Due April 2007 - sleepless nights ......... and the babies aren't even here yet!

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we made it over 500 posts so thought it was time for a new thread!

Elly / Ange - relieved to hear you say that your BHs are painful too. Think that must have been what my pains were last night. Not major pain but enough to keep me awake.

Thanks for the thoughts re nursery dilemma Birdie - anyone else?!?

Afternoon all

Ds goes to a nursery (not old enough for free state places yet) and we've worked out that we can afford to keep him there 2 mornings a week whilst I'm on mat leave (currently goes 3 mornings). Think the routine will be good for him, plus it'll give me time to get to know this lo without any interuptions iyswim.

Re movements - this one is far from dainty full on kicks and punches, as well as the somersaults that take my breath away.

Katy44 - good idea about the photos. Found one 4 weeks before ds birth, and dh reckons I'm bigger than that now - and there's 8 weeks to go!

Brain has turned to mush and can't think what else to write

lots of love to you all

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thanks for all your reassurances re. movements. as someone else said ... so nice to have opinions that you instantly trust.

can't believe how close we all are now and i am sure i am not alone in finding my mind constantly thinking about The Birth! I know that it is a very small moment in the scheme of things but it is just the oddest feeling knowing that within the next x weeks you are going to be going through (possibly) the most amount of pain you have ever felt. Normally when one has to go into hospital/ is in pain, it is not something that you have 9 months notice of is it?! It is just the weirdest thing.

Saying that though, I know that the 'prize' at the end of it will make it all seem worthwhile and it will be soon forgotten etc. etc. but ... well, you all know what I mean!! I sometimes am envious of my DH getting the 'prize' too without the hard work! Any 2nd, 3rd timers out there want to put my straight and tell me not to be so silly?

dogins - nothing is silly about going through pregnancy & childbirth. Know what you mean about dh getting the prize. The only thing I can say is that dh will forever be in your debt for going through this Seriously though, my dh says even now, he doesn't know how women do it.

I've never felt that the birth is a small thing - in terms of time, yes, but not in any other way. I felt so emotional on ds 1st birthday (he'll be 2 in May) just thinking of what I went through to make sure he came into the world safely.

I'm going a weird feeling about the pain - I mean, I know its going to hurt, but I really don't mind. Maybe I'm just sadistic

not sure if I've helped - think maybe I went off on a tangent

Bramshott- I would love to get rid of my DD for all that time, I haven't looked into nurserys yet may start once DT's are here.

You have to think she will most probably enjoy spending time with other kids her age, having people to play with and keep her occupied.
You on the other hand will be busy with baby, housework and SLEEP, not having your DD around so much may be a god send.

Bramshott, I think I'd go for half nursery days in your place but depends how much of a break you think that would give you. I'm going to keep dd going when I'm on mat leave but might cut the whole day friday down to just a morning - will see how I go.

I'm not too anxious about the birth -despite finding it very painful in the second stage last time at least now I know what I'm up against and that I can do it. It's incredible what you can cope with if the labour is progressing normally - and if it isn't then thank goodness for anaesthetists & epidurals!!

Have been having a bit of a dilemma about the birth, though. Originally booked a homebirth but obviously that went out the window when we had the mystery bowel condition seen on scan & it looked like the baby might have needed surgery. However, now that seems to be resolving. DH & I had a very reassuring meeting with a paediatric surgeon last week & my obstetrician says it's OK if I want a home birth.

I REALLY REALL want one, I got to fully dilated last at home last time and doing the whole thing here just feels right to me. However DH isn't too keen and I wonder if I'm being a little irresponsible considering what we've gone through with the scan. Anyone else had reluctant DHs? Anyone who's had a homebirth - what did your DH think of it?

It really feels like we're in a queue for a rollercoaster ride doesn't it? All the Jan thread mums have gone, the feb ones are going and all the excitement/adrenaline is building up.......

Hi ya loves.

Bramshott I am going to stick with the routine that Becky has which is 3 full days and 1 morning at preschool/nursery, as tbh they require 2 months notice if you want to change days/times, and I cannot be arsed with all that! Plus, she loves it, and gains so much out of it. I don't want to reduce the hours because I also think it will prepare her for the hours that she will be doing when she goes to 'big school' in Sepember. Also, as like Birdie, Becky gets v bored if not stimulated, and I just don't feel I will be able to dedicate as much time to her as this pg progresses and I get more tired, and when the new baby comes along, there will be even less time to dedicate to her. We will have 1 full day and 1 afternoon during the week as 3, and then obviously at the weekends the 4 of us will be together. So, for us it is a good balance.

