We may have been Bitter, but we’re no longer Barren! Get your *PESH* in here! All ready for the BESH clusterdiff of 2015 year of the *CuntCushion* (with added tea tree for those sore fanjo moments)!

[MissHobart]

BESH Graduates having a moan about the lack of Gin whilst actually being over the fucking moon to finally have a reason to not be able to drink it! Anything goes, especially asking the wiser CRESH for their sage advice on the horrors and amazement to come when we get the the biggest WIN in history! Bring your baybees here!

Just letting everyone know that I've just had another scan and all is still well, baby measuring exactly as expected at 15+2

Brilliant news Blue - how are you feeling about it all now. Is it getting any easier?

Thanks Fab feeling a little more real now, got a picture of a little one that looks like a baby. I've told work and more friends. It's almost like I'm a normal pregnant woman

Hope all is well with you and fablet

How exciting! It's weird though isn't it when you start finding yourself being like a 'normal'.

All good here - Fablet is wonderful and a source of constant happiness although at the moment we are on holiday and he's being a total asshat at night so I'm knackered. Thankfully it's a big family holiday so we have plenty of willing volunteers to play with him while I recoup. Now if I could only find a way to get TWH to stop fucking bitching about not having any sleep with he has approx 10 times what I have that would be great. Tiredness is the territory with a baby - deal with it!

yeah babies can be asshats at times, poor you and the lack of sleep although I'm still thrilled at how smitten you are with him

Yep, let's keep hoping for me 'normal' for me, I'm completely happy with that

Hooray blue, so pleased to hear that! Soon you'll start feeling kicks which will be a whole new realm of excitement. I'm going through a bit of nostalgia for pregnancy - need to remind myself of the swollen ankles, aching knees and heartburn!

Fab, sorry to hear Fablet and TwH are both playing up at the moment. But hope you are somewhere sunny! Trying to entertain minifizz in constant drizzle is taking all me ingenuity....

Hey Fizz, swollen ankles, heartburn, and sore knees I definitely have!!

Hope minifizz is doing well, fizzle in the drizzle ....

I know I'm the only one posting here now but needed to say ... Yay! 20 week scan done and all is fine I might actually be starting to believe there is a baby in there

blue YAY!!!! So pleased all is looking good on the scan. You haz won an acshul baybee! Huzzah!

Thanks Fizz

Hooray blue :)

I am the ESH formerly known as Winks, DD is now 2 and I am re-PESHed after 20 cycles of trying. 6+5 today and feel like shite!

Winks! Hi and congratulations! Nipple tassles out for PESH formally known as winks (those stars look a bit like nipple tassels, right?)

Only if you have v strange nips, blue!

Hooray! Congrats Winks! Another long haul eh? Glad there's another PESH in the ranks.

Well I am diffed now Fizz - you how that can change your nips

Nice nips blue

Yeah another reasonably long haul by civilian standards, practically an instadiff by ESH standards though. Just fretting now, I had a MMC before DD so frantic knicker checking isn't really reassuring. Private scan booked for 8+6. It is hot and I would love a delicious cold alcoholic beverage of some kind How's your diffment going?

I want to smash my face into a bowl of gin

Got everything crossed for you Winks, can you imagine the world of the instadiffer with no anxiety after a BFN

CRESH - were any of you induced due to IVF? I don't really want to be induced but consultant says they do it with all IVF pregnancies (also not sure how I would explain to my mum the induction considering she doesn't know about about the IVF!)

I wasn't induced (but was always going to be a c section). However my trust has a policy that if you have an IVF pregnancy they won't let you go past 41 weeks. There isn't a clear reason why, just that post 41-week deliveries are correlated with higher risk of stillbirth for IVFerz. fab I think had to be induced for this reason. I haven't heard of anywhere routinely inducing women who are pregnant via IVF - sounds very strange to me!

Thanks Fizz, she said they would induce all IVF before or on due date. I'm not convinced about it at all!

Oops - a bit late to this one but hello Hags! Blue, great news on your diffment going well :) have you felt any movement yet? Winks, oh this is the worst menkul stage isn't it. It's the 'please just let me get to the next hurdle' stage that seems never ending. Keep on hanging in there with the bean.
Fizz, how are you and MiniFizz doing? How old is she now?
Any news on Bad and Barking?
Fablet is now 9 months old now and crawling all of a sudden even though he hated tummy time until about a month ago! He's going through so many changes at the moment and is amazing. Unfortunately with change comes sleep regression again. Arse.

I was induced at 39.5 weeks due to my age (over 40) predominantly and the fact that I have auto-immune ishoos. I wouldn't recommend it if at all possible but that's because my body and Fsblet were about 2 weeks away from being ready so I then went along the cascade of intervention that ultimately led to sunroof exit after a very long time of attempting it the traditional way. You don't have to do what they say though - it's all advice. Are you consultant led or is this your midwife telling you this? Get them to give you the full medical details of why you need to be induced early. 'Because that's what we do' is absolutely not a good enough reason. Get stats!

Ps I'm massively jealous of diffments again but not in an angry way like before. I'd so so love to have another Fablet but the likelihood of getting a butter dish baby is minuscule and as is also the possibility of having IVF with my own eggs. Sigh. I loved being a differ (apart from the late first trimester constipation, the chronic insomnia and PGP). I found the process amazing and loved my body for growing a human so well. Still live in hope but droid is still AWOL despite the fact that I only breastfeed 3-4 times a day and not at night at all. Cut me a break powers that be!!

Hi Fab

Movements started last week which I really bloody needed, has made me much less menkul.

Fablet sounds adorable

Thanks re: induction advice, I don't want it, it's documented as much more painful. I have consultant input due to IVF, age and BMI but saw her student doctor who explained NOTHING (and wouldn't even write "fragmin" on a piece of paper so I could google it never mind explain it to me. I don't really want that either) have booked in with midwife to discuss her view but think I will refuse induction until I go over 40 weeks

And I get the jealously, it's so hard when our first doesn't come easy, not like the instadiffers hey?

Argh it's just not right when they won't explain. I was v lucky as I had TWH with me for those appointments and he works in risk so basically questioned everyone on everything including 'well why don't you know?? We refuse to make a decision based on no evidence. Until you as experts can supply us with evidence then how can we make an informed decision??' As you can imagine we were super popular!! How old are you again? And why do you need Fragmin? Did you have that or Clexane in your first trimester?

Congrats on feeling the flutters! It's so exciting when that happens and it's distinctly that (and not wind!). Such a wonderful feeling. I was very lucky and didn't get any kicks in the ribs at any point (I have no idea how!) but I did get quite a lot of lightening fanjo going on (kicks in the exit route that feels like lightening shooting down!). Not horrifically painful just literally shocking!

Oh I know, so annoying! I'm lucky, I have a research background in health so I'm reasonably confident in researching the information myself (I haven't yet, but I will) but it makes me furious for more vulnerable people.

I'm 37 so don't really think I'm that old but the combination of that, Bmi and IVF make me supposed high risk of clots. No need for anything before this point and it's being recommended from 28 weeks so I've 5 weeks to make a decision