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NameChange30 · 25/08/2016 07:46

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NameChange30 · 31/08/2016 16:08

Hope everyone's scans went well today.

Dusty and Happy Sorry to hear about all the vomming Sad Hope you both feel better very soon!

neon How annoying that your midwife wrote down the opposite of what you said! If you're seeing a consultant soon (which I guess you must be given it's twins?) I suggest you talk to them about a C-section. If the consultant agrees it will be in your notes and the midwife will have to respect it.

I've just got a text message from my GP surgery offering me a flu jab. That's because I'm pregnant, right? Should I have it? Presumably there are no risks or they wouldn't offer it?!

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DaisyBank82 · 31/08/2016 16:31

Glad to catch up on some happy scan news in the last couple of days. Really sorry to read some sad news too.

Butter I hope the blood results come back very quickly so you have a clearer idea of what you might want to do next. From what I recall the NT measurement is the bigger consideration when it generates the risks, and the bloods play less of a role in the result, though obviously it's important to look at both to get the more accurate screening result. In Expecting Better there is a section about amnio tests as the author, an economist, was very much of the view that she wanted to have the maximum information possible about her pregnancy to make fully informed decisions (might be a bit related to being in the US too, where all antenatal care is private, so you might be more demanding if you felt like you were entitled to it?). Anyway, she said that all the studies which quote the risks of the procedure are hugely out of date and actually if you factor in the huge advances in ultrasound technology in recent years the tests are actually much 'better' than their reputation would generally indicate. I'm sure you'll be given all kinds of resources/ contacts to help you make up your mind about what steps you would want to take, but if you haven't already read it it might be worth keeping in mind. If you pm me your email address I think there's a way I can 'lend' you my kindle copy of the book too, for a period of time. I am not 100% sure how but I think it's possible at least. Also, you may want to consider looking into Harmony (DNA) tests. As far as I'm aware in some places this is available on the NHS for higher risk patients but other areas only privately. The testing is not invasive, as I understand it, but it isn't cheap - it is incredibly accurate though. I'm not an expert but might be worth looking into. I hope you're keeping positive and have lots of support around you. It must be a worry. What was the measurement, if you don't mind me asking?

Name yes, if you're pregnant you're automatically offered a flu vaccine along with other vulnerable patients like the elderly, asthmatic, diabetic etc. I think the reasons are 1) you are more vulnerable when pregnant as your immune system is suppressed (I might be making this up but you're also visiting the GP more often so coming into contact with more germs!) 2) it's potentially more harmful than when you're not pregnant and can pose a risk to the baby 3) if you catch it there's very little you can take, so it would be really miserable! I have a flu jab through work every year anyway and fully intend to have it again this time.

Sorry for those still vomiting. I am still being sick most days for one reason or another, mostly first thing in the morning before I've eaten, often brushing my teeth too, and any time I feel like I've something like dust in my throat I gag. It's not fun. I am also always thirsty and so bored of water so I've been drinking really weak ribena light, which I seem to find easier to drink for some reason. I don't want to only want it and not water though, so trying to have the smallest amount of the ribena possible. I'm also suffering from headaches which I don't usually get. I need new glasses I think and it's also linked to being dehydrated, but it is getting me down a bit. I've told a few more colleagues today, which is nice. No-one is surprised as it's baby no 2. Actually it's much easier to share the news this time than it was last time.

Butterpuff · 31/08/2016 17:09

Thank you for the lovely message Daisy we should get the blood results tomorrow or Friday so at least then we will have our risk factor. I think we will probably opt for amnio for peace of mind as its likely we will have a high risk factor. The measurement was 3.9 and we were only dated at 11+3 so its quite early. I will discuss the harmony test with DH. We could have CVS early next week but then would have to cancel our holiday (we are supposed to be flying Tuesday) as were advised that going abroad in case of miscarriage. So we also have to consider that option it may depend on the blood results. Thank you for the offer of a loan of the book. I don't have a kindle, but will see if I can borrow a library copy to take a read. Its so hard to know what to do for the best. I know it could be nothing, or it could be that our baby is very poorly indeed. CVS or Amnio are the only ways to really know for sure.

I'm sorry your still vomiting, and struggling with fluids. Its so difficult as you need to drink lots but its just so hard. I hope it eases for you soon. How many weeks are you?

NameChange30 · 31/08/2016 17:12

Daisy Thanks so much for the flu jab answer, I will go for it! (Very good point about not being able to take much in the way of medication, that would be bloody miserable!)

On the subject of invasive testing, I'd also heard that the commonly quoted stats are based on outdated studies. I looked it up on the ARC website and it seems that the risk of miscarriage after an amniocentesis is 1/150 (0.6666%), although they don't reference the source unfortunately. I have a hard copy of Expecting Better so I might check it out later.

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neonrainbow · 31/08/2016 17:26

Name change it was the consultant i saw. She didn't say i couldnt have a section but said it's better to give birth vaginally if you want more children. I've never wanted more than two and theres a much higher risk of more twins if you already have them. So could i cope with 4 children plus dss? Probably not. We would need a bigger house and car for a start and it would cost a fortune to get a 4/5 bed that was a similar standard to the 3 bed we've got. Anyway ill do some more reading around the subject and hope that one of them lays breech closer to the time as i am crap at defying people in authority. If i do decide to deliver vaginally I'm definitely having my mum there as she's gobby and always speaks up!

