Our super healthy fanjos just love getting their five a day but we draw the line at frozen poopsicles. We're the 25th JS Grads!

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 25th grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The thread we have graduated from is here in its 42nd outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread in postnatal clubs here for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

The stats sheet will be linked to by our stats hero La (can't do on iPad sorry!)

So, roll call below please, viroids!

I've to phone them Monday morning!

It seems to have calmed down a bit and very pinky/brown on wiping only so I'm trying to remain hopeful

Oh surely withno kisses he'll know he's in the dog house?

Hi grads, thought I'd show my face here finally (JS bfp on Good Fri), not fully sank in yet and have been spotting/bleeding since wed so bit worried and feel ur pain daisy i have v little bleeding on sanitary pad but quite a bit on wiping (TMI!!!) Have epu appintment tuesday am

On that cheery note, looking fwd to (hopefully) pinching lots of good tips and goss off u viroids :)

Definitely sounds like breakthrough bleed daisy call asap Monday morning and make them give you the earliest appointment! If you can't see anything on scan -as I said before not unusual especially at less than 6 weeks, make sure they do 48 hcg levels, it will put your mind at ease!

chat must be that I also love the name Ben, but it's currently taken by my brother in law!

tee I would be annoyed too, boys just don't understand the concept of nice surprises they think all these nice things we do for them are just our usual behaviour and not at all because we expect something in return!

Um stats...
Name: 5hell
Age:34
DCs: incubating seed of unclear size (maybe 5+3 or 9+3!?)

Thanks everyone feel a bit more reassured now I'll keep u posted

Welcome 5shell fingers crossed everything goes ok for u sending good vibes and hugs x x

The first fee weeks will be full of these scares daisy and 5hell. Glad you are both booked in with EPU though, can hopefully give the reassurance you need. Asking for 48hr bloods is a good idea, especially if the scans are too early to tell you much.

Sounds like a reasonable reaction tee, do you think he's planning a surprise? If he would normally take the day off then why not this year?

DH is in favour of Ben as well la, not many he hasn't vetoed! Did you have a gossip-y, baby filled lunch?

Baby school was all about healthy eating, then we went for a punch lunch. Oh dear. I started talking to a girl behind me who seemed really nice but not quite sure how to make that jump to being pregnant friends. It's like dating! I can't ask for her number and now I might not see her again!

He has also decided to build the cot this afternoon... I'm not allowed to help.

Hi viroids

5hell and daisy - it's the easiest thing to say don't panic but so hard to do! They both sound like breakthrough bleeding. I was told not to worry unless lots of red blood and/or cramps. Brown or pinky is good sign. When I mc there was gush of red blood with clots and painful cramps.

Gx for the two of you, I'm glad the doctors are being helpful and referring you to epu, hopefully you can be reassured at your appointment.

Tee - bless you, it's fine to be emotional! I had a cry in BHS this morning choosing pyjamas

Oooh cot building dulcet, that's very organised!!

I had a lovely time with my friends. One is 2 weeks behind me and I've not seen her since we got pg. Hers was 3rd ivf cycle and I'm delighted for her. We had 2 babies at the lunch, 4 months and 1 month old so I had lots of cuddles.

Sorry meant to say tee I'd be just as annoyed about the birthday thing! Our anniversary is in 3 weeks and mr la has made no effort so far to plan anything, despite me suggesting options.

Mountain I feel the same as so got pg 5/6 weeks after mc. I've been pg now almost since August and I feel like I should be much further on than I am.

Daisy and 5hell they both sound like implantation to me. Gx for you both. It's scary though, I had a bit of bleeding at 8 weeks for no reason

Dulcet I'm impressed with cot building

Tee I'd be upset too. Have you told him you're upset?

La baby lunch sounds lovely, hope DH steps up for your anniversary

It's my birthday today and I've had a lovely day out with mum at the Good Food show. I got books signed by Mary Berry and saw a show with her and Paul Hollywood.

DH is taking me out for steak tonight. I'm a bit disappointed with lack of presents but he's arranged for flowers to be delivered every 4 weeks starting after we get back from holiday in May. It's a lovely idea and I sound like a diva now but we always do a weekend away for birthdays and he's not mentioned anything.

Ooh and I won £100 on the national and no horses died

Awwww happy birthday purple!!! It's lils birthday too today have a lovely time at dinner and the flowers sound so sweet. My dh bought me tulips this morning, to say thank you for me cleaning the house. He never buys me flowers so I was very surprised.

Good food show sounds fantastic, I love food...mmmm...

I saw no horses died today which is fab news! They made improvements to the fences a year or two ago and it seems to have made a big difference. I am very relieved there were no deaths.

Happy Birthday Purple and Lil!

I got pg on the second cycle after mc so also felt as if I was pregnant forever.

Anyone want to borrow a toddler to practise their mothering skills on? I have never met a more stubborn wee thing except myself and Mr Wil.

Happy birthday purple

Just had a bbq, it was delicious! Well other than the fact I had to cook my steak till it was dead twice, it just doesn't seem right if it's not medium rare

Cot most the way there but he thinks he's missing some bits, which is reassuring... I do have to keep telling him he baby won't sleep in it for a while but won't stop him if he feels productive!

