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Well crap in a Jiffy bag - It's the 22nd JS Grads thread!

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Pisghetti · 15/02/2015 17:15

Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 22nd grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The thread we have graduated from is here in its 39th outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread in postnatal clubs here for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

So, roll call below please, viroids!

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KatoPotato · 25/02/2015 15:00

Hooya La! At this stage there is still so much room in there for mini la it could be doing burley-whulks in there and you wouldn't feel it!

LaLaLaaaa · 25/02/2015 15:17

Burley whulks!! Amazing

It's booting me again

Fleurchamp · 25/02/2015 16:17

I still haven't had any movement la

Keeping well away from the July Fred Sad

Fleurchamp · 25/02/2015 16:19

Have no idea what Burley Whalks are guesses it must be a northern/ Scottish thing

minimooo · 25/02/2015 17:28

Burley whalks! Grin

Viroids, I need some guidance... I'm looking for a really informative breastfeeding book. I realised the other day that I know nothing whatsoever about how to breastfeed and now I've panicked myself that I'm not going to know what to do when I have an actual real live baby to feed. I need a book that tells me everything I need to know. I've found a book on amazon called "The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding" which is apparently by La Leche League. Does anyone know if it's any good? Are there any other breastfeeding books anyone can recommend?

laurenamium · 25/02/2015 17:43

Oh mini ill lurk for a breast feeding book too! Smile

LaLaLaaaa · 25/02/2015 17:45

Fleur don't worry I didn't get any til last week! Still v early. Midwife said 24 weeks is when to start keeping track.

Never heard of burley whurks before I just think it's great!

willywallace · 25/02/2015 17:52

I've heard of burly whirlies...

Sorry have never had a book. I'm actually of the view that it's so much more helpful to have one good person to show you what to do. Mine came in the form of a midwive's assistant. She was so much more helpful than all the midwives. I imagine anything by La Leche League would cover everything you could ever need to know though.

Indigoblue2 · 25/02/2015 18:44

chat I didn't think I was far enough along for braxtons? But that's maybe what it is. tee mine start not when I need to pee but when I actually am, it's quite odd! Sometimes if I've been sleeping and then roll over, that starts it off too but only lasts a few minutes. Doesn't seem like on-off contractions though, it's like a constant hard feeling. Does that sound like what you feel?

pis ah I get you now re the Isofix stuff. The family fix isn't rear facing. I will need to look at your one, sounds good.

Midwife app tomorrow, wonder what she'll do?!

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Pisghetti · 25/02/2015 18:49

I second Wil's advice - I think watching (and being shown) is definitely the best way to learn when it comes to breastfeeding. Ask your midwife about breastfeeding consultants in your area and see if you can find details of any support groups. I'm signed up to my local one via FB and all manner of questions asked at all times of the day and night get plenty of really helpful responses. The local MLU has a breastfeeding consultant contracted to them who goes out giving 1-2-1 support in new mum's homes and they have a number of volunteers who run local groups to provide support. A midwife on a busy postnatal ward is unlikely to have the time to help even if she wants to so its worth finding out about what other help is available and if there are any groups near you, see if you can go along while pregnant to see how it is done and to ask any questions you might have.

Waiting for my Daisy class to begin. It's the penultimate one Confused might see if can redo them on a week by week basis.... I wasn't able to put the stickers up as DP has to do some more drilling to secure the changing unit and I don't want nasty black mortar dust ruining my work! So that's on tomorrow's to-do list. I spent the day sorting clothes into size order and repacking my hospital bag as it was getting over full. I was surprised at how many clothes we have already! Teeny tiny dresses hanging up on the wardrobe are the cutest thing. Can't imagine having something small enough to fit in them. But as DP said it needs to be small if it's coming out of my hooha....

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KatoPotato · 25/02/2015 18:53

I certainly found I was in information overload wrt breastfeeding with DS1. I had books, DVDs and a midwife who told me I had to time every feed with a stopwatch and write it down. The whole thing was a miserable first month that I hated.

Since then I've seen 2nd time mums just get up and on with it, no timings etc and I'm hoping a more casual and open minded approach and attitude this time round will help me, but I won't be so terrified to use ff too and try mixed feeding etc. but if I even start to hate it as much as last time I'll be stopping immediately.

laurenamium · 25/02/2015 18:55

Oh going along to groups before baby comes is a good idea pis I hadn't thought of that!

Me and DP still aren't talking and I'm feeling incredibly sorry for myself. I just cried because it hurt too much to put my trousers on. Hmm

minimooo · 25/02/2015 19:16

Thanks for the advice viroids. Groups definitely sound like a good idea. I'll ask my midwife when I next see her.

Ooph lauren, that sounds painful. Sorry things haven't improved with dp. Hope it all works itself out soon.

laurenamium · 25/02/2015 19:18

Can I use a hot water bottle under my bump or is it dangerous for the baby?

