Due February 2007 - 2nd Trimester

[CurrantBun]

For those of us due February 2007 and moving from the first to the second trimester ...

We've made it this far - only another 6 months to go! (Gulp!)

hello everyone, haven't posted on here for ages, hope everyone is feeling perkier and less sick. i'm still knackered and having headaches all the time but less vomity at last (at 16 weeks).

had a reflexology session last week which was absolute bliss and think i felt the baby move. haven't noticed anything since though.

has sshh had her scan and revealed who she is yet?

Hi guys

I've had another nuchal scan with a blood test and I've now been given a 1:27000 chance compared to 1:15 I was initially given so I'm feeling very happy.

I'm 13+5 and did not put on any weight in my first trimester, in fact i think I might have lost a little weight since last week over the stress of my first nuchal scan

But I think my bump is starting to show a little bit or maybe that's just wishful thinking!

Morning all

Congrats on all the good nuchal results girls.

I had a bit of a rubbish day yesterday two more lots of spotting, heard babys heartbeat though so that did put my mind at rest a little. And wok eup feeling sick and with that acky taste in my mouth this morning. Belly is achy though i think i pulled a muscle coughing, i coughed and couldnt move for ages till the pain went it was awful. Worrying i might have done some damage down there. Next appt isnt till 6th sept though!

How is everyone else feeling today?

I have to go food shopping today!

N1

Congratulations, you must be SOOOO relieved!!!

Hi Ladies, do you mind if I join you?

I'm a first-timer - 14 wks today. Due on 20 Feb.

Had my scan last week and everything was wonderful. Baby was very wiggly - is this normal? Or am I going to be carrying an acrobat for the next 6 months? (DH was apparently a very wigglesome child).

I've felt absolutely lousy for the last 8 wks and am just starting to emerge from the woods now. When does the bloom and radiance begin?

Pumpkin x

Welcome Pumpkin. Was just wondering that myself about when the radiance begins?? I'm 13+1 and waiting!

Soundbites, I'm really keen on an active birth with as little medical intervention as possible. I really don't like hopsitals and doctors much anyway, but I've read a lot about some hospitals having 'time targets' for the first stage of labour, and if you're not progressing fast enough they can intervene whether or not you want them to do so. I'm sure they use 'risk to the baby's health' as leverage but the truth is they're all scared to death of lawsuits if something goes wrong so I think err on the side of Caesarians more than is necessary. I just feel the whole atmosphere of a birthing centre or home will be more relaxed and more conducive to a positive experience. Of four friends who've recently had babies, one gave birth at home (on the bathroom floor - wasn't planned but baby arrived rather quicker than planned!), and the other three in hospital. Two of the three hospital births were by C-section as the labours were taking a long time and there was "concern" for the babies (how founded that was there is of course no way of knowing ...) My other friend finally gave birth naturally after a hell of a struggle and some horrific tearing. I'm sure that most hospital births are fine but I just like the idea of being more in control myself, rather than dictated to by doctors and nurses.

Maazaa, sadly I'm not Paula and she's due about a month before me. She's also about an hour quicker over a marathon than me! But it's good that she's still running as it encourages other pregnant women like myself to do the same. I'm still getting out there 5 times a week, although I'm doing nearer 25 miles a week than the 40 I was doing pre-pregnancy. I have loads of energy and generally feel good, GP and midwife have encouraged me to continue as long as I feel up to it, so why not? I'm convinced it will help me to have an easier birth too, as well as recover more quickly afterwards, as I'll be fit and my muscle tone will still be good.

N1, 1:27000 as opposed to 1:15? That's a HUGE difference - are you sure it's not 1:2700? How come the two scans gave such massively different results? Good news though.

howdy everyone!

Didn't manage to get broadband working at home (grrr) so still only posting at work. As always, loads to catch up on since I was last in touch!

Currantbun, I hope you get into the birthing centre. I think they'd be insane not to let you in with your undoubted level of fitness (wish I could run 25mls in a week even without a bump!).

I'm hoping to be able to use the midwife led unit within the larger maternity ward which I did last time - it was really calm and they just left me alone, but when things didn't progress they also calmly took me along to the other part where more drs and mws were available to help me get through. This time they also have pools so I'm really hoping for a water birth if at all poss.

