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[notsolilKel]

Hi everyone, new thread...apologies for sorry attempt at poetry

I turned my phone off and became a social recluse so everyone would stop asking me for news! I got really pissed off and bored! I tried everything, curry, walking, housework and even sex ! Nothing worked. If I go over again I'll kill someone!

Evening all,
Daisy - sorry about the cat. I'm sure you'll find just the right cat very soon.
H&A that is awful - I had DS2 at 37 weeks and that was bad enough - don't think I would have coped with another 5 weeks.

I've had such a lovely day - DS1 was at nursery so DS2 and I went to music group then to the library - then the sun started shining so we walked to the park and back again, then DS2 fell asleep and I went and sat outside a lovely coffee shop and had a disgustingly rich chocolate brownie. I now have hideous indigestion but it was worth it

Just got home so should go and get some dinner ready for the children - they had an enourmous quantity of biscuits at 4 (not a normal occurrance - needed to be on good behaviour so they were so they were bribed) so don't think they will be needing much more than some veggies. We may even eat in front of the tv tonight

Have you read the thread about what's the worst thing your toddler has got up to unsupervised - sorry, I'm not technically adept to link it, but it had me crying with laughter!! If you have children you'll recognise some (hopefully not all) things in it. If you don't, it'll give you a good idea of the things they get up to! pmsl!!!!

I read that thread earlier and have to say my dd has done a lot of those things! She is a little minx! Everytime she does something bad I try and get cross, but in the end I just pmsl!! Like today when she did an Andrex Puppy and unraveled a whole toilet roll round the house, on friday she got into my make up and there was various colours of eyeshadow crumbled all over the bathroom floor and a couple of weeks ago she drew all over the living room wall and the coffee table! Sometimes you just have to leave them unsupervised or you'd never get anything done!

Agreed! I call it 'independent play' and it plays a vital role in a child's development - and my sanity! Thankfully haven't experienced any poo/insect eating! probably only a matter of time, but I think I'd freak!!

My friend's son ate dog poo!! I was nearly sick when she told me and she was really upset! He also eats woodlice!

Daisy - about Marvin, hope you get a cat soon, and Marvin gets a child free home (you can tell I am hormonal as I am now fretting about Marvin!). By the way if any of you are feeling blue do NOT watch March of the Bloody Penguins. That's all i am going to say on the matter.

I had a terrible night last night - awake til 6am and then sleeping nicely til the bloody window cleaners started shouting outside my window. I took cover under the duvet and had to cower for ages as I had left a curtain ajar.

I went to see the midwife today, all is well, blood pressure now 120/60 which is a bit better. I was weighed - have put on 14 pounds at 24 weeks - she thinks the optimal amount of weight to put on is a stone and a half . I think I am heading way past that....

H&A - dh is going to have to deal with our child if it eats dog poo...in fact I don't think I will let the child back in the house again! I have OCD, and one of my main issues is hygiene, that will really see me off!

LOL at 'independent play' foxy!

poor Doggus - that's rubbish - feel for you! Was it anything in particular keeping you awake?

Hi all
Wow, you guys are all busy yakking during the day - feel v left out as I dont get on internet till I get home !

Feeling v upset today actually, pretty much on the verge of a nervous breakdown due to severe lack of sleep, and some woman at yoga pushed me over the edge and made me cry . I was having a conversation with another women who commented how I was getting bigger each time she saw me (I let that on go coz I like her) and I moaned and said I know, and she said 'it'll only get worse onces its born' and I said actually I was quite looking forward to that part as I hate being pg so much and this other cow piped in and said "well if you hate being pg you'll really hate having a baby" . Can you believe it? I said actually I thought that was a really mean thing to say, and a 'debate' ensued where she was all matter of fact, she knew best that's just the way it is, and if I don't bond with my baby whilst pg I won't bond with it when it's born. I said that wasn't true, they are totally separate things, when you are pg you feel like shit and have loads of hormones raging and it's all a bit of a shock, and it's totally different when your baby is actually born etc. Now most of you will know that my feelings during this pg have been a bit of a burden for me. I haven't enjoyed being pg, and there is not a day goes by that I don't feel guilty about it, and one of my biggest fears is PND and not bonding with my baby when it born, so this hit a real sore point and by then I was crying. And in the end she started trying to back track (not apologise though) and say how I'd misunderstood her and it must be my hormones. WTF? I'm still furious, and mortified at having reacted so badly in front of my yoga class. But I'm glad I stood up for myself (albeit through heaving sobs!) as normally I would have just silently fumed. It's not just me is it? That was a horrid thing to say. And then to blame it on my hormones like its my fault... (I'm a mix of emotions at the moment!)

Bloody hell! That might be her experience, but thats a load of old nonsense! Don't you worry, being pregnant can be shit, but its actually got bugger all to do with being a mother! Being pregnant only prepares you for giving birth (and even that is limited by being strictly physical).

Hi foxy - I just can't get comfy, I can't lie on my tummy any more and it is doing my head in!

Bumper - what a dreadful woman, it's so not true what she says. As you say, our hormones are completely up the spout, it's a physically huge effort being pg, aligned with feeling ill/backache and so on. Lots of women feel vile during pg, not just those who are clinically depressed, I would imagine it is far more common than we know. You are doing really well, you have got this far without ad's, and how you feel now doesn't have anything to do with the bonding process after the baby is born. Ignore her, I don't know what on earth gets into some women when they see another pg female!

