Our super healthy fanjos just love getting their five a day but we draw the line at frozen poopsicles. We're the 25th JS Grads!

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 25th grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The thread we have graduated from is here in its 42nd outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread in postnatal clubs here for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

The stats sheet will be linked to by our stats hero La (can't do on iPad sorry!)

So, roll call below please, viroids!

Someone (chat?) mentioned asda baby event earlier - had a mailing about it today. Starts online on Saturday and in store Monday. Tommee tippee video/movement monitor is £90 reduced from £180 and a sangenic nappy bin is 9.97 down from £25. I don't know either product well (would actually advise against nappy bin!) but I remember some of the viroids might be interested. No sterilisers in the booklet but worth checking online when it starts?

Feel better soon mountain x

I got he email too but not looked. Why no to nappy bin pis?

Can you go to bed early mountain? Sometimes a good sleep makes all the difference. If you can sleep.

Sorry to hear it was inconclusive daisy, hopefully the bloods can show you progress but they will then call you back in a week or two as well. More waiting!

Good luck tomorrow 5hell. Positive vibes!

where's this photo tee??

Saw a friend from work with her 8wk old today. So cute! And sleeps really well...! I've ordered one of them.

Are you drinking enough Mountain?

Sorry you're feeling shite mountain, fingers crossed you're feeling better soon. Wil may have a point about fluids, I drink like a sparrow and get headaches if Ive not drank enough (which is pretty much never!)

Thanks for the sympathy viroids, I have taken myself off to bed and drinking as much as possible. Before being pregnant in hardly ever got headaches and if I did a couple of paracetamol and bed usually did the trick but these seem to go on for days at a time and although I'm trying not to take paracetamol, when I do give in it actually doesn't make any difference. Sorry to be all mememe

Not being able to see anything on scan is scary daisy but not necessarily a bad thing (on my first scan after first mc they could see a load of blood/clots) I'm keeping my gx firmly for your bloods Wednesday.

Gx also tightly crossed for you tomorrow 5hell

Where is indigo?

Is she maybe on holiday?

Headaches are horrible, so you have my sympathy, mountain!

mountain - you have my sympathy and empathy too! Mine don't sound as severe as yours in that paracetamol do help, but i keep waking up with them in the morning when i get up, which is frustrating. I keep thinking "but I've been asleep! What more can i do?!?"

good luck to everyone with early scans and bloods over the next few days and gx.

got my 20 week scan tomorrow, and praying that dildocam isn't mentioned - not fancying that one little bit :(

Good luck for tomorrow Deeply, are you going to find out what you're having?
I'm lucky in that ive never had to have a dildo cam. In all honesty nurses or people that I'm not comfortable with find it difficult to get anywhere near my foofah! I had to have gas and air at my examinations/ sweeps. Knocked me sick, to be fair to me I had a not very nice experience in childhood which still haunts me subconsciously involving a grown man who should never have been there. Thankfully he's in prison now.
My OH knows what ive been through and he can't cope watching me having stuff like that done either as he gets really annoyed, especially when the nurses/ doctors don't know about my past so therefore just think I'm being "ridiculous" because I can't relax! Dicks!!
One of the reasons why I'm opting for an elective c-section this time round.

Thanks for all your well wishes, you viroids are awesome
Funeral went as ok as these things can. It was a beautiful service. Dad and his family were as taxing as was expected, but I decided to make an early exit and skip the wake.
At home now tucked up in bed with some terry's chocolate orange, yum.

Will be thinking of you tomorrow 5hell.

Sorry that scan couldn't be more definite daisy, but hope you get more of an idea on Wednesday.

Good luck for scan tomorrow deeply!

Sorry you're feeling crappy mountain, hope the headache shifts soon.

Ok, time for sleep now, I'm shattered. Night night

Aw mountain I had horrible headaches for the first 4 months or so. Really got me down. They did stop eventually so fx yours do too.

Dulcet I had one with DS and it stank. I use a small lidded bin now which gets emptied every day (and does not smell like a bin full of rotten rats). It's this one. Not sure how much use the set is if you don't have IKEA furniture but I've found all the little bits get used all the time when I thought they wouldn't get used at all.

