Due in Sept '07 - part 3 - The Blooming Stage !?!

[canadianmum]

Due to recent sad news and at the suggestion of others, I have started this new thread. Let's hear everyone's news.......

Said goodbye to my ILs today - it was a lovely visit (which doesn't always happen) esp as MIL cooked dinner last night and there is enough for the db's tonight.

Still being sick though not half as often and really very well as long as I take my medication. This is a vast improvement on the 10 separate hospital admissions with ds1 .

Have messed up my 16wk bloods (by forgetting to remake the appt that I had to cancel as I was away) and am 17wks today. Do have tiny intermittent movements and looking forward to 20wk scan which isn't too long now.

Waiting for the surveyor to write back with the estimates as have decided it would be good to spend my mat leave supervising major house renovations.

Hope all are well post Easter (still not really on sweet things so lots of chocolate going to waste in our house atm).

Is anyone still getting cramps? I know that first timers like me are supposed to get some cramping as the uterus expands, but I'm still getting them. Are they supposed to last this long? I'm 17 weeks tomorrow...

Mrs Mar, I'm cramping again after a break from it - as bump is growing daily, I put it down to that.
Sophus - grandparent ground rules sound like a wise move!
Families, eh. [grinds teeth into chocolate egg] I've just bought 'Birth and Beyond' for my brother and his DP, who are expecting in July. I haven't met her yet, and I'm worried she may think I'm being a [fill as appropriate with family discord] SIL-to-be, but I'd rather do that than "ignore" the big event, or "interfere" (and if they don't like the book, they can prop the baby's cot on it, or something).

Thanks for the reassurance toadstool! It's so worrying, although I know technically the risk of miscarriage now is very small, something like cramps can't help worry me!

MrsMar - I get little crampy tweaks and pulls very regularly. They were worse a couple of weeks ago and I am 19 weeks tomorrow so I am sure they are pretty standard. There's a LOT of stretching going on in there - you're bound to feel it sometimes.

I still can't feel anything that I can definitely say is the baby. I'm sure I feel the odd somersault sometimes but I'm sure its wishful thinking. I have a feeling mine is going to progress straight to kick boxing rather than me feeling delicate little flutters!! Am counting the day to my 20 week scan where I can see her again.

PS Is anyone else having the most whacked out dreams ever????

MrsMar, I still get odd cramps too, I think mine seem to coincide with growth spurts and sometimes constipation , also I found that wearing trousers too tight (albeit maternity!) gave me all sorts of pains, felt immediate relief when changed into nice loose skirt.

I'm off to see in laws on Friday, haven't seen them for 7 weeks, have to say my FIL isn't the most tactful person in the world, and does tend to pick the most perfectly wrong things to say. When I'd had DS1 he came to visit on day 2 and as I opened the door he pointed to my tummy and said 'Ooh you're still fat', he then saw me sterilising some bottles and said 'isn't titty milk the best?' [vomit emoticon]. The last time I saw him, I was pushed to histerical crying because he trashed the house, even though I'd asked him to try and not let the dogs walk their muddy paws all over the house including cream rug, I came down the next morning to a completely wrecked kitchen, a massive draft from open back door where the dogs were walking in and out merrily pawing mud everywhere. I burst into tears, I'd only been in hospital a few days before because I had been spotting, I'd been told to take it really easy , poor DH who has a parylised arm sorted out the mess . Soooooooo, this'll be the first time I've even spoken to him since that day, so I'm not really looking forward to it. MIL is a saint though

Ausiechick - Australia sounds like a good idea!! What's the weather like there now?

hannahsaunt - that sounds exciting re house renovation, what are you going to have done?? I'm a bit of a builder girl myself and love all that. We built a loft conversion 2 years ago. I did all the insulation and plasterboarding whilst DH was at work - girl power!!!!!!!

Welcome Gils!! Make sure you put yourself on our list, just copy and paste inserting yourself.

Pennypops - my dreams have gone from sex to weird horrible nightmares. I dreamt the other night that my lovely MIL had been killed in a car crash due to horrific head injuries.. very sad. Then whilst I was in the kitchen (not my house) the doorbell rang, my DC answered and all I heard was them screaming and crying histerically. My MIL's body had been brought to the house and wheeled through on a trolley and my poor DC saw everything. Then MIL starting talking, something to do with residual life left in body................. WEIRD WEIRD WEIRD!!!!!!!!!!!!! What have you been dreaming about? Dreams can be horrible sometimes, and so real.

Oh you've saved an old girl a lot of worry pennypops and hiwbb!!! I'm undoing my trousers as we speak (still trying to wear normal non maternity clothes but with top button undone!)