Sorry, that rambled on a bit!!

Katy, pmsl at your self-trimming. You were brave!

Ange, really pleased the scan went well.

Sorry,I know there were lots of other posts, but I have forgotten everything again!
Hugs to all!!

Hello everyone - haven't posted in a few week sso really not up to date on the latest topics etc. HAd first antenatal class today, was just the introduction one. Very scary as i was furthest along in the group which all of a sudden made it seem A LOT closer to the big day! I was like "blimey, i'm actually going to have my baby (approx) a month before you etc" weird.

30 + 5 today! Oh and its my 21st birthday tomoro so yay me!lol

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Hi everyone, hope you're all ok.

It's taken me over an hour to catch up and tbh I feel so crappy today I just can't take any of it in.

Went to ILs on friday, journey down was awful cos of the weather. It took 6 hours , normally takes 4. Anyway went out Fri night with the guy who was best man @ our wedding and had really nice meal in a pub. Had lemon sole goujons but there was loads....so I didn't get pudding . Went shopping with DH & ILs on Sat in Kingston. DH has been telling me for ages how great it is but we've never had chance to go until this time. Bought a couple of outfits (girl ones so fingers crossed a boy doesn't pop out! ). Had a bath at ILs house - they were sooooooo nice to us and MIL even gave me some bath stuff to use (unwanted gift) - I'm the first person to EVER use the bath there!!! (they all have showers!) Went to BILs 30th birthday party. Had a great time, there was food - salmon, chilli, chicken casserole, rice, jacket potatoes, salad & then 4 deserts! BIL & wife had also organised a casino night, which was great fun. Finished about 11pm. We stayed with BIL that night. His wife is pg and was looking a bit worse for wear in the morning - hadn't been drinking, just really tired and she's still at the ms stage too. Chatted about baby stuff for a bit. Then DH & I went back to Guildford and had a look round the shops (bought a taggie ball in the sale!) then back to ILs for sunday lunch. Was really great, I couldn't believe how nice ILs were and they bought us some stuff fro the baby. MIL gave me a big hug before we left and got a bit upset cos she really wants to see the baby after it's born and is a bit worried I won't want her to come here. So I think everything is starting to work itself out with ILs and they really did make it clear that they are happy about us having a baby...although think FIL may be getting fed up @ looking @ girly clothes with MIL!!!

Sorry if this is really long...I got a bit carried away!

Oh and stopped at a service station on the way back with an M&S food place so bought 2 packs of yum yums! (they only had 2 packs!)

Evening everyone - been at work today - one day left

Feeling a bit happier today which is good - as a result waivering between the natural birth planned or an elective c-section - really don't know which way to go. Think will book to see consultant and get growth scan before decide! Can't remember who asked but when you see your consultant about having a section you can ask to be sterilised at the same time.

I get painful braxton hicks - not loads - just maybe one a day and it is very noticeable!!! Reminds me of last time...!

My mind has gone blank as to who has said what!

Ted has a very ominous looking spot on his nose... don't mention the c word!

CD - a friend of mine is using deep heat on her bump/back - not sure if you are meant to in pg but she says it helps. Hope the pain eases off soon - maybe a hot water bottle or massage would help.

Off to check out other threads - back soon!

Liath I would definately go for the home birth if at all possible. I am hoping to have my 4th home birth this time!
Ds2 was delivered by my dh as the mw didn't get there in time and still wasn't too nervous about me having one last time with ds3.
Last time was fantastic as I went into labour at about ten past one in the morning and ds3 was born just after 3 and none of the other children heard a thing, so they just woke up to a lovely surprise in the morning!
It must be a little more worrying after your scan, but is there anything else in particular worrying him (or you)?

don't know if you are interested liath but there is a thread at the moment asking for what your partner thought about having a hb?

Afternoon ladies, just been catching up.

