November 2014 Thread 2: Springing through the first trimester!

[Nessalina]

Welcome to all you nervous November ladies! Settle in for sore boobs, inappropriate puking, and hopefully happy early scans!

The crew so far:

Just1moretime DC3 due Oct/Nov
devoncreamtea due late Oct
MammySam DC2 due 31st Oct
RandomInternetStranger DC2 due 1st Nov
Canweseethebunnies DC2 due early Nov
booksshoescats DC2 due 3rd Nov
BatCave DC3 due 2nd Nov
Hopeful83 DC1 due 2nd Nov
Annarose2014 due 2nd Nov
CraziesTogether DC1 due 3rd Nov
WinterLover DC2 due 4th Nov
weeonion DC2 due 6th Nov
alita7 DC1 due 6th Nov
caravela due 5th Nov
Littleyewtree DC2 due 7th Nov
Greenstone DC2 due 7th Nov
flipflopsonfifthavenue DC2 due 7th Nov
AussieGoingHomeSoon DC3 due 7th Nov
SazHoopz DC2 due 7th Nov
Fergie11 due 7th Nov
Snook99 due 7th Nov
AveryJessup DC2 due 8th Nov
MabelMay DC3 due 8th Nov
edwardcullensotherwoman DC3 due 8th Nov
Catnap1 DC1 due 8th Nov
Polkadotscarf due 9th Nov
RecklessLadybird DC1 due 9th Nov
Nessalina DC1 due 10th Nov
ladydolly due 10th Nov
PosyFossilsShoes due 10th Nov
LittleRedDinosaur DC2 due 10th Nov
MrsY87 DC1 due 10th Nov
Giraffeski lo DC3 due 11th Nov
BJZebra DC2 due 11th Nov
MrsCuppa DC1 due 11th Nov
nickiswiss due 11th Nov
Mathssssteacher123 DC2 due 11th Nov
HRMumness DC2 due 12th Nov
Misslaughalot due 12th Nov
LadyMillion DC1 due 12th Nov
Amyrose82 DC1 due 12th Nov
FurryScoob DC1 due 13th Nov
Tigsy DC1 due 13th Nov
Lauraparsons233 due 13th Nov
WutheringTights DC2 due 13th Nov
Grayby due 13th Nov
movingmovingmoving DC2 due 14th Nov
MrsWombat DC2 due 14th Nov
Petal26 DC2 due 14th Nov
Misslaughalot DC2 due 14th Nov
Laura1410 DC2 due mid Nov
happyjessie due mid Nov
BeetleBeetle due mid Nov
Baxter2014 due 15th Nov
33goingon64 DC2 due 15th Nov
SeaSaltMill DC1 due 15th Nov
theduchesse DC2 due 15th Nov
Barmybunting DC1 due 16th Nov
selsigfach DC1 due 16th Nov
Getyourflipflopson DC3 due 16th Nov
pinkgirlythoughts DC2 due 17th Nov
StudyFullTime DC2 due 17th Nov
Snooky17 DC4 due 17th Nov
daisydalrymple DC3 due 18th Nov
DilysMoon DC3 due 18th Nov
stowsettler DC2 due 19th Nov
Whenwillwe3meet again DC1 due 19th Nov
utopian99 DC2 due 20th Nov
robynarmstrong92 DC1 due 21st Nov
NorthernExile DC2 due 23rd Nov
keeponkeepinon DC3 due 24th Nov
maeanne DC2 due 26th Nov
ImBrian DC5 due 26th Nov
Sleepingstarsmommy DC1 due 27th Nov
WhatWouldCaitlinDo due Nov

alita - poor you - have you had a scan yet? I can't remember. I think you should if you haven't, to put your mind at rest, particularly, as you say, given the timing of your mc.

books I had one at 6 + 5 and all was well with a heart beat.

that was after spotting etc so as I haven't spotted as bad as I was the week before the scan I'm not hugely worried, but then at the same time I am :s

I don't know whether to push for another but it seems unfair when I've had one already and my 12 week one is 20 days away.

morning ladies, had my booking in appointment today at home- midwife seems lovely!

alita - I'm sure everything will be fine.

random - I hope you start feeling better soon - maybe speak to your midwife about how you're feeling.

My spotting has turned to fresh red blood and still have cramps do went to the doctor. She has referred me for an early scan. Am waiting for them to call me back to book it in but have been told it will probably be Monday now.

BJzebra, you can go to A&E with that, I would.

bjzebra - why don't you go to the EPU - I'm sure they'd see you. fingers crossed for you that everything is ok.

zebra I hope it's nothing! but as others said just turn up at the epu!

Alita and BJZebra: Boo to spotting and bleeding! I hope you can get reassurance soon.

I had some spotting so went to see the GP today and he arranged a scan for this afternoon. I'm quite surprised how quick that is, but I'm glad he's taking it seriously. This was a different GP than the last one I saw... last one said 'oh it's normal', this one said 'it's usually normal, but what we do is arrange an early scan'.

Also, when I got to the GP they had a prescription for me to increase my meds for hypothyroidism. Another GP (yes, I've seen three now, not on purpose though) said that wouldn't be needed, but he referred me to the endo who sent a letter advising an immediate increase. I'm happy with that as well, because I was worried about it.

I'm 6+4 now, but time seems to be going so slooooowly.

BJZebra, I agree, I think you should just turn up and insist they see you, you'll have a horrendous time worrying over the weekend otherwise.
When I had my early scan I was the only person there and one other arrived as I was leaving - there was another room completely unused. I know it depends on where you are etc.. but I don't necessarily thinks they are always that busy with bookings, they expect to have some urgent/self-referrals.

