Due May 2007 - Thread for week commencing 11/12/06

[Juicythe2ndnotsowiseman]

Hi Girls,

Back from Geordieland!

Glad to hear you're having a fab time with your DH LG&T. Assume the ball was fabulous too and the champers flowed.

MKG - Got the nose bleeds too, but only intermitently. Thank Goodness.

Bethnalhembub - my 20wk scan is on the 16th too. Is your's at the Royal too?? Mine is 9am.

Got my mw appt today. Hoping she listens to heartbeat. Am getting anxious as little weight gain and it's too early for me to feel movement as this is my first, so convinced all is not well - pure pg-panic mode.

Pebble - sorry your DH is being a bit of a tw*t. Sounds like he needs to grow up a bit and make some grown up choices. He needs to put you and the kids first and give his mum a good talking too. She's only bluffing with the ultimatum. If he tells her how it's going to be she won't risk loosing him. MIL's - ARRRGGGHHH

oooh my goodness, I can't believe some of the things you DH's and IL's are doing to y'all... ... it makes me realise that my DH must be one of the very few out there worth his weight in gold. Don't get me wrong, he's had his idiotic moments (but so have I) and in the end, he seems to see reason. He's a very caring father too, it makes me really upset to hear these other men being such insensitive wankers!!! Do they think these kids raise themselves????

Bought some krispy kremes today, a 3 day supply (6) It was so worth almost not having enough to pay for parking. When did parking get so expensive (WTF???)

Over the weekend I also indulged in a glass of champers and a couple of glasses of wine with dinner. Not often that I get to go out twice in a weekend. Or a week. Or a month, for that matter... and it does no harm based on what I can see from DS.

sorry im back now was just very very p@@@ssed off at dhs job hes only been doing it for two weeks coz he stormed out of his other one after amassive arguement with his brother {so hes already been off for two months with no wages}ive managed to sort out bills n stuff but was going xmas shopping today mum was having kids after school id booked a day off work and then he phoned to say he had to do extra hours so wouldnt be home till later not is fault i know but my hormones got the better off me . definately needed the virtual hug thanks looks really petty now ive got it off my chest and we did end up going eventually ok moan over i promise to be full of festive cheer from now on

I havent seen this alcohol thread you all are talking about but i just heard some great news on the TV. I have always been under the impression that you shouldnt drink when breast feeding (although ive always had the crafty one or two or three ) but now we have been given the go ahead to drink a couple of beers a day for the first few days after giving birth. Apparantly it helps the milk to come in I heard it on Birth Days on Living Tv so it must be true

LVB&T im so at you having your scan so soon. I know mines only a few weeks away but it seems like forever and i really want to know what flavour it is. I keep thinking its a girl but then call it little man when i speak to it, if i dont find out soon i will go mad. I think we are both the same hoping for a girl arent we? I have a gorgeous pink dress wrapped up in my bedroom (it was for a cousin but i never got to give it to her) and i really really want to use it. I havent dared unwrap it in case i jinx myself. Ive also made a big show of keeping lots of blue things. My strange pregnancy theory is that if i prepare for a boy i may be lucky enough to have a girl. When i was pg with ds1 my mum knitted lots of girlie type cardigans and with ds2 my MIL bought me some lovely pink piglet vests and pink socks and of course i never got to use them. Oh well i only have to wait until 2nd Jan to see if my theory has worked

I have to say in defence of husbands, mine is a super star- took 8yrs to train him that way but he's the kindest, sweetest and most supportive man and my best friend too. Okay, gushy bit over. I'm sure I'll be moaning about him in a week when he commits some terrible misdemeanour like eating the last of my chocolate!

I'm loving the theory on plan for one gender, get the other. So if I think pink I can have a boy, right?!

DH runs a restaurant/bar/hotel and they've just had a huge refurb. They reopened tonight for family and friends only, so free food and drink. Had yummy lasagne and apple pie and custard. Only orange squash to drink though- I'm teetotal and they'd run out of orange n cranberry J2O, shame on them.

Anyway, going to put the ironing away and go to bed... oh the exciting life I lead...

Im off to bed now, hopefully by the time Dh comes in i will be snoring my head off Maybe he will be a bit more talkative tomorrow (i wont hold my breath) I actually dont care except im supposed to be going for Christmas dinner at ds1's school (oh lucky me, school dinners again!! thought i was safe from them the moment i left school)and i need Dh to look after ds2 for an hour or so while im gone. I know he should as he is his father but i hate having to rely on him when he is acting stupid, he seems to get it in his head that i couldnt cope without him

Anyway goodnight ladies, hope you all sleep well (i expect most of you are already in bed, especially LVB&T, nudge nudge wink wink)

morning all off to work now so ill catch up with you all in a couple of days.good luck for everyone with scans etc take care xx

JL- where are you?!?!!?

