August 2016-with Berries turning into Beans and a whole lotta fun ahead!

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2nd thread for the ever increasing August 2016 bumps

No saucy dreams here! Will look forward to those

Lily sorry to hear you're unwell, hope you start to pick up soon.

Agree with others once I've read through & post I forget half of what's been said ! it is such a worrying time isn't it, I feel reassured in an odd way I'm not the only one worrying so much, I just want 12 weeks here!

It still baffles me how they calculate it

Feeling less sick this morn (admittedly V early. Another thing all over my sleep!)

Hope everyone is feeling well today

Pretty my mum is an identical twin, and she had non identical twins, I've been wondering if I might be having them as I have been so much more nauseous than previously, guess we'll have to wait and see.. I know one sort is a fluke and the other isn't but can't remember which, also have heard that they skip a generation or something?? I am one of 6 girls and none of my sisters have had them...

Lily sounds like you are really having a tough time, hope they make you feel better soon!

You're in the best place lily! Big hugs for you and your bump.

Well I got away with a singleton with dd, don't know if I'd cope with twins! We are the only twins in the family so hopefully we were just a one off. Triplets! Wow!! That's amazing!

Re looking at early scans, I'm booked in for one at 8+3 and the place near me only charges £40, and you get a 10% discount if you book online too! For that I just can't say no!

Hope everyone is feeling well today, the days seem to have started dragging so much!

fly thanks! 9 weeks on Monday, I'm just counting the days until we are 12 weeks when I'm expecting a miracle in terms of feeling better. If my cough would leave me alone in sure that would help too.
My midwife referred me to the perinatal mental health team too but I suspect by the time they get in contact I will be in second trimester.

lily I hope they take good care of you, best place for you to try and get some nutrition into you.

christine don't feel guilty about the prenatals! You can only do what you can do.

No saucy dreams here but I have had very odd vivid ones where I feel like it must be real. It makes for a disturbed night.

Welcome to the newbies!

Mrssantaclause it's a possibility with the non identical twins she had! Perhaps she's passed it to you. I think the skipping a generation thing is an old wives tale, but I guess the gene could remain dormant in you and get passed actively to your children. And as like your mum's non identical twins and my mums non identical twins....its got to start somewhere!!

pipo yes to the wretching relieving the sickness! My last pregnancy was the same

Seem to have one good day and one bad!

Get well soon Lily! I know being in hospital isn't fun but it's the best thing for you at the moment. I hope they're taking good care of you

Can I please ask a question about 12 week scans? I'd read they're called combined screening tests because they also do a blood test screening for Down's, Edwards & Patau's syndrome whilst you are there. Is this right? How soon after having the ultrasound so you find out the results of the blood test?

shary when I went in previous pg, they measured the nucal fold on the back of the baby's neck, then did a blood test. They combine these two tests to give you a chance of downs syndrome, eg 1 in 23000 chance of downs etc. I don't know about tests for other syndromes, they were not mentioned, maybe they only mention if they think there is a chance.

I got sent this info in a letter. I would imagine if you have a very high chance of downs ie 1 in 4 they would probably phone you but I don't know. They will probably give you leaflets about this testing at your booking in or at the 12 week scan.

You can choose to not have the screening if you wish.

Bear in mind all health authorities will be a bit different!

On the topic of screening, I am seriously considering the 'Harmony' test thing-but it's £400... Has anyone done it and is it really a lot of different from the combined screening the NHS do? I know you can get gender early (and pretty much definitively, compared with scanning) but on the genetic problems side, how is it different. Would anyone recommend it??

As far as I know, harmony will tell you definitely if there are genetic problems. I'd have the scan first and pay for harmony if that looked like bad odds. But that's just me, I'm tight and don't want to know the sex before birth!

Thanks Owlina

Just had a look at the NHS website. I'm interpreting from this that screening for Down's Syndrome is offered routinely at 12 weeks but screening for Edwards & Patau's isn't going to be available for ALL women on the NHS until this April. I'm assuming that's why some people opt from the Harmony test as that looks for Edwards & Patau's? Am I reading that right?

www.nhs.uk/Conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/screening-amniocentesis-downs-syndrome.aspx

Shary at the end of that article it says you can choose to have a screening for One or all or none, so I assume you make it clear to your midwife what you want? Definitely something to ask about at my next appointment!

Hi, happy new year all! Hope you're all feeling good...
I have my booking appt with the midwife on Monday. Does anyone know if I'm expected to bring a FMU sample with me? I wasn't given a urine sample pot when I first saw the nurse to get the booking appt made... According to my own dates I'll be 9.1 on Monday. Still struggling with nausea and food aversions and over sensitivity to smells. Really struggling to find anything I want to eat. x

Girl I didn't take one (didn't know I was meant to) but when I turned up she asked if I'd brought one... Have to bring one to my next appt which will be bloods-so if I were you, take one if you can find something suitable to put it in (or pop to your surgery today and pick a pot up? Boots might have some...?) the pot I've been given is 20ml so they don't needs loads...! Sorry you're feeling crappy :-(

Anyone else feeling light headed? I'm quite wobbly today, despite having eaten this morning and spending most of the day sitting on my backside

Yeah after throwing up as per this morning I feel really shaky and unbalanced

I've been retching this morning, but no throwing up as such. Just feeling really weird.

I think the scan and blood tests just give you a risk factor that they might have a genetic condition, e.g 1 in 10 or such like. So you don't know for definite and would have to decide what to do based on risk.
Whereas the harmony test actually tells you if they have a genetic disorder. So you know for definite.

I'm not sure what I will do as husband doesn't want screening but I would probably prefer it.