Same goes you Alita, I think it's worth asking, even if you next scan isn't that far off, 20 days drags impossibly when you're worried and it won't do you any good to have the anxiety hanging over you - worth trying at least.

As for the in-laws, why don't you just tell them you've had a bad tummy bug and you're exhausted and still off your food and booze and only fancy bland carbs, predominantly crumpets please!

I've already told my mums (very excited Grandma and Nana!) and almost all of my friends guessed at a hen do last weekend as I have never been sober in their presence for very long, some already knew due to my new-found (relative) calmness after my (unfounded) infertility hysteria in January.
I don't think I could hide it much longer with the size of my tummy anyway but I know only too well that it's very early to be telling people.
Has anyone else told people yet?

8w5d

Blamber, please can I ask what TSH level your GP considers normal/acceptable during the first trimester?
I was concerned that I was slightly hypothyroid as I have pretty much every symptom under the sun and had them before pregnancy, in fact for a year or two, I just didn't realise until I started reading/googling/obsessing!
I had a TSH thyroid test and it came back as 2.79, my GP seems to think this is fine for 1st trimester but I have read that it should be under 2 and 2.5 at the very most and think my GP is going on the guidelines for 'unpregnant' people of up to 5 being ok.
What do you reckon? Thanks!

ellie we have. Told family at 8 weeks after my early scan. Some close friends know too but work and other friends have 3 weeks to wait to find out

Ellie, I'm not sure. Mine was under 2 just before pregnancy. In another thread I started Dinosnores posted a link to a document by the endocrine society, which recommends levels under 2.5. So you would not be far off, but with hypothyroidism it's not just about levels, it's also about the symptoms you're feeling. Then there are T4 levels, which I don't know if you had tested. I'll ask the endo as well when I see him.

elliekins I told my best friends very early because I was bleeding when I was away for the weekend with them. I told a few others just because I was in a situation where I had to and this morning I told my boss because I'm feeling so poorly at work.

It seems a bit backward because I'm waiting until my scan in a week to tell my family but then I can actually celebrate without the 'if's' and 'fingers crossed' whereas the ones that know I've not let them get excited in case it doesn't work out.

What do you guys think? Is it weird?

Thanks Blamber, I've read through the other thread, you said yours was 1.4 which sounds a lot better than 2.79 and I have got symptoms but many are the same as the usual pregnancy symptoms.
What a bloody nightmare - I've read how bad it can be for the baby's brain development and I'd be happier if they agreed with me that they should be below 2 or 2.5. I'd already seen the stuff from the endocrine society and the NICE guidelines.
They haven't tested my T3 or T4 yet, she just fobbed me off with 2.79 was fine and said to ask for TSH, T4 and Thyroid Peroxidase antibodies tests when they take my bloods at 10-12 weeks.
I can't help being nervous as all the crucial development is happening right now!!

WinterLover, glad I'm not the only one who's told!

Ellie don't worry too much, your levels aren't much higher than 2.5 so I don't think it'll harm the baby. Were you tested during pregnancy? How far along are you now?

Yes, was tested about 3 weeks ago at 5 weeks, never been tested before.
I suppose it's not too much higher than the recommended level and I would rather avoid medication if possible, but equally having read about how it can affect the developing brain in first trimester, I am bloody terrified, baby is going to need all the extra I.Q points it can get as it is!
I've been self-medicating with chocolate Brazil nuts for selenium and chocolate hazelnuts for manganese just so I feel I'm doing something, and if I wouldn't be instantly sick I would try seaweed for iodine - I'm really struggling to eat things that are good for me!
Will call midwife and ask if they'll do bloods at 10 weeks rather than 12 but the hospital I've chosen is miles away from my GP as the other one has such a bad reputation I've refused to go there.
Argh!
Thanks for calming me down!

Blamber I'm 8w5d today!

I told my parents and a couple of close friends but haven't told his parents yet as we only see them with the kids and don't want to tell them until 12 weeks.

Beetle by viability do you mean 24 weeks??

Ellie, I think the IQ thing is for undiagnosed very underactive thyroids, with TSH levels that are much, much higher. It's a good idea to ask the midwife for a test just for your own reassurance. You can get private blood tests as well but they're quite expensive.

I wouldn't recommend seaweed. Firstly, iodine levels in seaweed vary greatly. You never know how much you're getting or if you're getting too much. Secondly, iodine deficiency is quite rare. They usually tell hypothyroid patients not to take the seaweed. If you can stomach it, dairy is best, I think non-organic semi-skimmed milk has the most iodine. I do use iodine salt though, but where I grew up this salt was added to bread, so when I moved here I thought it was best not to stop it - not that I use much salt!

I just got back from an early scan and everything looked good! They saw the embryo with a little heartbeat. They dated me 6+3, which is pretty much what I guessed. They couldn't find a source for the bleeding, but found some free fluid in one ovary (the one I ovulated from), but they weren't concerned about that. I now have a picture to show my OH! I just can't believe there's something growing inside me that has its own little heartbeat... mad.

Ellie, I forgot to say, my surgery does blood tests, maybe yours does? Just explain how it's very far to travel to hospital.

I am having my antenatal appt the same day my PIL areccoming to stay. So will tell them that evening as we wouldn't see them for months after.

But then I realised that it may be bad news so am worried about that. Do we tell them and ruin their big holiday and cast a gloom over the whole week? Or not tell them and fake smiles all week?