It's the calm before the storm (sort of) that is Fantastic February and the March Madness - we did a lot of shagging last summer! We need more JSers on this, our 44th thread!

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 44th grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The 43rd grads thread is HERE

The thread we have graduated from is HERE in its 57th outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread HERE
for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

HERE is the stats list, please update your own spot with any updates. (Except it's not because I don't know how to link to the stats sheet!)

carrot Piriton is safe in pregnancy and can help with congestion and not being able to sleep. Maybe ring your GP and ask them if you're not sure. My NHS GP suggested it for my sinusitis last month and it made a world of difference. It is hard to heal if you're not getting enough rest

Bit late to the party, but yay for jellybaby and pretzelbaby! Congratulations to both of you!

Spent the weekend at my parents after dropping DH off at the airport at stupid-o-clock to go skiing. I told them I was pregnant yesterday, and they were v v excited (first potential grandchild), and today we went to the Strictly tour in Manchester which was awesome. I actually realised that I conceived the weekend of the Strictly final - I remember watching Jay dance and commenting on MN about exploding ovaries, and lo and behold they produced an egg! It would be totally inappropriate to call the Socklet Jay, wouldn't it?

DH on top cheeky form tonight. We watched a movie that finished at 8pm. I flicked the channel guide on. "Oh look honey, Call The Midwife is on!" He says.

I eye him suspiciously. "You won't watch that, its a vagina show" (which means "holds interest only for women.)

"I don't mind darling, I'll go play on the computer instead."

Cheeky sod.

I don't begrudge him though, he knows it'll have to stop when babies here.

That was crafty of him honey!

Uh. Awake for a wee, now have acid reflux. Have already had Rennie... Still got acid. So giving it ten mins or so and then I will have even more Rennie.

I really don't want to have to go downstairs to get the gaviscon.

I think the baby has hiccups. It feels like a pulse coming from my bump but it's super slow (like 30bpm). Very odd.

Also my shoulder has started to hurt in an ominous lupus way. Hope it passes, or at least stays low enough for me to get the colostrum out. Incidentally I am not leaky even in the slightest. Nothing about my boobs has changed at all.

Hope u got back to sleep honey
(Loves me a bit of Call the MW )

My boobs are already leaky - nothing that requires pads or anything, but I rather dislike the vaguely milky aroma. I am a bit worried about milkyness in general as I really don't like milk/cheese etc and the smell in particular. I'm sure I'll get used to /over it, but it's definitely not my favourite aspect of pg n babies!

Morning all, honey I hope you got back to sleep - reflux is worse in the night I think. It's burns more.

DS slept! Granted we didn't put him down until 9pm but he didn't make a peep until 7am! Gx long may this continue I feel like a new woman. Well, mentally at least. Physically the smallest Thurs just wiggled so much the bed moved.

sock I'm well jel of the strictly show, bloody love love love that jive! I'm also pleased you got Jake with Jeanette instead of Awful Andre

5hell I never noticed the milky smell so gx you just get used to it. I didn't get any milk in until I felt well after DS birth and expected same again. My boobs are huge though, they make my head look tiny. And my nipples are really dark!

I realised yesterday I hadn't left the house in an age, over 48 hours so DS and I going for a run around the park with friends later.

honey boobs like babies are all different. Don't worry if they don't leak and don't try to express as you can cause contractions (unless you want to csuse contractions) there will be many homonal changes after birth and your body will know what to do...

Regarding the reflux. See your doctor. I was needing half a bottle of gaviscon a day so he gave me Ranitidine which helped for a week and stopped working... now I am on Omeprazole and it is completely gone! You don't need to suffer!

Hopefully your shoulder will sort itself out and you just slept funny or something. I know what it is like worrying that the autoimmune disease will interfere in caring for your baby but you and I both know that anxiety will make it worse so do your best to put ot outta your mind. You need to trust that your body is going to do it's job and if for some reason there is something you can't do your baby will be fine regardless

Sky you're awesome.

I got back to sleep eventually, was awake for about two hours. Good practice for a night feed?

5hell I know what you mean about the milky smell... Always hovering on the edge of rancid, IMO.

Thursday staying in is awesome! But yeah, going out is good too. Glad DS slept. Is he still proving difficult?

Well, we had a good night last night after he napped yesterday. Hopefully his fricking cough is getting better...but who knows?

It really doesn't get any easier to interpret their needs as they get older!

glad it's not just me honey and glad you had a good night thurs

going to buy the hammock today to cheer myself up

Pray, what is this hammock you speak of 5hell?

Lil you could never be so unintentionally rude, so I wouldn't worry about any offence you may have caused!

Also had a crappy night. Couldn't get to sleep and when I eventually did, I woke up at 2am....and stayed awake until around 4am. And I have a stupidly stupidly busy day, am running 45 minutes late and going to miss the start of my 10am meeting. Which gives me no time to prepare for my 11am. And I haven't charged my work phone so can't email the person I need to email. RARRRRGHHHHH!!!!! Soz you had a rubbish night too Honey.

Glad you had a good sleep Thurs. Now go outside before you develop agoraphobia

Just catching up...
Shell so sorry about your mum's bad news. Hopefully her positive outlook and treatment will work well.
Best wishes for your sister Mermaid.
Pee I asked my gyn about the position of the placenta at every appointment and she kept telling me it was too early, until the 22 week scan, then she said it was fine.
Lil there's no coming back from eating your chocolate bar... LTB
Sorry you felt attacked Feathered but I can see why people get defensive. I have quite a few friends who've done the GF/ night nanny/ strict routine thing. If it works for them, that's fine but it doesn't suit me. I'm not a routine person at all and I'm already bloody sick of being lectured about how necessary they are. I haven't even had the baby yet, so I guess it will get even worse until I reach similar levels of anger! It's unfortunate that the built up rage was unleashed in your direction!
Sorry you left the fb group Thurs. I will post a birth announcement on here when I pop but won't go into any details. I'm a bit paranoid about being identified on the open site so I might wait a day or two and definitely no specifics. Maybe best to ask on fb if someone minds before posting anything about their birth over here?
I'm feeling very fat and constipated today. Four days in France eating cheese and cake did me no favours. The parties were fun in the end, I even sniffed out another preggo to share stories over sparkling water.