Second time you've had an appointment and not updated immediately. Hope everything went okay and I am awaiting a full report. [impatient]

Morning all and happy TPT- still 8 sheets here, no change there then.

The thread's too quiet atm, we need Jessinwa with one of her quizzes... come on, I know you're all out there somewhere.

I'll tell you about the dream I had last night...

MMMmmmmm... Daniel Craig in swimming trunks...

[thunk]

Morning! Everybody who has had previous pregnancies do my stretch mark survey please! www.mumsnet.com/Talk?rn=32699&topicid=49&threadid=251967&redir=32699

Going to catch up on thread now. Back in a bit.

Doh, link, link. link

Morning girls. M/W appt went well. She wasn't sure she would be able to hear the heartbeat, but she did and we even heard the little pod do a flip, which was fun.

Feeling lots better today and just going to try to enjoy not putting on loads of weight yet (instead of being desperate for the bump to grow). Still look like I ate all the pies though.

Katybumps - glad it wasn't anything serious. Hope you're having a better day today

Bethnalhembub - I heard that Homerton is nicer (friendlier?), but I don't know about better. I think we'll be ok at Londons biggest hospital, don't you? They must be doing something right to get that big in the first place (surely??)
How funny is that, that our appts are the same time! Shall I wear a red carnation

Some men are plonkers. Stay strong girls. Luckily my DH is well removed from his family and even more cynical about them than me (no mean feat). Even more luckily IL's live abroad, so no interference!

Had a pg-hormone onslaught last night and fell out with my sister over theatre tickets / arrangements / memorial dates. Felt really horrible straight after and rang to apologise, but these hormones are straight out of left base sometimes. Took DH about 2 seconds to make me realise I was totally out of order. Luckily my sister understood. After all she's gone through the last thing she needs is an erratic hormonal terrorist on her hands

Flippin 'eck SOH, give us a chance

I've learned my lesson gov, honest I have!!

Bloomin' 'eck. I am not impressed with these husbands and partners. Making you pay for your own McDonalds is just plain childish and I think you're great Pebble, giving the kids a great Christmas anyway.

And as for the "saving for the maternity leave". Eh, hello? What happened to what's mine is yours and yours is mine? For richer for poorer? FGS. It really riles me. Resourses should be pooled. If you want to get financial about it, if your husband earns 75% of the household income, then he pays 75% of the HOUSEHOLD costs. And if you're not getting paid for 9 months, then that means he pays 100% of the household costs for those 9 months. It's very simple. You're having HIS baby after all. And surely his savings are your savings anyway? (God forbid, but if you split up they'd be half yours.) If he was clever, he'd put them in your name anyway as it would be more tax efficient if you're not a high earner.

And having a baby IS the rainy day he's saving for. Pushchairs, nursury furniture etc. It's a one off exceptional expense. Tsk. I'm very with these men.

For all my whining about my DH, he's good in so many ways and I forget that too often.

Juicy, glad all went well, but this still isn't speedy enough. We'll be asking Bethnalhembub how your 20wk scan went.

It's very simple- have appointment, rush home at breakneck speed to update random bunch of Internet strangers. None of this getting on with real life nonsense.

We don't have arguments over money chez SOH- neither of us has any!! In fact, is anybody else appalled at how measly paternity leave is? 2 weeks at £106pw? Weren't they supposed to be changing it? Thankfully I get 6 months on full pay, 3 on stat so it makes it easier, but I'd swap it to have DH home for a bit longer than 2 weeks.

RRBK - I've just spent a fortune on american apparal. I'm holding you entirely responsible (well I'll be telling DH it's all your fault!)

Totally agree with 12DOC on these crappy DH / DP's. WTF?? Money is joint, especially when you're starting a family. If my DH pulled that number, I'd go ballistic. Not that he'd have much of a chance since I handle all the money!!

Yes, the statutory paternity leave is pants. Luckily DH gets 2wks full pay, so all being well he'll be home for the first 8 weeks (coz of the way his shifts fall), which will be great. That's assuming baby turns up on time.

Ok, SOH will rush to work after 20wk scan and report findings as ordered!!

hi all!! I had a very, very tasty dream about Daniel Craig last night too!!!