Bramshott, Jake will not go to big school til next September and I will be keeping his Nursery the same, which is Mon and Wed Mornings, Tues til 3:30 and Fri afternoons(he's already at my mums on a Thursday night and Friday Mornings) I think I'll find Thursdays really tough as Jake already needs to be occupied all the time and gets bored easily, I hope to meet up with friends on Thursdays and go out somewhere and he'll still go to mums in the evening.

Someone once told me that if you are going to change Nursery arrangements because of a new baby to try to do it before the baby arrives so it doesn't look like you are pushing them out and they are already used to a new routine.

Waspelly - Good to hear from you, I was thinking we hadn't heard from you in a while. Sorry that you're suffering in the sleeping dept as many of us are, hope it settles down a bit.

Katy - good idea about photos I've got none of me pg with Jake and as this is going to be my last time I ought to have some. Good on you tackling the ladygarden, I'm leaving mine until immac the day of my section

Liath - Glad your parcel turned up, what lovely neighbours you have.

9wks - Glad you're feeling a bit brighter today

Nuttygirl - Sounds like a good weekend. Your Ils sound like they were lovely.

CharNBump - Hello and Happy 21st Birthday for tomorrow Hope you have a great day.

SOSPL - Hope you had a nice restful afternoon without Becky

Birdiebump - Hope your MW app went well.

Yvie - Hi, good to hear from you.

Right must dash to make dinner now xx

Thanks, cazboldy - hadn't spotted that thread! Think DH is worried about things going wrong, but we only live 5-10 minutes from the hospital.

I'm trying to make him feel involved in the decision but equally I've decided what I want - it's just a case of conning him into thinking he has a say........

Just a quick visit.

CD You might have pulled a muscle while coughing, of course; I've had three coughs during this pregnancy, and each one hurt my bump.

Nurseries - Would echo AngeG's advice: if you are going to change arrangements, don't wait until the baby is here, as that is asking for trouble!

My DS doesn't go to nursery (DP and I both work p/t, so box and cox childcare, with my mum helping out if we get stuck), and although his Playgroup place will probably come through in September/October and I'll try that, I have a strong feeling that he won't be ready until after Christmas. DS has just turned two and is quite a clingy child; I hate that word, it sounds so negative and he's a sweetie, but he is still very much at the needing us stage. I think boys are often worse for this? Am very of those whose childcare arrangements will allow them some time alone with the new baby. But I'm even more worried about not being able to give DS the attention he's used to. No pleasing some people!

Am starting to get excited now, though: think it might be the decision to buy the fancy pram. How shallow am I?

it must be reassuring to be quite close to a hospital in case something goes wrong, but that is partly why I like to have mine at home....at the moment I am at least 20 mins away and when we move it will be closer to 40 and as ds 3 was born so quickly (it was approx 40 mins from my first twinge until his arrival) I think I am better off at home than trying to give birth in the car!

Evening ladies. Not posted for ages but have been lurking

Have been reading the stuff on nurseries with interest, DS currently goes 3 days a week whilst I am at work and I was planning on keeping this arrangment once on mat leave (2 weeks to go - that's 5 days left now!! ). Anyway, his nursery is opening a second one in mid April which will be nearer to home and better provision for over 2s. At the moment I have said that we would like to move to the new nursery at the same time as he would be moving into the over 2 room anyway, he's 2 at the end of May so that would be June time. They have said this is fine or we can move him across when it opens in April. I think that's too close to the new baby arriving and will be too disruptive, what do you think??

Am also feeling the "abandment" guilt of DS by having a second child - he is just SOOO cute at the moment it makes me well up (puke mummy moment, sorry!). DH is feeling the same - says he wants to freeze DS in time so he doesn't grow up!!! Am sure we will all adapt though and its a bit weird not to have siblings so I'm sure we're doing the right thing...

Anyway, sorry to ramble on. Hope all ok and those with the aches and pains are taking it easy - totally get the painful bump thing. On Thursday it was rock hard and tight all day. Is that a Braxton Hicks? never had any with DS... Long hot baths seem to help so all of you that are sore, get in the bath now!!

Bramshott, personally I wouldn't send her the extra day. She will be going full time soon enough (September?) and then you do have very little time with them. My DD was born in the July and DS started pre-school in the autumn 5 afternoons a week, when he was at pre-school I used to sit there with DD pondering what to do! DS started fulltime school this year and it is a mad dash getting him there, DD is older now so we are busy whilst he is at school, then we pick him up, get home, do homework and have a chat, then he watches TV for a bit or has friends round to play and before you know it its time for tea, bath, bed.