I'd definitely recommend the active birth route for those who are up for it. Although I had a v long labour, I knew what was happening and felt largely in control except for right at the end when I ended up on my back trying to push, which is just the worst position! For me, because I was scared of giving birth, the active stuff was a way of dealing with the fear and being in control.

Right, better polish off the rest of my sandwich and get back to work!

Currantbun my BMI is 18.5 or was when measured at first appt and I've had one home birth and will have another this time, I'm sure it'll be fine. You've inspired me to run tonight, only 3 miles though I haven't been out for 10 weeks, eek!
I was waiting for the sickness and tiredness to go,.... then I ate a bar of chocolate ....and well here I am at 16 weeks hoping I haven't left it too late. I'll let you know how I do tomorrow.
Feeling better today, yesterday seemed to wipe me out but I think it's more to do with the weekend. Oh and for the second time in two days my 2.8yo ds has flushed a whole toilet roll down the toilet and flooded the bathroom......he's clever you know. I'm leaving him for his daddy to sort out I'll end up throttling him

Hello girls, just a quick one. Haven't been on last couple of days was wiped out by a horrible tummy bug. Not very good.

Went to the midwife today for 16 wk check up and couldn't believe I was in there for 5 mins. Is this the norm when you are a 2nd time mum??
I suppose I shouldn't moan in a way at least I heard the baby's heartbeat but they seem to rush you along when your a 2nd timer.

Roll on 25 wk appointment.

Sorkycake, at you "only" running 3 miles!!! I felt quite proud of myself for doing fast walking on the treadmill at the gym!

Have got 2 videos I will try out this evening: pilates in pregnancy and yoga in pregnancy, as I want to stay reasonably fit. I've also got something called the Y Plan for Pregnancy - I'll let you know what I think after I've tried them all.

Didn't get to go out for a run last night as Dh got a call to say his gran was in hospital and he went to visit her. I'm promised the time tonight however.
Girls, I got the results of my NTD bloods and scan for Downs' back (via post) this morning and it said low risk 1:256, which is good yeah? It said risk cut off was 1:250 at term, what does that mean cos I'm only 6 above it? Or is there nothing in it?
Have my m/w appt at 11.15 am will ask her as well, though in typical style I bet she brushes me off and says, don't worry!

Sorky, hope you manage to get out for your run today. Don't worry that you haven't done anything for 10 weeks - I know how hard it is when you're feeling sick and tired. I didn't get the tiredness, but I did throw up in the middle of a couple of my runs - wasn't letting the nausea deter me though! Fortunately it was behind a tree in the local park so not on the pavement or anything which would have been embarrassing!

I'm running anywhere up to 6 miles at a time - have managed 8-10 a couple of times but cut down on the length while the weather was warm as I was concerned about overheating, especially in the early weeks. During the heatwave I didn't run at all - my sickness was at its worst and I was worried that I'd get too hot and damage my baby.

That's really encouraging to hear you had a home birth with a BMI of 18.5. If mine was 18.5 there'd be no problem as that's the lower limit for the birth centre or home birth option - mine is 18. But hopefully the consultant will take the rest of my medical history into account too, and will agree with the midwife that I'm an excellent candidate for a home birth.

Currantbun and Sorkycake, you put me to shame with your running!

I tried the Y Plan exercise DVD last night, and actually found it quite tough but then I suppose I have radically toned down my gym workouts so am not as fit as I was pre-pregnancy. Also, in the early weeks I felt so tired that I just couldn't do much exercise. I will try it again tomorrow, and might consider buying it (I've got it on my Amazon rental) so I can do something regularly at home.

Have just got a letter from the hospital asking me to go and see the consultant at the end of October. Don't you just love the way hospitals operate? No consultation, just "be here on this date", and nothing about why they want to see me.

