The JS Grads turn 19! We're cooking and popping out our JSing babies with style, co-ordinated changing bags and a healthy dose of humour!!

[Leela5]

Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 19th grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The thread we have graduated from is here in its 36th outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread in postnatal clubs here for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates! It's a bit quiet at the moment, but with all these upduffed viroids hopefully it won't be for long!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

So, roll call below please, viroids!

Yeah, I would probably avoid it boo

The thing with the wedding we are going to, it's DH's family. My SIL won't go (to her, family is her DH and DC - she doesn't make much effort outside of that). My MIL is a widow and won't travel on her own and so it kind of forces us to go. BUT DH got ahead of himself and booked flights etc. before we told MIL about the baby.
She is now being funny about the whole trip and keeps saying "well that's IF we go". She vetoed our choice of accommodation as she declared that it wouldn't be suitable for me (an apartment on the second floor with no lift - I live in a townhouse and so deal with loads of stairs every day) and so now we are spending a fortune renting a house for a week instead.
It's all turned into a huge saga, I wish we had left it until MIL knew.

Boo I actually think it would be ridiculous for you to even consider going. I would not be 200 miles from hospital on my due date for anyone.

Who asked about Gina Ford? She's a woman who basically wrote a book about how to look after babies. It is a VERY structured plan involving getting up at same time every day and I think did involve feeding schedules although am sure she has probably adapted it to fit in with feeding on demand guidance. My ultimate hate is routine so I wouldn't even have attempted it. If I have two days the same I feel like I'm stuck in groundhog day and get depressed . However if you're a person who likes structure and routine then it can work well for you. I know people who have done it and loved it. Even if I may think it is verging on the mental side

I hadn't even thought that the two things could be connected Lil, I shall try to drink more and see if that helps.

I thought GF was a bit mental when I read it when I was pregnant.... Now I have an actual newborn I have no fucking idea how anyone could enforce that routine! I'd spend half my life checking the book to see what I was meant to be doing...

Good God Boo no way! I wouldn't be 200 miles away on my due date for my own wedding - much less anyone else's. What sort of ridiculous argument is it that the save the date went out before you were pregnant? So if you receive a save the date and then die, should you have made arrangements for your corpse to attend?

DP wants to visit his parents sometime before the baby comes. As I am still travelling away with work (well I've no trips planned but am 'available' for travel...) I can't reasonably say no but have said no later than the date we've pencilled in where I'll be about 35 weeks.

Mothercare customer service cheered me right up! They said yes to me getting a discount on the other car seat so I'm back to having bought three seats but with an extra 10% off as a sweetener for having to wait a couple of weeks longer. Fair dues!

It's deffo intolerant Monday.

I seem to have had a flurry of 'You won't know what's hit you, you'll be SO exhausted, you make the most of sleep now, your life will never be the same, you won't ever be able to have nice things, EVERYTHING WILL BE RUINED AS YOU KNOW IT' ' 'Advice' today and it is really, really, wearing thin. It seems the perception of me as a prospective mother is less 31 year old professional with stable partner and finances and reasonably sensible head, and more 19 year old rockstar who parties with Motley Crue most weekends and is having a baby by accident after an unfortunate backstage incident.
Usually I don't take much notice, but for some reason it's really hacking me off today. :(

Ooh, where's the wedding Fleur? Wouldn't it be lovely to relax on a nearby beach and then just pitch up to the important bits...?

I'm mad. Officially. EDD 23/6, we have wedding invites for two of our closest friends for both 27/6 and 4/7...both in the UK and I'm seriously considering going to them both. Mad.

Gina Ford wrote a very strictly timetabled book about how to structure your baby's days and nights. Works on a neonatal unit, but I could never even contemplate getting on with the idea in real life. Galling too, that she made a parenting book without ever having parented herself.

I did wonder how E was still going to be in your room, Cookie - giant crib/tiny baby...

chat the wedding is in Sweden, more jumpers than bikini weather

i read a Gina Ford book when I had DS - it scheduled everything down to the nth degree - told me I could "clear up the breakfast things and have a piece of toast at 9.40 am." Bugger that, why doesn't it tell you what hour of the day you're allowed to open the vodka? I Also foolishly read her book 'Potty training in one week' - ha ha HA HA HA! How to make you feel hopelessly inadequate as a parent when your son is still pooing his pants 4 months later. Anyway didn't she once try to sue mumsnet for dissing her? I better shut up!

So, I have started to tell friends (not work, I am scared!) and have had some lovely reactions but one of my best friends hasn't even acknowledged my message.

I have a what's app group with my oldest friends. I told them last night, before anyone else, sent a scan pic etc. lots of excited chatter last night/ this morning but nothing at all from her, zilch.

The conversation has now moved on to other things (understandably) but this person has not participated in any chat at all. She has been on there though (can see from her profile) and so is just ignoring me .
I am wondering whether she is having difficulties TTC? She has one DC already if that makes any difference.

Not sure what I should do now ignore it and carry on or message her separately?