Hi everyone! Sorry for the radio Fred silence, I've not really had a chance to get on here since Friday. Ive been on FB but appreciate not everyone is on there!

Honey thanks for updating everyone :) as she said, birth didn't go to "plan" but the most important thing is she's here happy and healthy. I won't post my birth story on here because for some of you newer grads I think might be a bit scary but if anyone wants to know just pm me and I'll give you the full details!

Long and short of it though was I developed sepsis during labour and ended up with a forceps delivery so baby and I have had to stay in for a few days. Hoping to go home today or tomorrow. But she was born at 5:30am on saturday and is absolutely beautiful.

I hope you are all doing ok, I've not read back fully but I see a few of you are going through some rough times. Big hugs to you all and I'll be checking on here often for updates (and posting between boobing sessions!!)

Gosh. I have just read back and I am so sorry Jelly. I think I said too much. I think I forget... I spend so much time on the FB group and thinking about you lot that I forget that this is a public space and it's not up to me what information other people choose to share. I also think I have a fairly relaxed attitude to intervention so don't think it's a big deal to mention, but I realise now that other people might have a different perspective on it. I'm really sorry. I will report my post.

Ah jelly so glad to hear from you! I'm sorry things didn't go quite to your plan, happens to the best of us sadly. I hope you get to go home soon

My tuppence worth on the routine debate is that some mums, and some babies thrive using them. It's as unpleasant for them to be demonised for that as it is for 'gentle' parents to feel lectured. Live and live. The patriarchy must be pissing itself as the women keep each other in their place.

I didn't mean to be goady Honey, maybe it's just me being paranoid. I have a LOT of preggos/ new mums in my friends, family and clients and I often wonder if any of them are lurking amongst us slinks down behind newspaper

Not at all Fruit, you are right!

Hope you are both recovering Jelly, very well done for getting through a difficult birth and doing what was best for Jellybaby, you're a star.

Managed to make it in for my meeting! Which ended up being cut short! YES!

Sending a hug your way Jelly and everything crossed for a quick healing and recovery process. Looking forward to seeing more pics of your gorgeous daughter.

Lil just re-read your posts and stifled a laugh. My DH did the same with some cheesy puffs I had secreted away for myself. I had revealed I had a little stash of puffs to him on Saturday afternoon and gave him a small bowl before hiding them away again. Then last night he proudly announced that he had been unable to control himself, had hunted around the kitchen until he found them and ate them all. He offered me a slice of bread and butter to compensate. I raged.

Fruit it's funny what riles people up. For me it's the lectures of "you'll have to adapt to very little sleep" and "go with the flow" and "baby will tell you what s/he needs and when" - i.e. you'll have no control over your life. Whilst that might end up being the case to say that to someone like me who a) has a type A personality and b) thrives on some semblance of routine and order, is tantamount to injecting pure panic attack into my bloodstream. Luckily I have an extremely robust ego, so I can deal with perceived attacks well and don't really care if the GF routines turn out to be hilariously unattainable!

Pee I'm also a book person

Sock it would not be at all wrong to name Socklet after the jiving legend that is Jay. I loved strictly this year! Glad your parents are super excited (maybe drop a hint about how expensive prams are whilst they're still caught up in the moment?)

Can I ask those further along what kind of cots/mini cots they've gone for? Do you have something for baby to sleep in downstairs, or are you using a pram cot/sleepyhead?

Right. WORK.

Ah yes ^ exactly what Thursday said!

Feathered we have a "swinging crib" from John Lewis to use immediately. Didn't see point in a Moses basket as won't last till six months. We also have a cot bed for when they go to their own room.

thanks fruit (and everyone else) ...having a few random cries (Wogan news and resultant occasional sad tunes on radio aren't helping). Agree her attitude is great, but selfishly I could do with a little more info with which to prepare myself, and web is no help either as you get miracle stories of 10+ yr survival or 10 months.

This is the hammock we're getting feathered ...have just had an urge to get it since I first saw it, like that it also packs up small so can double as travel cot for a fair while, of course no idea if chubs will like it!

france sounds lovely fruit ...a couple of days with plenty of fruit n veg should sort you out on the bloaty front.

hi jelly waves congratulations again hope the boobing gets easier

Feathered Chicco Next2Me for the first few months - we'll buy a cot bed later on when he grows out of it. Relatively small 2 bedroom apartment here, and we also have the slight quirk that I don't share a room with my DH because he has a sleep disorder.

We've got a swinging crib too for first 6 months. I think it's mothercare one (got it from relatives). Then cot. Last time DS slept in the pram downstairs, but it was a pita to wash pram wheels every time (he was November born so it was wet and muddy), and not sure I'll have time and energy to do it with 2. I'm thinking of getting a travel cot that has 2 heights. Moses baskets don't look very sturdy on those stands when you have a nosy toddler.

I'm not very happy with mini carrot's movements today. I've felt it move but just a couple wiggles, no Kung fu sessions like it normally does. Have drank some fanta and getting a few wiggles, but nothing spectacular... How long do I give it before I call them? An hour?