Due June 2007... the new thread!

[NattyandThomasandBump]

got sick of how long it took my poor computer to load that mammouth page so i have started a new one!

oh and can i stay?

Hi all

Sorry all the posts seem a bit negative at the moment. Everyone seems to be feeling just as freaked out/nauseous/tired as me. I hope all of your worries about MCs turn out to be unfounded. Roll on the second trimster for all of us and maybe our posts will start cheering up (by the way, that isn't meant to be a criticism, so sorry if that's how it sounds, just seems like we are all pretty fed up at the moment - me included!)
I am sooooo tired. Not sleeping through the night at all and last night was the worst. Fortunately I booked a day off today, but my best friend is coming to stay this weekend and I am fed up with feeling like crap! Urrrggghhhh please tell me it gets better?!

Morning Bumper,

Fortunately it does get better. I like you haven't been sleeping properly. Over past 2-3 days had bad morning sickness, waking up all hot and sicky feeling, not much better during the day either. Lucozade did give me some relief yesterday.

Daisybump - (((((Hugs))))) for you hun, hope everything is ok.

Hello to everyone else.....

Well i better go, dd2 is grabbing at me and dd1 is crying "no Lottie that's MY mummy!!" so i better go explain that mummy has two babies and you have to share her thing AGAIN.

Lucozade, that's what I am going to get. Is it wrong to go to waitrose in your PJs with bed hair?

As long as you put make up on you should be fine

Bumperlicious, LOL at your your last post, and I am sure it has cheered up some of us poor MS ridden MNer's. Also sooo fed up with the MS, mainly with having to do it in public places because it always happens in the time after leaving work to join the commuting rat race to get back and pick up DS from nursery- nightmare. Yesterday I left my H.O in the heart of a busy West London high street and promptly threw up in the ornamental herbacious raised beds of a swank L'Oreal office block, in front of passing pedestrians! If it had been a few minutes later I would have done it on the tube - I am really hoping I do not get overcome with sickness when I am on the tube, I wouldn't know what to do if that happened, hold it in my mouth (sorry TMI). I think I'd better bring some bags with me, just in case... Daisybump, and Trace , surely you can go and get a scan , just for re-assurance??
Also to everyone the timing is good for us , because hopefully by Christmas.... ( oohpps, just went off there for a sick break ,must be the thought of all that Xmas food) all the MS will be gone and we can enjoy ( albeit small portions ) of all those Christmas goodies! Keep your chins up and your stomachs down x

Sorry last post looked a bit disrespectful to DB and Trace- it wasn't meant to be just a side thought about your worries - are you going to get a scan? Our best wishes for 2 strong little heart beats go out to you....x ,

I'm a happy camper . Phoned for a scan appointment and got one this morning.....it's all fine...we've got a lovely big jumping bean...and they've changed my dates to 10 weeks bang on today putting my EDD forward to 15 June. Got lots of photos as well which was nice and the radiographer gave us lots of information on how DF (dear foetus) is developing and everything is just fine and dandy and normal. I can sleep well in my bed tonight.

Thanks for all you words of support yesterday...DH just thinks I'm hormoanal (i'll leave that spelling mistake in...it seems appropriate) and loopy. It's nice to know your not alone with your anxieties.

hope all is well with you ladies and more later

That's such good news DB, and I bet you'll feel so much better just for being reassured.

I'm so sick of everyone saying I'm hormonal - people think I'm crabby because of my hormones, I just want to say to them 'actually I'm crabby coz I feel constantly sick, haven't slept properly in a month, have absolutely no social life and no prospect of one and you are just p*ssing me off! It's not my hormones!'
I said to my mum the other day 'I don't feel hormonal, it's just that when people annoy me I want to take my shoe off and hit them round the head with it!' I just held the phone away while she guffawed for 5 minutes at that clear understatement. I think it's just I don't want people belittling how I feel and just putting it down to hormones. My mum always used to do that pre PG, if had any issue or problem she would say 'are you due on your period?' (Actually what she used to say is are you due on your 'women's week'?! Shes 46 not 84 and it's not a women's gossip magazine its a bloody period!).
Sorry to hear about your vomitting K1K2, I guess my only upside is that I haven't actually thrown up at all. L'oreal hey? Well, because your worth it ;)

Damn, Bumperlicious, you beat me to it with the "because you're worth it" gag.
Seriously though K1K2 I really feel for you and others who are actually being sick and have to cope with commuting, offices etc. I'm lucky that I work from home.
Daisybump that is GREAT news

Yay for you Daisybump!!!!