Night mini!

Pis that set is ace. Although I have nowhere to put it.

Glad it was a nice service Mini, well done for coping.

Pixie that's awful and must be really traumatic for you .

Hope you get answers soon Daisy

Morning!

Fleur your dhs timetable made me smile. Bless his naive little heart he's going to get a shock when the baby arrives minus copy of timetable

We painted rest of nursery last night and Mr La is going to build the cot today. I am so excited! I've waited 34 years to build my baby's nursery and it's actually happening!

Hope you get reassurance today 5hell - so many of us had bleeding at the start, gx that it's just breakthrough.

I found your info about bf, bottle feeding, pumps and monitors really helpful thank you! I am going to get an angelcare monitor but the cheaper one than I originally planned, no video. I would like to express so will get pump at later date so dh can feed and we have option of either (if baby agrees!)

I am getting fed up with people saying how large I am :(. I'm 27 weeks today but I'm constantly getting told I look much bigger. It's freaking me out and I'm starting to get worried about it. Got midwife week after next so can ask then.

Got a splint for my wrist now which should help when using computer and I've got Physio referral next week for hip. Feel a bit like I'm starting to fall apart! :P

Also was bit upset at weekend. I'm noticing people have stopped inviting me to stuff. There was a beach walk a few weeks ago, then BBQ on Sunday. Photos went up on Facebook and it's the group i hang out with here from work. I've never not been invited before. I think it's because I'm pregnant. I'm the only one pg or with a baby in that group.

Makes me feel more homesick, I've got tonnes of friends with kids in Scotland and everyone brings them along to things.

Fatty - men are big children. That sounds like a nice present!

Daisy - that's frustrating but hopefully as they say you're probably just too early and it can't be seen yet. Those first few weeks are so unnerving, gx to you. It's great they are getting you back in to check bloods again. I had to fight tooth and nail for that to happen.

I saw that asda event email too. Tesco had one as well. Dh wanted a nappy bin and I said it is a waste of money. Surely we can just put them in normal bin?

Deeply good luck for scan! Can't believe you're 20 weeks already!

Mountain it might be dehydration like others said - how are you feeling today?

Glad funeral went as well as can be expected mini

Pixie I'm so sorry to hear you went through that. No wonder you get tense. I've had loads of dildo cams as result of my suspected ectopic/resulting mc. I just get up and stick feet together automatically now. Very surprising for sonographer the first time I had external!

Sorry for massive post. Catching up

Feeling a bit better this morning so just hoping it won't come back again. Again, thanks for all the love viroids :)

Good luck today 5hell

Eeeeeeek my sister might be in labour!

How exciting Mountain!!

Are you actually measuring big La or is it just the comments of cheeky fuckers which are worrying you? It's so bloomin' rude. You only have three months of it left so try to just brush it off. It's only because they're used to you being so tiny normally. I'm sure if you were measuring too big the midwife would have said something by now?

My back is crippled. Going to have to find 40 quid from somewhere to go to the physio. It's keeping me awake.

Ooh mountain exciting times!

Glad you held it together for the funeral mini must have been a really sad day.

5hell lots of luck for today. You too deeply will you post pics?

Daisy sorry to hear you're still in limbo.

la bet you look great! My colleagues were fascinated by the size of my bump yesterday and reminded me that they had never seen such a big bump when I had DD too. Its just one of them things.
wil can you self refer to hospital for physio?

La people are just rude, your bump is probably completely normal. I lost count of the number of comments at work about how huge my bump was and was it twins etc etc (bump is measuring average and there's only one in there still...)

In contrast, Last week someone commented how small and neat I was and how it would all come off straight away as I was only carrying baby weight. I didn't know her from Adam but I could have hugged her! Now that's how to make a heavily pregnant woman feel better!

La Id end up making a cutting dig if someone kept telling me I was looking big. Id be like "yeah I'm growing a human, what's your excuse?!"
As for leaving you out that is shite, unfortunately it happens, I rarely see my best friends, they're always out getting drunk. I know it's been mentioned earlier but are there any mum groups you can go to? I don't know what I'd do without the women Ive met over the past few months. I see them a lot more than I see anyone, plus when baby comes it's nice to know other people are having the same issues and talk about how they dealt with it.