Sorky, about your Down's risk rating: it means you have a 1 in 256 chance of your baby having Down's Syndrome, but I guess you already knew that. How you assess "low risk" is very subjective. My local hospital uses the 1:250 figure as a guideline, and advises people with worse risk ratings to go for amnio, and with better ones not to. But it's just a guideline - some friends of mine have taken a 1:100 risk rating as a low risk, and others have said they would have amnio if the risk was more than 1:1,000. Sorry, I don't know if that helps you much, but it's just some thoughts.

Hiya girls

hope you all enjoy your jogging, im too lazy!

Just wanted to pop in and say Ive had mroe spotting today, rung midwife and being scanned at 3pm this afternoon, wish me luck x x We are scared

Julie 14+2

good luck julezboo!

I can't keep up with this thread at all - no time with our move abroad to think about being pregnant really - probably a good thing. Had scan yesterday (at 13+4) and all was fine - very relieved after the bleeding I've had.

Oh, Julezboo - everything crossed for you. Really hope it's nothing to worry about. Let us know how it goes.

Hugs xx

Fingers crossed for you this afternoon julezboo.

Okay girls, step forward, who wants to slap me cos I really need it right NOW!
Went to see the m/w and met with the choccy fireguard as per usual, hoest to God I don't know why I bother. She said that my levels were pertinent to me and were reached not because of my age but the levels of protein in my blood, so I'm not to look at what markers are predicted for my age iyswim.
This helps none I'm afraid, I've entered into panic mode . She says the 250 level is simply a cut off where they would automatically offer amnio to you but given that I'm so close at 256 that she will refer me if I would like that.
I honestly expected my levels to be higher. Wish I'd never had the test done as I have more questions than answers and noone seems either willing or able to answer them.
F*#$ running, I'm off to scarf a cake ...or 3...and some chocolate.

So sorry julezboo, I'm so selfish, didn't see you're going for your appt. Best of wishes and good luck for it sweetie x

Sorky, sorry to hear your midwife wasn't very helpful.

FWIW, I had my nuchal scan done at the Fetal Medicine Centre and their "cut off" is 1:300 - i.e. they will offer/suggest diagnostic testing (CVS or amnio) to anyone whose risk is higher than that. I'd say it's still worth looking at what your age-alone risk would be - how old are you? For example, my risk based on age alone would have been 1:148, so I'd have probably been happy with a 1:256 result. At the end of the day though, whatever result you get, it's still only a risk assessment. Mine was 1:3000, but my baby could be that one. We decided against further testing but only because the risk of losing the baby was higher than the risk of him/her having a chromosomal abnormality. Had I been borderline, I'd already decided I'd go for CVS. This can be done earlier than amnio so less stressful waiting around.

Ultimately, though, only you can decide what to do. If the baby had Down's, would you keep it? If so, there's probably no point in opting for further testing. If no, then you might want to consider it . Sorry - no easy answers, are there?

I recommend going for a short run. It'll clear your head and enable you to work this through in your mind. Trust me - I solve all my problems and stresses by pounding them into the pavement.

Post here as much as you like - we're here to help (not that we can really be of much help in this case, I know ...)

Thanks cb,
I will go running because I always feel better afterwards. The levels for my age (32) were 520 or something close to that, so mine are halved, or doubled whichever way you're supposed to look at it. Need to speak to Dh when he gets in and after run really but thanks very much for the support. Hope julezboo is okay

hello all,
can I gatecrash and join your gang - I'm 13 weeks tomorrow, carrying twins, but nuchal for twin2 very high 6.5. So thats kind of taken the shine off things to say the least. Feeling worried and confused.
I'm feeling ok though just tired and retching badly at loading the dishwasher, or leftover food. Being more lazy than usual - still in bed now, must get up and get my DS (6 1/2yrs) and DD(4 1/2yrs) out for some exercise. I'm sure it will be good for me too!

Just a quick note before I head off to lie down, too much crying and worryinghas tired me out.

Baby is fine, was doing summersaults so in great health, couldnt see no reason for spotting but told to keep an eye on it!

Thanks girls

Sorkycake - dont worry honey, we all have our worries x x x

Sorky, thinking of you and hope you have a good discussion with your dh tonight.

great news on scans julez and MrsJC.

Mine is tomorrow. I will be 13+5. Bit nervous and can't wait.