I've borrowed a few maternity trousers from my sister, but as she's 5 inches shorter than me, so I don't have a lot of choice. I have ordered some nice new looooong maternity jeans. I think it's about time to give up the fight to stay in normal clothes. I'm sure a squashed bump doesn't help with the cramping pains!

Hi everybody, hope everyone had a lovely easter. Mine was good apart from having to work yesterday, but that was with some lovely people so it wasn't too bad.

Ds got loads of chocolate, I expect to be eating it for the rest of the month! Did an easter egg hunt with it in the garden, cue lots of 'ohhhhhhs!'. Was really lovely to see him. Then the shock and horror when everytime he turned around and realised another of his eggs had 'disappeared' - me hiding them so he didn't have the inclination to open all 7 of them.

We had FIL and SIL and her DP aswell as our nephew over for lunch. I've only ever cooked for four before, but apart from some nuclear sprouts it all went quite well. MIL was away, which was a true blessing - they wouldn't have been here otherwise, it would have been at theirs and we wouldn't have been invited. Was nice though, weather was lovely and DS for the first time ever was looked after by grandad! Mil has always refused, so when FIL offered DP and I jumped at the chance and went for a lovely river side drink in the sun.

I'm getting bigger daily, i look down and to me there is no mistaking I am pg, but I caught sight of myself in a shop window at the weekend and thought I just looked fat. Ho hum. Not a lot I can do now.

Think I will probably be starting mat leave at around 34 weeks. Loathe to start so early but I work on a stuffy ward with no ventilation or air conditioning and work long 12.5 hr days on my legs all the time. Also our CM is taking the first two weeks of August off, so I will have to take annual leave then so might as well start mat leave. With my holiday entitlement I'm hoping I can actually start my mat leave at about 37 weeks. Have already worked out I have about 45 shifts left. Keen? Me?

Welcome to the new comers - I still can't believe how long this list is now! I'm sure its about 3 times as long as my due nov 04 thread!

MrsMar, I am still getting odd cramps and general funny sensations in my bump, down the left side just above my hip bone especially is sore, not sure what is causing it but definately bearable.

Sophus & Emalushka, my PIL haven't been the best, MIL only just asked after me for the first time in 8 weeks of knowing I was pg last week. FIL seems quite excited about it all though and asks about it. MIL just seems to try and avoid the topic. She is a very odd lady who has been quite unpleasant to DP over the years. I am just glad my mum is lovely!

Jesus hiwbb - that's terrifying. This should make you laugh - last night I dreamt that I had 600 kids. Where the 600 came from I have NO idea. I told my dh when we woke up and he fell about laughing. I failed to mention the particularly saucy dream I'd had about the lovely David Tennant

MrsMar - go with the comfy trousers. You know it makes sense!

Thanks for all the MIL support. Men and their mothers - its an odd thing indeed. My mother is totally cool and not as all fussy or a critical busy body (wears a black beret, does ancient greek literature classes and pickets places which don't have good access for OAPs or disabled people - she rocks). So suddenly having this woman in my life who is nothing like anything i have ever experienced - but then again she created the man of my dreams.

MrsMar - i get twinges, pulls, cramps, creaks - have given up second guessing what is going on - just reckon i'm gradually coming apart at the seams in there. Just keeping my fingers crossed for next scan. Ho hum.

I have bonkers dreams - very vivid, very surreal, occasionally very rude - but generally just bonkers.

And as for crazy dreams!!!!??? I've had tons, about three a night. The pattern seems to go: have crazy dream, wake up going "huh?", need the loo, go back to bed, have crazy dream..... The other night I had a really vivid one about snogging the bloke from Life on Mars. Great kiss, probably shouldn't have told dh!! oops!

I'm sorry to hear everyone else is as uncomfortable as me.... they don't tell us these things at puberty, they should!! My friend said to me the other day "lucky you, no periods!" I didn't have the heart to tell her I've had period type pain for most of the last 17 weeks, she's really keen to have a baby and I don't want to put her off.

Hopeitwontbebig - no, we're now in London, leaving the in-laws back in Oz. Although, they don't sound too bad after reading some of these stories.
I went back in Feb when it was 44 degrees (centigrade) in Perth. Too hot!!!! I had DS in January last year which made breastfeeding interesting - sweaty +++++.
I'm going back to have number 2 at home so it will be beautiful spring weather. Not looking forward to the long haul flight with a 19 month old and being 35 weeks pregnant though.

MrsMar

Im atill getting period type cramping asweel. It normally coinsides with baby moving loads or tummy getting bigger!