Bumper - have a nice long ladybath, and go to bed early, even if you can't sleep again being in bed a bit earlier takes the pressure off.

Lastly, if you go to www.bbc.co.uk, you can see a black rhino giving birth. The calf weighs 80 pounds . So hey what are we first timers worrying about?!

Though I must say the mummy rhino sort of collapses into a heap and stays there for a long time, with a sort of bemused/can't be arsed expression...

Bumper that's a load of crap! I hope you tell her where to go next time you see her (and give her a slap from me!!). I had an awful pg with my dd, I was sick almost every day and most of my hair fell out, I was exhausted and cried all the time. I hated being pg, it was shit! As for bonding with my dd, I cannot imagine loving her more and every day since the day she was born she lights up my life more and more. She is my little angel (well most of the time!) ! You tell that stupid bitch to f*ck off and impose her "mothering" tips on someone who cares! Sorry, but people like that do my head in! As if you don't feel bad enough already! Grr...

Nice rhino doggus! Having my dd felt like that! This time I think I'm having an elephant!

You know Bumper, we all have our doubts about our ability to love and cope. Its a perfectly normal reaction to something that for most of us will be the biggest thing we ever do.
Yes, there are some people who find it hard to bond. I bonded with DS1 the night I had him, but I didn't feel that same 'rush' with DS2 for a year! That's not to say I didn't love him, it just that I didn't get the overwhelming whoosh. More of a slow burner.
And the moment we get up the duff we are hit with this thing called maternal guilt. If you sniff the cork of a wine bottle will it harm the foetus? If we don't breastfeed are we harming? yada yada yada.
Anyway, my point is it'll probably be OK and you'll love that precious little alien being regardless.

and I bet that Rhino was back in the fields minutes after giving birth ....

God, Bump, I'm surprised you didn't clock that woman one. How can people be so ignorant and stupid and sanctimonious at once? I guarantee she's got all sorts of problems of her own, and was saying all that to make her feel better about herself. Honestly, it amazes me what people say. DO NOT LISTEN!!!! You'll be fab. Hormones are shit. I remember once during a bout of PMT almost resigning my supposedly crap job - I applied for three new ones, stomped off home, told DH 'that was it'... Four days later could not remember what the problem was, had to explain to three HR departments why I wasn't going to come for interviews after all, yada yada yada. Hormones do crazy things which have no bearing on reality - just look after yourself and don't go near toxic people, particularly those offering supposedly well-meaning advice. Pah. Sorry, just got so angry on your behalf!
Doggus, sorry to hear about crap sleep. Have you tried one of those body pillows? I've got one and it really helps - you can kind of half sleep on your front (I can't sleep any other way)
And bump, being big is GOOD. Big means healthy big bouncing baby. (Okay, so I'm a first timer who hasn't been through the birth bit yet, but let's skip over that bit shall we? ) Weight shmeight. Or, you know, something to that effect. Get a pedicure, buy a good book and forget about it .

surely this is the time when we don't have to worry about our weight? ooh, there goes the oven timer. Gotta go and get the M&S Hot Chocolate Fudge pud out. Ice cream or double cream, hmmmm?
I'll be here for my egg sarnie in the morning! Night all xx

Thanks guys, I knew I could rely on you for sympathy and vicarious indignation I'll just have to try and curb my very un-zen thoughts about her next time I'm in yoga class. Good news is my I'm starting private antenatal classes in two weeks, and they'll be free as I am being a case study! Hope that they will gear me up for labour a bit.

Off to have a bath now then bed in the vain hope I'll get more than 4 hours sleep tonight! Poor old DH is relegating himself to the spare room as he has a cough and a cold and if I don't get a good night's sleep soon he'll also have a black eye!

Have a good day tomorrow. Foxy v jealous of choccie fudge cake. My choice would be ice cream!

Ooh i have never heard of a body pillow and now I have googled I am getting one - excellent idea Marylou, thanks.

Foxy I am having M&S syrup pudding with creme fraiche. Washed down with Mini Eggs. You can tell I have taken a lot of notice of the midwife....

I shall dream of fried egg sandwiches. The local caff does Eggs Benedict which are calling my name. Sleep well everyone.

DS's at school, DD1 dancing to Fairies in front of me. Must be time for breakfast2 by now.
I've been thinking about the help I won't be getting when this baby comes.
Your mention of being a case study put me in mind of what help there is for minimum payment. I've heard of trainee maternity nurses (not that I have the room), but I'm going to approach my local college about trainee nannies, see if any need a secondment. More to help with the older ones.
Sadly the choc pud didn't live up to its promise, delicious and gooey, but I think half of it was too much. Think it was meant for a family of four .....
Anyway, toddler group beckons (thankful for the tea and biscuits, even DD1 isn't that impressed anymore). Must try not to spend every waking hour on here ....

morning all. Woke up at 3.45am with really bad heartburn. What's that all about? Was fine when I went to bed...
Still, sun is shining, all's well with the world .

mmm, cos you want to be munching on gaviscon at 4am! Oh to have a full nights sleep!

Me too this morning. Could have been something to do with the bag of popcorn I munched my way through last night - or the disgustingly rich chocolate brownie...