Kel, don't panic. Poor you. I really don't think it will be as bad this time as last time. Stay positive. What did the midwife say?

Kel, have you thought about trying some hypno birth methods to help with your anxieties about labour? I've read some good stuff about it and a friend said it really helped with her fears (complicated pain issues). Hope your mw can help you work out the best plan. xx

(I'm a first time mum and am petrified about labour anyway, so your post didn't scare me any more than I already am )

Aherm!

I think you'll find that Daniel Craig was actually promised only to me last night. Oh and that sandy, warm beach, the muscles...

Never had rude dreams before, certainly never dreamt about a man that isn't DH (and when I woke up he was peering at me interestedly- goodness knows what I was doing in my sleep, too to explain). Best pregnancy symptom so far...

Kel, you can't scare me about labour either. I vascillate between petrified and complete denial on a minute to minute basis.

I'm checking out hypnobirthing as I've read some great things about it. Maybe worth a look as tardy ol' JL says.

The Marie Mongan Hypnobirthing book comes with a cd, though I've heard that it's better if you can afford to do a few classes with a hypnotherapist. I have a friend who recommends the book and got through a a horribly long labour with it.

I have it at home though haven't actaully gotten around to reading ANY of the birth books I bought. Doh.

Shnow, don't want to burst your bubble or anything, but it was very clear that last night, Daniel Craig only wanted to be with yours truly...that meaningful look in his eye, the way he gripped me in his arms before... um, where am I again...??

Get this, I've actually got a hypnobirthing book on my shelf. Untouched. Why, you ask? Well, I ordered it when 36 weeks pg last time in a kind of last-minute panic of reinforcing all previous efforts to approach this birth experience thing in a postive, angels-singing, plinkity music kind of way. My LO was born at 37 weeks. It must've arrived as I was in the throes of agony, wondering how in the heck any woman manages sans drugs...

Guess I should crack that book open.

M/W said a lot of vague things but most importantly agreed to work with me. I'm most afraid of having a dead/nearly dead baby again so that's the main issue we have to confront. The possibility is there and I've just got to prepare for it

Hi all

TPT is just under 10 sheets but I can't remember what it was last week!

Had my hair cut and coloured this morning (full head and hi lights). Cost a fortune and was in salon for 3 hours but feels really nice.

Reading about some of your DPs/DHs makes mine seem a star (which he is really). He is a little too close to his family for my liking and is always running off keen to do things for them but that is his only vice really. His latest idea was to fetch his neice and her boyfriend from Manchester (5 hour round trip) on boxing day because they couldn't get a train. I pointed out that would mean leaving me on my own (DDs at their Dads) and he said I could go with him if I wanted! I politely told him no thanks and funnily enough he isn't going now. They are coming on the train the next day.

He said last night he will try and work something out money wise while I am on mat leave - we will be about £200 a month short on my wages and I hadn't really thought about it. At least I know he is thinking about it.

I'm renaming this thread 'The Daniel Craig Appreciation Society HQ' and boy did I appreciate his...er...attention to detail.

Oh sod it, after nausea, fatigue and fainting this is bloody brilliant.

Kel, my close friend had a horrific first labour, very complicated, extremely poorly baby but subsequently had two very empowering labours (plinkety plink plonk). Lots of positive visualisation (not the kind we're doing right now I presume.. ooh those muscles) and hypnotherapy- really helped her. I hope you can have the birth you want.

tee hee hee

Oh that man is a fine one, isn't he though? I really felt so loved-up when I woke up this morning, it was pretty fabulous. Embarrassingly enough, I think I know what brought all this on. Did anyone else see LK Today, with the underwear modelling? Yes well the bloke at the end - let's just say I'm surprised they allow that sort of revealing clothing in the morning hours!! Blimey! I felt like a little girl!!

Ok, so birthing. Thank you guys so very much for being so lovely and supportive. It's wonderful to hear positive stories.

I don't think I have the inner strength to face a natural birth again but I will give the fear-management techniques a good go. To think, I was so bloody confident and happy when labour struck the first time round. And it all ended in almost complete disaster... It just makes me want to squeeze my little boy so hard, every second, love him to pieces, for fear he could almost leave me again forever oh dear....

I actually don't think Daniel Craig is that good looking, but I think that's part of the appeal. He's not a pretty boy. Definitley wouldn't mind if Mr TDOC wanted to beef up a bit a le Mr Craig, but can hardly say anything whilst I'm on the sofa eating sweets. I really liked the film. I LOVE Bond movies. Very much looking forward to the next one.