They are at school fulltime soon enough! But that is just my take on things

Evening all.

Nutty, your post was really lovely, so descriptive. It sounds like you had a lovely time. I am glad I am not the only one woolfing down yum yums! Saying that,I bought some lovely iced buns with jam in the middle today, and they were delicious - although yum yums are the dogs doodahs!

Ange, v good advice about not making changes after the baby has arrived. We so have to be one step ahead of the game this time around don't we, taking everyone's feelings in to account.

Waspelly, glad you are ok. I was wondering where you had got too.

CharNbump, have a wonderful 21st birthday tomorrow.

Hotlips, I keep feeling pangs of guilt again about having another and how Becky will be. I got all tearful when we got the cot out and felt so guilty that someone else was going to be using it. B is been fine about it and seems so excited.

Bless her heart, I bought her some new knickers today, with fairies on them, as she is slightly obsessed with fairies atm. Her face was a picture, and she has gone to bed with a pain in her hands!

Anyway, need a cup of tea and an iced bun!

Sweet dreams everyone. xx

What are yum yums? Is it just food or is it some type of food that has passed me by?! Please god don't let any food have passed me by! Iced buns....yummy!

Liath - glad you got your parcel back - had you already yelled at parcelforce?!

Tightenings are braxton hicks - can't remember who asked...

Today - being a better day - am back on the natural birth route BUT will be sterilised if end up having a section. Otherwise think will go for coil - this may all change again though when feeling fed up! On one of the pregnancy programmes today there was a lady in for a planned section and sterilisation - all seemed straight foward. DH not sure about being sterilised just in case want another one at a later date - even if its five years away - NO WAY!!!

Off to watch ER!

Nightie night xoxoxoxo

evening folks - i have missed out on so much. quick scan while waiting for yet another caot of paint to dry in teh nursery - 4 coats on all walls and ceiling. at least another 2 before the fabby "feature" colour!
hasnt been a smooth process. dp and i have barel spoken sine we began. his approach = 1/2 wall adn coffee break. mine = get stuck in and get it all done.

we now have nowehere so it down in teh flat as all our posessions are everywhere. oh lordy......

hope you are all well.
the countdown to single figure weeks is on. gulp.
liath h- see you 2morro for coffee and natter! xoxox

HAPPY BIRTHDAY charNbump

Hi all

Gosh I have just caught up and now can't remember what I was going to say!!

Charnbump - Happy 21st my love - gosh my 21st seems like a very dim and distant memory....what are you planning to do to celebrate??

SOSPL - Yum yums and iced fingers....it's only 8 am and I've just had my weetabix and I want both NOW!lol

Really reassured by all this talk about impact on existing children when baby comes as I have been really worrying about it recently. It's good to know I'm not alone. I have James in Nursery one full day and one half day at the moment -was thinking of changing it to 3 half days when I go on mat leave as I just feel that it will be good forhim to have company for the three days and will be a good thing for me to get up and out of the house three days a week also! My Mum helps out the other two days so I know that at least that way he will get some external stimulation every day...he just gets bored otherwise if we stay in and I don't want the pressure of having to go out to keep him occupied straight away - especially when recovering from section and cannot drive. At the end of the day though he may love having an extra little person in the house and he is a very helpful child so I plan to involve him with everything as much as I can. He has become alot more "into" the idea the past week or so and there have been a few moments he has climbed up and asked to cuddle the baby or stroke the baby..(which obviously have me in tears). He announced last night it was a baby sister and I told him if it was then it was Baby Robyn...so now the bump is Baby Robyn which is a big step forward...although will have to introduce the idea that it may be a boy baby at a later date! lol
I have my appointment this afternoon with the consultant anaesthetist...don't really know what to expect from it (learning from NHS to expect little and then you won't be disappointed!!) Phil has taken the afternoon off to come with me which is great. He will be able to ask all the questions I forget....so does anyone want to know anything about spinals and epidurals? I'll get my list of questions together!!

I'm ravenous this morning - must go get some toast.
Nutty - sounds like you had a lovley weekend - glad it is going well with the IL's.
Hello to everyone - sorry for lack of personal mentions
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happy birthdy CNBump!