Welcome Gils!

Sophus, can I join you in Mongolia? Every time I see my MIL she says "I hope it's a girl" about 20 times until I want to strangle her. She seems convinced that I want a girl too (I couldn't care less) and says she is "praying" for me. Great. I had half a glass of champagne on Sunday and she watched my glass like a hawk to make sure I didn't fill it up again; and practically body tackled DH when he offered me more - I almost said yes just to wind her up.

Had some good news today, Gap is opening 4 maternity departments on April 21st. 2 in London (Oxford Circus and High Street Ken) and 2 other locations (I want to say Leeds and .......... gosh, can't remember - guess where I live? )

oooooh how exciting canadianmum (guess where I live too! oh you know, I'm giving birth in the same hospital as you.. doh!) I'm sure the reason i'm resisting getting in to the maternity clothes (and hence giving myself horrible tummy aches) is because so much of it is horrible! Can't wait for a bit more choice!

I'm sorry you're having these horrible cramps too Edie... I think I must be having a growth spurt!

Pennypops - PMSL at your dream, 600 kids!! But mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm David Tennant, he can 'Doctor' me any time , oops did I say that out loud!!

Sorry Auschick, I get confused these days

Mrsmar - I have heard the theory about you feeling it sooner if you're skinnier, which does make sense sort of.

I felt both this baby and my first when i was 14 weeks. Its always very light movements. It started with feelings of someone blowing bubbles inisde my tummy, Now i feel like a squirming sensation, so gentle though, but the bubbles popping on my tummy. Its doing it now. very odd, and so subtle you wouldn't notice it unless relaxed i don't think. I'm 15 +4 today.

I've had cramping, had it most of the way through with number 1 and the occasional few this time too. its totally normal. if its gets really severe, as strong as period cramps i would get checked out definitly.
Do you have a doppler?

Hope it won't be big -

GREAT NEWS............ my DH's business trip to Finland has been moved, so it means he can come to 20 week scan, yaaaaaaaaaay

That's great news hiwbb!!!

Diddle - I'm sure I've felt something down there, little vibrations or bubbly type feelings, and I'm not really skinny so I might be disproving my own theory! It could of course be just wishful thinking!

I've never really ever had bad period pains, so I would say the pains I've got are as bad as anything I've ever had with a period, but I'm trying not to get too freaked out. I think it's just because I've got away lightly on the pain front in the past, so it feels more noticeable to me now. I never get them when I'm not at work though.... perhaps I can get signed off for the next four months

I'm not getting cramps this time around but with DS I used to get pains right "down there" IYKWIM....felt like he was trying to tunnel his way out. Very unsettling!! Only stopped when he was born Funnily enough, the little sod didn't want to come out that way after all!

can I join you -due on 20th . My first pg (34) after 2 m/c so am keeping fingers well & truly crossed until it arrives..