I have similar with a really good friend of mine Fleur - She has been adamant for a LONG while that she didn't want kids, but after a few too many wines it's transpired it's actually her DH that doesn't, and she actually really, really does. When we did our announcement I didn't know, and thought she was cold shouldering me - it's really hard to know when you've upset someone, but I was upset too that she'd barely acknowledged the news, so I left it a couple of days and messaged her separately... things are unfortunately a bit odd between us still, and I'm hyper-sensitive to ramming my pregnancy down her throat, but still want to celebrate f that makes sense?

I'll be honest...I've never read GF - it was enough to watch my friends desperately try and persuade their baby to do as the book said he should be doing, when he always wanted to do the opposite. He's exactly as shit at sleeping as my DD which reassures me I didn't miss a trick

Fleur how inconsiderate. If you're going to wed overseas, it should be somewhere with a beach! Not sure why your friend is reacting in that way - v sad. Even in the aftermath of our miscarriages, I could still find it in me to send a congratulations text with clenched teeth. Maybe drop by with chocolate? Must be hard though, I know friends are struggling TTC and though I don't want to be going on about pregnancy, it's hard not to moan about constant sickness when they ask how you are.

Thanks. She has moved away and so I don't see her regularly- one of the reasons we have our chat group is so that we can all keep in touch. I just feel sad that I may have upset her

I'd probably leave it fleur ... let her bring it up in her own time. Don't feel bad though, if she is having issues then you weren't to know xx

fleur I'd leave it a couple of days then message her separately about something completely unrelated, and only bring up your pg if she did. and then just don't over do it (as my friend did to me this morning for 90minutes, and she knows our story!) you can't be expected to shelter her from things if you don't know her story but I think the lack of response is enough of an indication of a sensitivity to tread gently.

Viroids
www.labourpains.com/assets/_managed/cms/files/InfoforMothers/PAIN-RELIEF/Comparison%20Leaflet%20on%20Pain%20Relief%20Options%20in%20Labour.pdf this is a chart about the different pain relieve options I found it courtesy of ladybunnikins on a thread I started about an upcoming Anaesthetic Review.

That's useful thank you boo! Interesting that meptid isn't on the list. I keep meaning to ask if the hospital I will be at provide it!

Interested to read that diamorphine has no effect on labour according to this. I thought it was meant to slow things down? I had it (even though I said I never would) and I've been blaming it/ myself for the way things turned out...

I thought diamorphine had no blooming effect on the pain either. Bloody useless, not really sure why they use it. Although I had two epidurals in the space of four hours and it still only worked down one side of my body so maybe it's just me.

Fleur your friend may have been on whatsapp reading other messages or sending a message - she may not have got around to reading your group's messages yet. If I'm working it sometimes takes me ages to get around to it or I forget but still might go on if I need to contact someone else. Certainly wouldn't feel bad about it, if there's a problem you don't know about you can't be expected to be account for it. I have a friend who can't have kids and I would be a bit sensitive around her at first. But actually she's the first to congratulate people and she loves being involved with everyone's kids so now I don't really filter.

Same Wil I don't think it helped with the pain... it just made me insanely sleepy!

Hello!

I'm still here, just not got much to say, quietly reading :). Although was talking to DH tonight and mentioned to him that I'm 33 weeks on fri, and then was a bit "omg I'm 33 weeks soon!!"

Growth scan and discussions with consultants over my blood pressure issues on wed, I also want to see if I can pin them down to an induction date if things carry on being ok, will they do this or will they fob me off with lots of "it'll depend" or "we'll have to see"??

Meptid is hard to get hold of at the moment. Diamorph is great - had it post spinal surgery. Never heard of it slowing labour down, but it does knock the babies out - they sometimes forget to breathe once they're out.

Zyla they may well give you a theoretical induction date, but be prepared for it to change several times as they can't predict demand, or your BP

chat I was thinking that your DD and my DS could hang out together but then I remembered he's not coming with us. Would still be ace anyway.

No shagging here viroids. I've stopped feeling like a bag of shite but now can't really be arsed (poor DH).

DH just told be he'd been outside this evening looking for comet Lovejoy! I thought he was joking that there was a comet named after McShane's finest moment but it really does exist! DH has also cleaned the whole downstairs this evening including steam mopping the floors. Maybe he does deserve some bedroom action.

Viroids totally off topic I do apologise but can I ask you all a boring question?
I know you're supposed to give work notice about mat leave at 25 weeks. I'm currently signed off work and have been for a while. After trying to speak to work about it they've told me they won't discuss it until I'm back in work. It's got me panicking that when I go back and finally get to discuss with the boss they'll be telling me I've left it too late or something.. What would you wonderful people do?

chat theoretical date is fine! I just want an idea, even if it has to change :)

mrsnm I'd email your manager and copy HR in giving them dates in writing and asking if there are any forms you need to fill in and who they want you to sent your mat1b form to. Maybe copy in your manager's manager too, just to give them a kick up the bum! That way you have evidence you've asked and tried to inform them :)

mrsnm I'm with zyla