PMSL @ Bumpers pj's and bed hair post!

K1K2 - Poor you! That must have been embarrassing! Luckily i'm not sick very often, and haven't been so far in any of my pgs (touch wood) but when i am sick i cry for my mum! Could you imagine me throwing up on a bus or similar crying for my mummy? lol.

Good afternoon sputnik and annobal.

Hooray DB, so glad to hear your good news!!

When I was commuting with my pg last time round (2005-2006) I had strong urges to be sick every time I got on the train or tube. Got to the point where I literally always had a plastic bag in my purse so I could just hurl into it if need be. Sure it would gross out the other commuters but at least nobody would worry about their suits/bags/shoes/papers bearing the brunt of it!!

Tried Ipecac homeopathic remedy? I think it really helps!! (it's not the stuff which makes you vomit, it has the opposite effect).

Roll on xmas and minced pies...

thanks girls....I was feeling very sick driving home from work, had to shut off the fan as the traffic fumes coming in the car were making me gag. I've only thrown up twice though...both times in the shower. I would die of it happened in public. It's maybe the traffic fumes doing it for you K1K2...you could try one of those masks that the cycle couriers use , at least you'd be giving people a laugh.

found a website that deals in cut price clothing, most new some nearly new. It's at {http://www.bumpsmart.co.uk}

Damn...that wibbly wobbly web link thing never works for me....but you get the idea

Daisybump - so pleased to hear all OK .

On subject of m/s mine getting worse, now sick almost every evening, especially when try to clean my teeth before bed. Fortunately walk to/from work but just the thought of being in a moving vehicle makes me want to hurl -sympathise with those of you stuck in traffic jams and on public transport. Of course the downside of walking was apparent today when I was drenched from head to toe by a passing bus making a tsunami out of a puddle in the road. Well there you go,Bumperlicious, a moan that has nothing to do with being pg! Btw maybe you should consider online grocery shopping before you get arrested for crimes against fashion in your local store.

thanks for the advice lilkel but thankfully the itching seems to have eased up.

Well done daisybump!

I had a disturbing GP appt today. I mentioned heartburn, and said I had been taking ranitidine. She looked horrified and told me to stop immediately as it had not been proven safe in pg. I said I had looked it up on the Net, on a US health authority site, and it was a Class B drug amd safe. She told me 'not to believe everything on the Net'. I then freaked a bit, and asked if I had hurt the baby. There was a long silence and she said 'Just stop taking it now'. I drove home in a right pickle, dh and I then looked on the Net together, including Mumsnet, and saw that some doctors prescribe ranitidine in pg, and some don't. Lots of mumsnetters have taken it. I am now, however, sticking to swigging Gaviscon straight from the bottle....

My ms has varied, some days better than others, but I too have done the public chunder of shame, into a nappy sack on Fleet Street!

Morning all.

11 wks today, and think I have finally turned the corner with the ms, haven't been sick since Sun, so must be a good sign!

Fortunately still at home, so I haven't had to deal with throwing up in the toilets at work this time round - and why is it when u just go into be sick someone else always turns up at the same time?

Had booking appt with MW, who it turns out is moving down my street in a couple of wks, so could b very handy if we get caught short!

Have scan appt next week - anyone else worried about having theirs? I keep panicing - thinking there will b either nothing in there, or there will b something wrong with it. I'm sure I am probably just being paranoid. Will feel much better once i actually see something in there though!

Evening all! We're going out for dinner tonight which I am really looking forward to. I don't feel to bad today due to a full night's sleep, 3 hour hair appt and shopping followed by an afternoon nap while DH looked after DS1 and DS2 .

Great news about the MW kittycat. We've bitten the bullet this time and opted for an independent MW due to overworked and underpaid NHS staff.

Doggus - I found indigestion disappeared when I stopped eating wheat...

Great news on the scan DB. Mine is at the end of Nov and this will be the first time I haven't had an early scan (ie before 12 wk one) so am feeling v nervous about it.

Am now off to get dressed for big night out (I hope my dress still fits!).

BTW has anyone contemplated using a dhoula?

Er....remember my earlier threads claiming 'no sickness'?

Have just spent the evening bringing a raw carrot back up that I ate at about 5-ish.

WTF???!!!

I was starving, wanted something quick, easy and healthy - that wouldn't spoil my tea.

Seems to have subsided now. So I'm ravenous.

Weird!