Maddison, 28, 31.08.07, DS1 6 DS2 21 months
Sparks02, 25, due 1st Sept, first pregnancy
fff45, due 1st Sept, first pregnancy.
Honey2theb, 22, wales, 2 mc, no children, due early sep
Cathbell, due 1st Sept, 1st baby
Trinity1, 33, WestSussex, 2nd Sept, DD 7mths
FioFio - 29, 2nd Sept, Kent dd 7 ds 5
jdd0709 36, South London, 2nd Sept, 1 ds 2yr, 1 mc
Enormouschanges - 2nd sept, north london, second baby, dd now 15 months. 1 mc.
Spraklynewthing, 29, Kent, 3rd Sept, first pg
Pinkhearts 36, Australia, 3rd Sept, DS 5 years and one miscarriage
Minniethemouse, 35, London, 3-13 Sept, 2nd pg, but terminated the 1st.
Bendybus, 4 Sept 2007, London, DS 2.5
Norfolkbumpkin,34, Norwich,4th Sept, first pg
Pennypops, Reading, 5 Sept, first PG
Sophus, 38, Cambs, 6th Sept, first time
Miss Mapp, 34, due 7th Sept ds 22mths
Ajasec, 30, Yorkshire, 7th sept, DD 4, DD 18 months
Pepa, 32, Toronto Canada, 2nd dc due 7th September, ds 17 months
Maretta, 8th Sept, Manchester, ds 1 will be 4y3m and ds2 2y
FilBrit, Sussex, 8th Sept, DD age 3
LoopyLouLisa, 25, Bristol 10th Sept, DS 12 months.
spangly ,31,Due 10 Sept,DD 19 months
Flossam, 26, Bristol, 12th sept, DS 22mths.
lou031205, 27, Southampton, 13th Sept '07, DD-21 months gap.
EdieMcredie, Sep 13th, Norwich, one previous miscarriage, no children
Gin Girl, 22, Oxon/Bucks, 14th Sep (ish) first timer.
MMooMar,36,West Mids,Due 14th Sept,DS aged 2
JemimaPuddleduck07, East Sussex,due 14th Sept, have one DD age 7 and one mc.
Auschick 15th sept, London, ds 12 months
Canadianmum, 36, 15th Sept, London, twin boys 4y
TOD due 15 Sept, Ireland, DS 24mths
minimenace Due 15 Sept
Emalushka 27, first timer and baby is due 15th September.
Chattyhan, 24, North Hants/surrey, 16th sep, DS will be 2y9m, 1 mc
Chicca, 32, Spain, 17 Sept, DS will be 3.2
Mrsdoubleyou, 29, Herts, 17th Sept, (1 prev m/c) no children
JuJuMoo, 27, Huddersfield, due 17th Sept, 1 DS 2.2
Atalantis, 27, Oxfordshire, 17 Sept, first timer.
Luxmum, 17th Sept, DS 17 months
Nettee, 29, 17th September, DS will be 2 1/2
Hannahsaunt, 33, Aberdeen, ds1 will be 2 wks short of 7, ds2 4.8, 2m/c last year, due 18 September
JoniMitchell, 36, due Sept 19th, DS 24mths and one miscarriage
MrsMar 36 yrs, London 19th Sept, first time
Nicki10 24 yrs, London 21st Sept, First time
Rin23 32 yrs, London 21st Sept, first time
Nibbs, 33, SW London, 22nd Sept, DS 16 months
Potoroon, 33, West Berkshire, 22 Sept, DS 21 months
PurpleLostPrincess, Due 22 Sept, '30, Basingstoke, 1DS(12), 1DD(8), 2m/c's
TeeCee - 35yrs, London, 23 Sept - 3rd pregnancy, DD1 5 yrs (has Down's syndrome) DD2 13 months
NewDKmum, 30, W Midlands, 23rd Sep, dd 10 months
Hopeitwontbebig, 31, Northants/Oxfordshire. 23rd Sept, DS1 10, DS2 7, 1 M/C
Toadstool, 38, Bristol, 24th Sept, DD 5 yrs, 1 mc.
FactsAndFigures, 30, 24th Sept, first timer
Kinki, 38, Kent, 25th Sept, 2 boys (7yrs & 23mths)
HammerHeadShark, 38, SE London, 25th September, Twin Girls 2yrs.
Laksa, 29, SE london/Kent, 26th Sept, no children.
Minxx- 35yrs, Andover, 26 Sept - 3rd pregnancy. DS 15yrs,DD 13yrs in 3 weeks.
ccpink, 30, market harborough, 26 Sept, FIRST PG
rachelandbumpsmum, age 35, SE London/Kent, 2nd baby due 27/9, one dd 14 months
Holly29, 33, London, due 27th Sept, first timer
Diddle, 26, W.Midlands, due 28t Sept. 1DS 9 months + 2 MC
TinaLC, 35, West London, 29th Sept, first baby
Plasmon,29, oxfordshire, sept sometime, girls 3 and 1

Welcome poppy!!

Hello everyone. I've been away for a while, but have just been catching up on all the news. I had a nice time away, but found out our little cat died while we were gone. She was quite old, but how sad that she died all alone. I'm surprised how badly I'm taking it all, suppose its down to the homones.

Interesting hearing all your tales of PIL. Mmmmm, I'm busy biting my tongue here! Last pregnancy, I had a major falling out with dh when I was eight months pregnant. Dh involved PIL, and at one point MIL rang me, and ranted down the phone for 90 mins, giving me 18 years worth of reasons why she didn't really like me. Up until that point I thought we got along fine. Talk about a woman scorned, fall out with her son, and you take on her! Amazingly, I exhibited remarkable self-control and took it all on the chin, never once rising to her abuse. Funnily enough its only just in the last few weeks that she's wanted to 'be friends' again. In 2 years she's only visited 4 times (invited squillions of times, lives 20 miles away), but she suddenly came round 4 times in one week. Its kind of surreal really. She's never once refered to that conversation and I'm too chicken to. So I do sympathise with all your difficult or awkward relationships.

You do realise don't you, that we're the MIL's of the future, and the next generation will be moaning about us. God, I hope I never end up like that. I'm going to be a really cool MIL, the sort that my DILs will be bragging about!!!!