Thanks for your suggestions to my earlier query, esp four and fly. So far I've not got a midwife, just told the gp who referred me straight to the hospital for all the scans I believe as she did ask if I wanted screening. I think she included my travel dates in the referral. Not heard anything yet with the hols. Think I will go for an early private scan out of curiosity (though £40 is not-to-be-refused bargain I doubt I'd find down here!) and am also thinking of harmony even though I'm not certain of my decision should my chances be high/definite for downs. DP has made it clear it's my call. I hear you owlina getting nhs test first though harmony can be done from 10 weeks then it's a two week wait for results which starts getting on if you don't go ahead.

Don't know if anyone else is having the same problem or I'm alone but I'm having a bit of trouble with the OHs family. Obviously we haven't been together long so I completely understand that it was a surprise and although no one has gone out of their way to make me feel like this I can't help but pick little things up. On NYE their was me, OH family and friends and at midnight his mum was the only person not to give me a hug and say happy new year. I know I could have made the first move but everyone's going round acknowledging eachother and she didn't even look my way so i didn't bother. I wasn't offered a drink all night while everyone else got pissed. She said "there's some non alcoholic drinks over there" but I'm a guest and as no one else was drinking it it would mean me popping open my own bottle and making myself a drink. Don't get me wrong I'm not a princess that doesn't do stuff for themselves but in my home guests are made to feel more than welcome. My pregnancy then came up in conversation and his mum and auntie both said they never found out the sex of their babies and that it spoils the surprise, you can buy unisex colours and you shouldn't ruin it. Even after me saying we were it wasn't like "that's your decision" it was "oh nooo we never did that!" And then his auntie said "I've got a cot you can have" I'm sure these comments weren't made to make me feel uncomfortable but they did. I know that they're family and it's not like it's none of their business but at the end of the day this child only has one mum and that's me. You can tell me stories about your experiences or give me advice but don't frown upon my decisions as a parent. And offering me a cot is a lovely guesture but I don't want second hand things for my baby. I'm sure it's different with your second baby and so on but with the first I want everything to be new and chosen by us. AIBU?

Christine maybe a bit over sensitive but maybe with reason. In our house you get your own drink or you'll go thirsty. Particularly if you're family. Actual guests don't feel quite so as at home so they get the first few. My sister and BIL go straight for the fridge with their drinks and help themselves. So maybe his family on NYE were trying to be like that. Unless they were fetching everyone else drinks and leaving you out?

Regarding second hand.... That's a nice offer. You can get a new mattress. I'm taking my friends Moses basket and buying a new mattress for it. That may have been an olive branch from his family. Unless it's super ugly then perhaps say no ;)

Try not to let these negative thoughts cloud your judgement of them... Once they get in they multiply and can make you alienate them. We're hormonal and often unreasonable at the moment... As poor DP is finding out.

And you'll never stop the "when I was pregnant" stories. Take em on the chin and take the information you want/need from them. You'll be fine.

It was weird with my in laws. There's a big age gap between us, 17 years! And they live miles and miles away so the first time I met them I was pregnant which was a bit odd I will admit, although they were lovely!

I didn't find out sex with dd, was absolutely convinced I was having a boy so at the birth it was a shock. I will find out this time though, from the point of veiw of keeping things it'll be easier, and also it'll help get dd geared up for a brother or a sister!

Christine I do think the gesture by the aunt was an honest, kind one-while I'm sure we would all love to have brand new everything, the little bit of research I've been doing into baby paraphernalia, none of it comes cheap! I am looking at second hand nursery furniture on the basis that the money saved would be better off in a super safe car seat, or full car service and safety overhaul or a practical but stylish buggy, or swimming lessons...

I think the mother may still be trying to process the news-like you say you guys haven't been together long so it will have come as a shock to her-I don't think you should take it too heart (although easier said than done at the moment while we are feeling so vulnerable I know!!) and she probably just assumed your DP would help you out re drinks.

I think as soon as you announce you are pregnant, people can't help but give their opinion on EVERYTHING! We are going to have to get used to people questioning our decisions and choices, especially if they differ from 'tradition' or the norm. I think as time goes on, you get to know his family, they'll get to know you and as your pregnancy progresses, you'll feel more comfortable with them and learn to brush off any unwanted opinions or comments. Talk with your DP about it though :-)

Thank you for the lovely well wishes! I'm all over the place at the moment as the bright red only lasted two wipes and now it's back to brown watery discharge occasionally! Feeling really queasy today and my boobs feel bruised. Also have horrendous toothache and sore gums, not sure if that relaTed!!
Will get my second hcg on Monday and then hopefully a scan next week. Just hate the waiting!!

I think I'm anaemic and I've just taken some iron water, hopefully it will help. I've got no energy, I'm dizzy and I've frequent headaches. I'm 9+3 today. Sick as usual, can only face pizza bread (tomato purée and cheese on toast), dry biscuits and fruit. Everything else is off!
Lily hope you're ok?
Christine I'm finding out the sex as I have done with my other 2. Lot do and lots don't it's a personal thing. As for 2nd hand you've lot me there-ALL my last babies stuff was 2nd hand! Cot from my sister, buggy from my sister, clothes and other equipment hand me downs and car boot sales! if I have a boy I will need clothes but otherwise I've got girls clothes from my one year old! (All monsoon and gorgeous) Even if it's a boy he's going to go in a pink bath seat and pink bouncy chair! my sister is giving me an out and about double nipper 360 too which was hers, I already have the single. The only thing I am going to invest in is a connecta sling as I used a cheaper sling last time and it was crap!