Due May 2007 - Thread for week commencing 11/12/06

[Juicythe2ndnotsowiseman]

Hi Girls,

Back from Geordieland!

Glad to hear you're having a fab time with your DH LG&T. Assume the ball was fabulous too and the champers flowed.

MKG - Got the nose bleeds too, but only intermitently. Thank Goodness.

Bethnalhembub - my 20wk scan is on the 16th too. Is your's at the Royal too?? Mine is 9am.

Got my mw appt today. Hoping she listens to heartbeat. Am getting anxious as little weight gain and it's too early for me to feel movement as this is my first, so convinced all is not well - pure pg-panic mode.

Pebble - sorry your DH is being a bit of a tw*t. Sounds like he needs to grow up a bit and make some grown up choices. He needs to put you and the kids first and give his mum a good talking too. She's only bluffing with the ultimatum. If he tells her how it's going to be she won't risk loosing him. MIL's - ARRRGGGHHH

I did hypnobirthing with ds and it was wonderful!!! I recommend it to everyone I know (people think I'm crazy, because lamaze is the "done" thing around here" I have Marie Mongan's book and CD. I will admit I didn't listen to the CD, but the book is great. It's easy to read, and is broken up really well.

Kel, the one thing about hypnobirthing is letting go of your fears. It's the hardest thing in the world to do, but it's necessary. It got me through an induction without using any pain relief. I slept through most of the labor and pushing. I know I started pushing at 6pm when I finished I said, "That was fast" my husband looked at me like I was crazy, I said, "It was only what 15 minutes", he said "look at the clock, it's 8:12pm"

I though hypnobirthing was a load of crap before my labor, but after I realized that it really does work.

12DOC - funny you should say that - I mentioned to DH he too could look like Daniel Craig (body wise) as he's about the same build if he worked out a bit more. DH was NOT impressed

I will be giving the hole hypnobirthing a whirl in preparation for the worst. I'm going to plan for a home birth and think that will help (but if I get half way through and feel the need for drugs, it's only 50 yards away!).
Planning is one thing. The reality is very likely to be VERY different

Right I want your honest opinion on DH's Christmas present.

I have no money at all- buying a house, having a baby, buying for others etc and I am becoming a bit hormonal about not being able to buy DH something (started knitting some gloves, left them unattended and the cats have totally mauled them ). I've had an idea, but am sure it's just the product of a desperate, hormonal and failing imagination.

I work in a non-Western arts library and I'm currently working on some Indonesian books. I have found a lovely little old Indonesian poem about companionship and thought I could copy it out in Bahasa Indonesian and in English- fancy calligraphy maybe- and put each bit in either side of one of those double photo frames. I'm fairly arty and have lots of crafty stuff so could jazz it up and prettify it. When we got married my Dad did this for us with a cartoon of me and DH on one side and the Homer quote "There is nothing nobler or more admirable than when two people who see eye to eye keep house as man and wife, confounding their enemies and delighting their friends" on the other. I treasure that gift, but is it because I'm a soppy female?

I honestly can't afford anything and burst into tears when I think about not getting him anything.

Help!

I think it's a great idea. You guys are going through a lot of changes this year, and it's nice to know that you're doing it together. The gift will represent that.

Busy busy day. Appt with consultant 9.15 this am. She heard heartbeat (after a bit of a search) - phew and then found blood in my urine so started muttering about my cervix. Had to go back to hosp and the Fetal Health Unit (who are v nice but I have lots of bad memories of there) for a scan - which turned out to be v nice because all was well AND I got to see LO - so weird, can even see fingers etc. Actually, i say it was nice, it was until they wanted to do an internal scan and came towards me with a probe that looked like something out of the BIG shelf on Ann Summers - and it had a condom on. Rest assured that it doesn't hurt if anyone ends up in that situation....PHEW

