we could meet for a tea/ice cream or a shopping trip in Peter Jones. Maybe on Saturday? I think they are on sale now...

Also maybe join a baby yoga class? I go to one in Putney every Saturday morning which is truly lovely. You are welcomed to join me if you like! Look up Yoga mama.

Also look up calm birth school they seem to do some nice online hypnobirthibg videos which might help you relax and cope. :)

@mynameisnotlynda how cheeky not to reply, you are well within your rights, so don't be shy so chase a response. Do you have a HR? If so just deal directly with them.

They can't withhold holiday or maternity pay so don't you let that get to you.

On the names front we had a baby boy name for years!! Never told anyone what it is and have kept it secret as I am not interested in anyone's opinions. My family are going crazy that we haven't told them and my FIL keeps making suggestions. It quite fun to watch them all try and guess.

Had our NCT breastfeeding session today, learned a lot I feel like I knew nothing. Worried I will forget but hopefully the key bits of info will stay!

I am so sleepy as last few nights have barely managed more than 2 hours straight of sleep so I am off to a thankfully cool nap!

Speak later ladies

@Mawita what a sweetheart you are - thank you for the lovely message and suggestions. I'll definitely look up Yoga Mama; sounds great and the location is very convenient for me too ☺️

Would you mind if I add you from the FB group so we could liaise about a tea/ice cream/shopping meet sometime? I only access MN from the app and there's no PM functionality...

And you're absolutely right, we are very fortunate to be in a position where we are able to self-pay for the maternity care now and claim it (well, some of it 🙄) back later; I can't imagine how stressful the situation would be if we had been solely relying on the health insurance cover. So even in these trying circumstances there's still plenty to be thankful for 🙏🏻

I was hoping to find news of @Notyetthere Jnr when I checked the thread tonight, but fingers crossed the silence means she is far too high on oxytocin and newborn snuggles to update us yet! ❤️ So excited about how close the big day is getting for all of us...

Hope everyone manages to get a good night's sleep with the much cooler atmosphere tonight ✨