Doggus - I have been plagued by heartburn,it has been unbearable. I have been taking ranitidine too - did the m/w give you an alternative? The pregnancy book I bought says most antacids are effective and safe to use. Guess a trip to Boots and a chat to the pharmacist is in order.

Kittykat - was just saying to DH today how sometimes think I have imagined the whole thing and when I go for scan there will be nothing there.Probably because so long between pg test and scan date you begin to doubt it.Then of course the puking serves up a reminder.My scan a week tomorrow. Think it will all become real then.

I am so excited for my scan, like many of you I'm at that point now where I just am not sure if I'm imagining it all and the belly growth is just due to eating far too much...(anything to keep ms at bay, you know ). Mine is on 1 Dec.

Dhoulas - I was seriously looking into getting one as we can't afford an independent midwife and I was sorely disappointed at the selection of midwives I saw whilst in labour . Dhoula.uk is a great website that will let you search for dhoulas in your area and gives you questions to ask. I'm now planning a c-section so my need for assistance in labour is now gone. At least, that's the theory. I'm now just very, very afraid that my section will be planned for 39 weeks and the little one will choose to arrive at 37 (like my first!).

So jealous of your big night out Annobal - it's great though when you get those little moments alone to just revel in the miracle of what's happening. Otherwise you spend the whole time feeling miserable and before you know it, a year's gone by...

Hi tallulah - the GP said that she thought only Gaviscon was safe. Don't worry about taking the ranitidine, though, I did do lots of research and lots of people have taken it. I will check with my local pharmacist. Annobal, I will try giving up wheat to see if it helps, thank you. I get it as soon as I lie down at night, and sometimes I wake up in the night with burning sick in my mouth (TMI sorry). It's horrible.

Thank you for the recommendation on the doula web site - I have just spent the last hour trying to find the web site then spelt it properly...

Annobal...I had thought about a Doula for one of my previous pgs (mc), but hadn't considered it this time...suppose that's because I'm not at home watching mum+1 on Discovery!! I had a very difficult birth with DS and thought it might help. I want to try for a natural birth this time (ended up with emergency C-section last time) and thought a doula might help me achieve that aim. I had my sister and DH with me last time and can't imagine having only one support this time around (have moved away from home so sister isn't an option). DH quite supportive of the idea, but I haven't looked into costs/availability etc as yet.

Been reading 'what to expect when you're expecting' and also Lesley Regan's book, both of which have helped allay some of my fears in recent weeks...highly recommend them both.

Re MS....my symptoms are back with a vengeance ....threw up eating brekkie today and spent all yesterday dozing on the sofa after a trip to the supermarket wore me out!!

Dear All,
If this is your first PG don't read this message . It is far too soon for you guys to be thinking about the birth. It is a long time coming yet. Shopping yes birth plan no.

Sarahsausage - on the c-section front, you can't help but think about it I know! I had an emergency section with DS1 after initially planning a home birth. It was all very traumatic except for the c-section which was great and has left me in a quandry as to what to do this time.
Logic tells me it has got to be better to go for a VBAC but my instinct is to go for an elective which I hope will be offered. I would really like a really low intervention labour (home birth or active birth centre) but I have already been told I can't have because it is a VBAC. I can't bear a repeat of the awful hospital labour I had last time so just skipping to an elective which we may end up with anyway, seems an OK idea to me. I have no desire to prove a can do it naturally and at least you know what to expect with a section and can plan for it.

All this stuff about recovery times - not sure it is worse to be honest. A lot of my friends are still not right downstairs a couple of years after natural birth and what is the pressing urge to go to Sainsburys on day 2 anyway!
I did not recover well last time but that was only because I was not prepared for it and completely exhausted when I had the section.Also noone in hospital gave me any advice on how to recover effectively and being in hospital made me feel even worse anyway (crap food, too hot, no help, no sleep, no clean sheets for sicky baby... need I go on.)
In conclusion, here are my current thoughts on what I will do in case this helps.

Plan an elective - have plenty of sleep before hand, take nice music and be really firm about what you want to happen when baby is out.

Send DS1 to stay with my mum for a week.

Have section. Get out of bed ASAP. Push to go home ASAP.

Get DH to have a month off work and get a cleaner once a week for a month.

Explain to DS1 on his return that mummy can cuddle but not carry for a while. Be as active as possible without laughing or coughing!

As long as you have support DH/family friends to deal with other kids I think it is quite an attractive option.

Good luck with your decision making.