Consultant also started talkinga bout the fact that I might have to have a C-section because I had a 3rd degree tear last time and DS was 9lb 5. Much more scared of cs than of nat birth - in fact, despite tear, I still loved giving birth naturally and would really want to do that again. Having said that, if it means that i am (ssshhhh) incontinent afterwards then I am VERy happy to go for c-s.
I have just ordered some cds that my yoga teacher from last preg suggested I use. They are meant to help with relaxation during preg and in birth so will let you know what I think - certainly found that kind of thing helpful last time round.
Must go, noone in house, going to SLEEP

I think the idea Juicy, is that the hypnobirthing will change your attitude. So you won't be saying, "prepare for the worst", because (my hypnotherapist for another thing said) that simply focuses you on failure. You "prepare to succeed" and let go of your fears of bad things happening.

The idea being that if you have a positive attitude, you'll be more likely to have a positive outcome.

You know how people who are always moaning about how terrible their life is, actually never seem to have any luck? It's because most of them focus on bad stuff. (Granted I'm sure there are jsut some unfortunate f'ckers out there!).

Hypnotherapy is designed to fix that negative side of us and that even if things don't go to plan, you'll see be able to be positive about what's happening and deal with it.

And that, my friends, is my armchair psychology for today.

Glad your appt went well(?) Anneme. At least you got to see your LO again. Always worth any hospital hassle IMO!

12DOC - I get the theory. I might actually believe I'm going full term by the time I get into the hypno

Generally I'm really optimistic. My DH is the pessimist. But since my mc I keep thinking the worst (to protect myself from disappointment if anything happens).

I'm hoping once I've had the 20wk scan that I'll feel more positive and really start to believe I'm going all the way. That way I'll be able to get the most out of the rest of the pg. But thanks for your psycho-pep talk anyway

Hello all - this is a vv fleeitng visit as boss is sat next to me today. booo.
hello to one and all. Congrats to everyone who heard their lo's heartbeats, chuffed for you aswell JL xx

Ok - you are all going to think Im menkle.
On the subject of dreams....
erm..
I had a naughty dream last night. But it wasnt about dp or about Daniel Craig.
Brace yourselves.

It was about Jordan.

hangs head in shame and runs off
(in my defence I was reading Ok mag before bed?)

There is no defence!

Waaahhhaaa. That is VERY funny.

I don't know who Jordan is.

shes here
www.jordanfanclub.co.uk/

im not that way inclined. dont know what came over me! funny though. dp was horrified! ah hahaha .

It was def the Ok interview, honest guv!

MKG - She's a "glamour" model, who gets her tits out at the drop of the hat. She is now attempting a singing career with her one-hit- wonder-in-the-80's husband.

Classy is not a word you would use in association with her.

RRBK - poor you. I hope you have a better fantasy friend tonight!!

She looks like a Pam Anderson wanna be.

RRBK - are you sure you are not a fan? You know her website (note to self to have a look and confirm that Jordan is completely bonkers)

I know what you mean Juicy - after mc you can't really believe that everything is going to be OK. Having said, I was not too twitchy today (ie did not start crying when we got to fetal health) because I had heard heartbeat - then I started worrying that I was being too relaxed....can't win. I think if you get to this stage then you are onto a pretty good thing.
btw - I found last time that, actually, by the time it was time to give birth I was quite relieved - there is only so much beached whaleness that you can take.

Have spent all afternoon lying down eating cheese muffins - work xmas do tonight so got to go and find something to wear....big sack i think.

It's probably safe now.

BTW - TPT, still 8.5 sheets although I did need to let out the waist of my maternity trousers a little today. I think the TPT is staying the same because we're measuring round the belly button and currently the uterus is somewhere underneath the belly button. So our shape is changing, but not necessarily waistline just yet.

That's my theory anyway. Like, I still have a waistline at the moment though I don't know how much longer it will survive.

OMG, OMGPMSL, ..... JORDAN???? Gaah, ha ha ha haaaaaa....

Ok. Wow. And I thought I had bizarro dreams.