Back to dildo cams Ive never seen what one looks like but if it's anything like a smear then I couldn't handle it. I need to have a smear after this baby and I need to try and mentally prepare myself, I ended up getting a home kit from the NHS/ hospital university which I did myself and was fine doing it. It was a hell of a lot thinner than the speclum they use and because I was in control of it it wasn't too much of a big deal.

La I would say to your friends you're still up for doing stuff. They probably just (wrongly) assume you don't want to. I find I miss stuff for about a year after the baby arrives and then I'm back in the loop again. Most of my friends have children of different ages - would be easier if everyone coordinated the baby stage.

Can you self refer when not pg Gaggia? Guess I could try although am sure I'd have to wait a while. Will look into it.

Thankfully never had dildo cam either. I find smears much easier since childbirth.

Some people have no concept of what a pregnancy looks like - La I'm sure you look perfectly normal. Your MW will measure you regularly anyway, but I always find a direct contradiction works well: 'oh really, everyone else thinks I'm small'... At least makes them reconsider if they have the faintest idea what they are talking about. Can't believe they aren't inviting you to stuff, that's just thoughtless. Is it misplaced kindness, thinking you're too tired/don't want to travel/are jealous of all the beers? It may be worth a gentle reminder to one of the more receptive souls that you're not some kind of social pariah, you're just growing a baby.

Dildocams are thinner than a speculum, I've not found them uncomfortable.

Auntie Mountain glad your headache is better, exciting times for yous sister!

Sorry to hear you're still in limbo Daisy, this early pregnancy lark is torture at times.

Good luck with scans Deeply and 5hell

Thanks everyone you've cheered me up a bit. Was in work kitchen this morning and someone I've not seen for two weeks came in, who's a good friend and knows how I'm feeling as she felt same when she was pregnant. She saw me and went 'wooooaaaaah!' Then saw my face and gave be a hug and apologised. She said it's coz she'd not seen me for weeks and that it's obvious it's all bump. I was feeling bit fragile as I tried on 3 maternity dresses my mum gave me this morning and rejected them because they made me feel big. I'm wearing a lovely summery mothercare dress - red and navy stripes at top and navy from bump down. I like it and it makes me feel smaller.

I've no idea if my bump is normal or not. I had my last mw appointment early at 23 weeks so she didn't measure it. Next one isn't until 29 weeks so 2 weeks from now.

Pixie I find dildocam much easier than smear. It's smooth and they just put it up you and look around, rather than scraping the sides like smear. Only bit I found uncomfortable was when I had my suspected ectopic - they had to push it right up into my ovaries and press down on my tummy. It was sore :(. But that was a one off - the other times were fine.

Glad you feel better mountain :)
Very exciting that you could be an auntie today! Is it her first?

Def check about self referral wil - ice found in Scotland my Physio nhs referrals were pretty quick each time otherwise.

I don't know what to do about the friend thing - I feel it would be cheeky to ask why I wasn't invited. I've put out an email asking if anyone wants to do pub on Friday and everyone is busy apparently!

wil you can self refer here, dont know if its different in Scotland, it could just be my hospital though but you just fill out a form and hand it in.

I know what you mean la about the social exclusion, I've had a bit of it too, largely from my 'city' friends, and when I've said something about being NFI'd they've all hurriedly made excuses or offered lunches. (Because the concept of evening events with a pregnant woman are just too absurd) or said they'll 'have to come and visit when the baby arrives' Erm... . It is shit! However, they do say you find out who your friends are when you have kids, so I'm assuming this is what it means! I'm fortunate to have one close child free friend (but she lives over an hour away) and then one friend with two kids who lives about 20 minutes away, but my immediate social circle has definately shrunk. Plus after that whole house party experience the other week I do wonder if it makes people feel uncomfortable. (And this is why they say such fucking stupid, stupid things about you, your size, dispensing 'advice') - I was convinced I was doubly huge too but I am measuring bang on as of Friday; I think we are probably similarly built, I'm just all bump and tits, and I think it is quite sticky out. Just ignore them lovely, you look fabulous, and like the other girls have said, you're growing a fucking human, what have they done?!