NameChange30 · 31/08/2016 17:28

Cross post. Butter happy to lend you my hard copy or send you scans of the relevant pages!

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NameChange30 · 31/08/2016 17:31

neon Oh sorry I misread and assumed it was the consultant not the midwife! Gah!

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NameChange30 · 31/08/2016 18:44

Let's try that again... I assumed it was the midwife and not the consultant (Gah x 2)

Tbh I am unimpressed by the consultant not really listening to you, they could have at least asked whether you had definite plans about having more children in future... If you don't plan to have any more then I don't see the issue with a C-section (but even if you did want more, VBAC is still a possibility isn't it?) ANYWAY I suppose things could change in the course of the pregnancy and in the run up to your due date and hopefully they will agree to a C-section if that's what they want.

Sorry for rambly post, feeling a bit exhausted and incoherent today!

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NameChange30 · 31/08/2016 18:45

if that's what you want

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neonrainbow · 31/08/2016 18:55

Are you struggling today namechange Grin

I told her i don't want any more and she said everyone says that. I only realised today that the back page of my notes has my appointments written down . I was wondering why i had heard nothing from the midwife then the consultant pointed out that I've got an appointment already written in for next thursday. Doh!

NameChange30 · 31/08/2016 18:57

Glad I'm not the only one Grin

In my defence I'm tired and hungry, since being pregnant I can't handle eating dinner later than 6pm and still haven't eaten tonight!

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neonrainbow · 31/08/2016 19:31

Oh God i get really angry really quickly if im hungry these days. I have to really keep a lid on it!

NameChange30 · 31/08/2016 19:34
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Happygojo86 · 31/08/2016 19:36

Had my scan, all good! Baby was quite still which worried me but the sonographer said it was fine as growth and heartbeat was fine. No sign of anything amiss. It then started to wiggle near the end. DD was a wiggler from the beginning. Even now she moves all the time!

The sonographer was great, I told her I'd had an mmc in the past so she turned off my screen and did a really quick scan and said 'there's a baby and a heartbeat' she then let me have a little cry, turned the screen back on and got on with the scan. I was put forward 1 day. I'm so happy and relieved!

ItsMagicYouKnow · 31/08/2016 19:47

Ahh, what a nice sonographer you had happy! Glad all is OK. Mine wasn't very wriggly either but neither was DS at that point (the sonographer had to wiggle the ultrasound stick to get him to move. Quite vigorously. Without warning me. It was a transvaginal scan.)

Bet that makes up for your morning vom? Grin Seriously, sympathy though.

NameChange30 · 31/08/2016 20:00

Aw congrats Happy, and I'm glad your sonographer was kind Smile x

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Butterpuff · 31/08/2016 20:05

Congratulations happy that's lovely.

I just told Dh about the harmony test. He's been phoning round leaving messages to try and get a test in before we go on holiday. At least it feels like we are doing something.

Happygojo86 · 31/08/2016 20:07

Prangry = pregnant + hungry + angry

My oh calls it the 'triangle of doom'

Hopefully soon I will stop feeling crappy. DD didn't have an afternoon nap so I am hoping for some sleep tonight.

Currently trying to stay awake for bake off

NameChange30 · 31/08/2016 20:14

"My oh calls it the 'triangle of doom'"
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NameChange30 · 31/08/2016 20:15

(Just told DH and he agrees!)

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Freckles007 · 31/08/2016 20:16

Hi ladies, great to hear about all the happy scans!

I was 14 weeks yesterday and I suddenly feel very good! I got sick nearly every day last week so it's amazing to actually be a bit hungry at last!!!

Chloe I've lost close to a stone...mostly down to just eating less but I think I've lost some muscle as well (I just sit/lie down all day now!). I'm sure I'll start putting it on now that I'm feeling better. My GP prescribed me anti-nausea medication (Cyclizine) which I take now and then if I feel rough...she said not to worry about weight loss, the baby will be fine :-)

Tutuloves · 31/08/2016 21:05

Freckles I was 14 weeks yesterday too!! Times flying isn't it.
Whoever came up with the terms "scanxiety" and "prangry" there terms are brilliant and I shall we using them for sure.
I had a little browse at the travel systems and baby stuff in John Lewis today, I love baby shopping it's so exciting!! But shant buy anything until after the 20 week scan.
Next step is feeling the baby move. I was 20 weeks when I felt the kicks on my first and about 16 weeks on my second. Will see when I start to feel the kicks on this one, can't wait it's so reassuring!!!

Rosey135 · 31/08/2016 21:42

For those who have had their 12 week scan did you have internal or external scans? And what dictates which scan you have? Thanks

MissClarke86 · 31/08/2016 21:47

Rosey, I had an abdominal scan and am fairly curvy (size 18). She had no problems seeing the baby clearly.

I think internal scans are performed when baby is either still hiding quite deep in the uterus or ladies are large and it's easier to get a clear picture internally, but it's unusual.

I've had many internals with previous MC and early pregnancy with this one, so if you do have to have one they're really not that bad.

Rosey135 · 31/08/2016 21:52

Thanks, the thought does freak me out but i suppose i will deal with it eithwer way, Im a size 8/10 and I should be 13.3 by then so I hope that will mean an external will be fine.

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