And yes, after my natural birth I am, sadly, (quiet voice) a bit incontinent. Nobody will ever convince me that natural birth is a lovely experience... not in my world anyway! Funny, usually I'm very positive. And I was. Till I got my birth got all f'cked up....

letitshnow, your pressie idea for your dh sounds perfect. i kinda hate christmas (bah-humbug) because it has turned into a stressfest of spending money just because i am supposed to. giving store bought, plastic gifts is no longer a fun thing to me. i much prefer to give and receive handmade treats and treasures. things that you can keep forever and that mean something. i am trying to make as many presents as i can this year and actually made something for my dh that is very similar to what you are making for your dh. i took some photos of birds flying around and printed them tiny right in the middle of big pieces of paper and also printed out a line of lyrics from one of his favorite songs, also tiny in the middle of big paper. i am so excited to give it to him. i think he will love it. there isn't much time left but if you need help with the type placement or fonts etc please let me know. i have some experience with it all and would love to help.
i am in the middle of putting together a new questionnaire. should be done today.
one of my pals from london is coming to see me this afternoon. any moment now. i am so excited. he is going to want to hear all about what is going on here. he thinks the idea of me getting to know a group of gals so far away is hilarious. my sep 2005 an thread was full of drama, drama, drama and he loved getting the synopsis. i wonder what i will tell him about you... probably something about daniel craig and jordan. not together though. gross.
how about this for a labor technique:
deny that is it even going to happen.
do you think that might work?
i am too traumatized from the last one to start thinking seriously about this one yet. i hate labor. hate it. i haven't really dealt with my feelings from last time let alone started to plan for the next one. i guess i had better get on that.

you can find the new questionnaire here .

Hi All,

Been in Ireland today working and should be doing some more now, but quite frankly, can?t be ar#ed!!!

MKG ? funny, I slept through most of my labour too, but I think mine was more due to the regular pethadine/meptid injections I insisted on . Can I just add, I highly recommend them too!!!!! Glad hypnobirthing worked for you though. Did you do it without any painkillers then? Bizarrely, my mum gave me some excellent advice before my last labour (my mum?s advice isn't usually spot-on). She was talking about injections/waxing etc and how they always hurt more if you tense up, and if you relax your muscles it?s far less painful. She said the best way to get through labour is to let yourself just relax and go limp (I think ?like a lettuce? came up in the conversation ). So, I tried it and it did actually work quite well. I just let the contraction waves just wash over me. Doubt that will be any use whatsoever for anyone else, but it did work for me.

Letitshnow, I LOVE your present idea!!! That brought tears to my eyes! I?d be so chuffed if someone did that for me. Homemade presents are so much more special than bought ones.

RRBK, LOL!!!! Was this an aspirational dream?? I just read in my S.Times that top of the list of people young women aspire to is Colleen thingy Wayne?s missus. That to me is very frightening. BTW, Jordan was up there too.

I?ve got my first MW apt tomorrow. Quite scared. However, I?m eating my words a little here. I did say a few days ago that you don?t feel movement this early. I think I?m talking nonsense. I?m sure I?ve felt something in there. Not a kick exactly, more of a stomach rolling sensation. V.odd. Hope I?m right. Keep all 20 fingers crossed for me at 9am please?

Hey Jonah, NO I didn't have any pain relief. Here it's epidural or nothing, and I dilated very quickly from 4-10 cm in 45 minutes. At 4 centimeters I didn't really have much pain, I was getting through it really well. Before I knew I was 10 I was on the verge of asking for something because I thought I still had hours ahead of me. When the midwife checked me she said "OK, you're ready to push. Once the pushing started the pain just went away." It was funny, my husband said everyone was running around, because since I was induced and no one though I was going to delivery the same day they took all the baby equipment out. He says they were running to get the room ready for a baby. Two hours later ds made his appearance.

I go in to childbirth with the attitude of "Whatever" that was my birthplan. Drugs, whatever, C-section whatever. That way I won't be disappointed with the result. I don't have my heart set on a natural birth, I take what I get.

MKG can I just say how I am about your dilation? Lucky girl!!! I think it took me 2 days of solid contractions (and every narcotic drug at the hospital) to get me from 'fingertip' to 4cm...