Indigoblue2 · 25/02/2015 19:22

Oh I really hope I enjoy the whole bf thing. I'm so keen to do it and desperate to give it all I've got. It's hard to know how you're going to cope until you are doing it. My friend is managing and her baby is about 6 weeks old now. She's not got any problems with supply or sore nipples etc, but says the worst part is just how often bf babies need fed. We've got other friends who are doing ff and say it makes them sleep for much longer and need fewer feeds which is way handier. The midwife has said to her that this is because breast milk is more easy to digest and so travels through them quicker? I'm hoping that if really regular feeds are the worst part of it for me, I should be fine!

KatoPotato · 25/02/2015 19:39

That's an excellent attitude indigo it was the relentlessness that got to me, not pain or supply etc, I think if you know in advance that yes it is non stop and down to you and just get on with it then you'll be grand!

My first night home I literally bf all night. The midwife came in the morning and I told her horrified, expecting her to re-admit us both. She just laughed and said 'yes that's breastfeeding!'

I cried.

But now I know just how quick the newborn stage goes by. That is all anyone tells you, and when you're living through it you really do want to strangle them, but trust me, they are 5yo in the blink of an eye!

ZylaB · 25/02/2015 19:44

My little one is currently bfing about every 2 or 2 and a half hours, but she's only 2 weeks old and took a while to get feeding, so hopefully it'll be a bit longer now she knows what she's doing! She has started cluster feeding in evenings too, but I have to wake her for feeds if she doesn't wake me due to her weight loss.

Our hospitals have a bf cafe you can go to before or after birth with specialists, also check your local sure start to see if they have one, again you can ge before to talk to other mums and some experts :)

Indigoblue2 · 25/02/2015 20:57

zyla are they trying to encourage you to ff aswell? Another friend of mine had a slightly early baby who was 5lbs something, and they told her to bf and ff. I wasn't really sure why this would be unless her milk supply wasn't good? Although I don't think that was the issue. Is ff higher in calories?

Indigoblue2 · 25/02/2015 21:05

kato that's what I'm going to tell myself! Mantra: "I'm off work specifically to care for this baby and nothing else".. Repeat Smile yikes, wait until I'm on here crying and wishing I could have an hours sleep

Purpleball · 25/02/2015 21:08

Lauren I read somewhere that you shouldn't do anything that might heat the baby up and hot water bottles aren't allowed on you abdomen

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Pisghetti · 25/02/2015 21:33

Lauren when my SPD was particularly bad I would grip a hot water bottle between my thighs so the top would sit on the sore bit without being on my bump. I know it is utterly miserable Confused are you sitting down to put trousers and pants on? I keep forgetting but as soon as I lift one leg it comes flooding back!

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splodge77 · 25/02/2015 21:34

hi viroids. I never read a book on breastfeeding but when DS was born we had someone in postnatal ward every day who would come and give you help which was v reassuring. It does take a while to get the knack and it bloody hurts at first but its worth persevering... but also not beating yourself up if it doesn't work out in the end.

Anyone else watch that BBC programme about childbirth the other night? Thought it was pretty patronizing in its tone towards the women involved but it has put me all in a quandary about whether to ELCS or natural birth again!! I have consultant appointment next week and have been wavering towards a section but seeing one on telly made me super squeamish and the water birth looked so lovely.... Argh! Why can't I make a decision!?!?

ZylaB · 25/02/2015 21:50

indigo no, we had to top her up as she was slow to feed but tried to do it with expressed breast milk, which was what they encouraged. We used a bit of formula to top up while my supply was low becaus of emcs, but they were good at encouraging me to express etc, and now don't need to top up at all, just bfing :)

laurenamium · 25/02/2015 21:54

Ah thanks for the tip pis! Yes I forgot today which is why I ended up crying, sat on the sofa in floods with trousers round my ankles Hmm

I think I'm particularly hormonal which isn't helping!

LaLaLaaaa · 25/02/2015 21:55

Lauren that sounds pretty miserable :(. Unfortunately I don't think you can use hot water bottle for long on bump. What about a bath would that help? Give me your dps number I'll soon sort him out, bloody men!!

I wasn't going to read any books on bf, I'm going to a bf nct workshop then a nhs one (the one where I have to take a muffin!!). I'll have my mum with me after the birth so if there isn't anyone to help on the ward hopefully she can help. But I know my hospital is meant to be quite good

I had an ouch moment today. Our exercise teacher told us the other week about being careful sitting up as in pregnancy out abdominal muscles separate and you can easily get injured. I was lying down earlier and just lifted my head slightly. There was a 'pop' and I saw what looked like a lump pop out just above my bump. I've just been to my class and was really sore following it so I mentioned to teacher. She said it would've been my abdominal muscle popping put Hmm

So be careful viroids! Don't sit up too quickly!

I was going to order the baby whisperer though as my friend said it was the lesser evil of parenting books! Anyone read it?