Happy birthday purple! The flowers is a great idea, shame you have to wait but very thoughtful.

And you lil, happy birthday! What you been up to?? Will pop over to JSers to see if I can find out.

Lunch sounded good then la, did you learn any gems about baby care??

Are you babysitting this stubborn thing wil? Just give back!!

Is miniwil the stubborn toddler? Bribery?

I learned a few things but I'm struggling to remember what they were...this bodes well! Um...

It'll come back to me!

We took a photo of me and my friend back to back with our bumps - it's hilarious! My bump is very sticky outy compared to hers.

Mostly I learned to say 'thank you' and smile sweetly to anyone offering advice. They said it gets worse when baby arrives. Oh and that babies like bouncers, so I'm going to see if I can borrow one.

I'd love to give her back Dulcet but unfortunately she's mine and she's definitely not going back where she came out of at this stage.

I think I might just have to admit defeat and let her wreck the house, steal all the sweets, poo in her pants, take over the ipad/tv/phone and run off to the park by herself when she feels like it. If I just sit in the corner and drink gin I probably won't care so much.

Someone told me to 'enjoy it, it doesn't last long', when I was out with the baby today. Well I'd love to enjoy it but can't quite find the time inbetween being screamed at. Of course I smiled sweetly and said thank you.

I'm not very good at smiling sweetly and saying thank you when people talk utter shit!

My sisters kids have always been good with bedtimes so I asked her secret. She swaddled them til they could wriggle out then did controlled crying and sobbed outside their bedroom doors but it fixed them quite quickly. Worth a shot I guess but I'm sure it won't work for all kids and probably not mine not sure I'm strong enough for CC though

Meal was amazing, I had a very small glass of Merlot which was lovely.

Hope miniWil snaps out of it soon Wil

Happy birthday Lil if you're lurking

Got my dream genie pillow, looking forward to bedtime

Oh sorry wil, for some reason read that as not one of yours! Defo don't try and post her back, sounds horrific. You can try the tactic of letting her get on with it and see how far she gets. It's risky though!

Did they offer you any advice that you had to smile sweetly at la? They probably know better if babies born quite recently. Nice you have a friend so close to your date though.

Cot built but missing the bits that attach the base to the rest of it. Hmmm... Kind of essential!

:) wil that made me laugh. Definitely drink the gin!

These friends are all realistic and like the unmumsy mum so no unwanted advice. We talked about blaming smelly farts on the babies, colour of poo in bf babies compared to ff and wanting to scream because the baby won't stop crying. One of them has a 5 year old and 5 month old twins. She is despairing of ever sleeping again! It was a fun lunch, the couple at the next table looked disgusted at us!

Purple I love my dream genii it's like a hug. I don't think I get the concept of CC, it seems v unnatural to me to let your baby scream itself to sleep. I know lots of people who do it and each to their own but I don't think it's for me. I'll hold my hands up though and say I've never had a baby before and have no experience of any other method or know anything really about it!

Ha! Dulcet are you playing baby cotbed roulette?

Is CC this? www.jofrost.com/controlled-timed-crying-technique-ctct/

Because this seems to actually make sense to me, whereas I'd always thought CC was letting baby cry until it falls asleep and having no contact at all

No that's called 'cry it out' 101 wanky phrases. There is a method to controlled crying which I imagine is the thing you posted (too lazy to look). I never needed to do it with MiniWil but may very well with this one at some stage. Thing is, if babies get overtired, they cry. And sometimes the worst thing you can do is pick them up and overstimulate them. MicroWil gets herself so upset sometimes and will just scream and scream no matter what I do. So sometimes I put her down with a bit of white noise and then she'll be asleep within two minutes. Whereas if I hold her, she just carries on screaming. I'm not one for 'attachment parenting' or a Gina Ford style routine. I just think you do what feels right in each situation.

waves

Happy birthday purple and lil if you're lurking! (I know I should go say that on the JS thread, but I've only been lurking for a couple of threads and now wonder if people will be a bit 'who the hell is that?!)

Ahhh right! I need to read up what it actually is then. Not very familiar with the terminology.

You also need to be reasonably confident with CC that the baby doesn't actually need anything - you wouldn't (for example) let a hungry baby cry and cry regardless of how often you return to reassure them. You get to know your own baby though and sometimes you can tell what they want. I did a form of CC with DS but not until he was in his own room and I could be sure that what he actually wanted was to sleep. I couldn't do it with MiniPis at this point as she only cries when she needs something - sometimes what she needs is a cuddle or she fancies a shift in position so she can look around but thankfully that's not what she wants on the hour all night!

Hello night feed/pg insomnia crew!

Nose completely blocked saline spray making no difference. Dh only just came home from work. Bar closes 1:30 and it takes til 2 to finish cleaning so that means he's been sitting drinking for hours. Apparently 'there were no taxis' but I've told him I'm far too wise for that trick, particularly as he's slurring. Means he will now stay in bed til midday on the only day of the week we get to spend time together. Grr. I'm too angry now to go back to sleep. This boys getting a big wake up call when baby arrives, he'll not be able to do this anymore, he'll be too frigging tired!

How you getting on pis?