The maybies are in the second trimester and (hopefully) entering the blooming phase just in time for a cozy Christmas. Thread no 5?!

[mumof2aimingfor4]

Lets scoff the mince pies and christmas cake, the belly is all baby......honest!

Stats page: docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvygwA-EKhURdDMwQWNNWGt0cHhmVkloazVVQ0hYNUE#gid=0

Size of baby: m.thebump.com/pregnancy/pregnancy-tools/articles/how-big-is-baby.aspx?MsdVisit=1

Unfortunatly!

In other news don't update your iPads folks the new operating system is awful.

Hi all, marking my place on the new thread. Have been out for a couple of weeks, we having been having a lot of problems with DPs family and it all came to a head last week including death threats (to me and baby), a smashed window and DP has a black eye, so it's been a bit of a nightmare week, I feel like I'm living an episode of eastenders :/ but we are both determined to plough through and look forward to starting our own family :)

A couple of lovely things happened though - heard the baby's heartbeat and also got a date through for our next scan - 23rd dec just in time for Xmas :)

Doubt I will have time to catch up but I do hope all you ladies are well x

alioh that's terrible, I don't know what to say stay positive and safe !! You might need to involve the police...

Same due date as hezbean and rebecca too , I had no idea as my due date changed recently

little I hope things are still settled for you

Alioh with family like that who needs enemies!

Bleeding red again but no pain still holding out to see my own midwife and Dr tomorrow.

DH went and bought the new iPad (we currently have 5 in the house ) so he's taking me to look at Pushchairs next weekend.

Oooh good news apple and hezbean we have the trifecta. I'm east London too. Hackney. So we are all close. We MUST meet up some time.

Sorry to hear things are tough Little. I have had a lot of bleeding and everything seems to be fine.

xx

OH keeps telling me I need to go and speak to the doctor about how I'm feeling, but one of his friends today had the police at the door because her now-ex boyfriend says she has post natal depression, and I really don't want to go and speak to them. I'm having nightmares about the baby being taken away from me and I feel like if I go and tell them how I'm feeling, they'll take the baby away from me. I feel like if I go and tell them the truth, they'll say they have no choice, but I don't want to hurt the baby or OH or anyone else, just myself :( feeling lost :(

Go and see a Dr moomin. No one is going to take your baby off you and it's very unusual for the police to get involved if you've seen a dr and are getting help. Ante natal depression is more common than people think.

moomin I wouldn't worry about police at your door for any form of depression. It sound like someone lied and said she was a danger to herself and others hence the checking. Police and social services are experienced in snifng out malicious allegations.

SW, Drs etc are more concerned when people are having problems and the don't seek help rather than the other way around.

I can understand why your feeling lost you are in a very unpredictable situation its normal to feel down.
Why does you OH feel that you need help? Do YOU feel like you need help?
Does he suggest this when you challenge him about his behaviour?

I know I need help, I'm just too scared to go. OH thinks I need help because I've hidden it for a while but Friday night I nearly punched a hole in the bedroom wall and was screaming that I wanted to die, which was true at the time until I calmed down, and he finally saw it when I'd hidden it for a while. He sat me down and basically said that he was scared he can't do anything to help and he thinks I need to speak to someone who can help.

Make an appointment with your midwife moomin you won't be the first to tell her you have felt this way.

Moomin, I would seriously consider going to see your GP. There is support out there that they will be able to help you access. I know that it might seem scary but it is better to have this stuff out in the open. The whole system is set up to support you and no one is going to want to take away your baby xx

I agree with what the others have said moomin. Recognising that you're struggling and need some support is surely a sign of a responsible adult who wants to be the best parent they can be, rather than someone whose baby they would need to consider taking away.

little - good luck with getting some better reassurance from your mw/consultant this week. Hope you're doing ok.

Is it bed time yet

moomin I have just been referred for some talking therapy by my GP. I have suffered from depression in the past and I felt myself beginning to feel bad again, nothing too serious but I was getting very tearful and I was having some negative thoughts so I thought I would nip it in the bud before it got worse.
My doc said talking therapy was preferable to medication during pregnancy if possible, though there are medical options that are safe too.

There is no shame in it and it happens to plenty of people.
Depression is an illness that can be treated and no one is out to take your baby. Your child needs you to be happy and healthy and it is your responsibility to look after yourself both physically and mentally.
Please see your GP they really have heard it all before.

I took sertraline all the way through my pregnancy and breast feeding with DD2 as I had PND with DS2 so was still taking it. You have plenty of options, you certainly aren't alone in feeling the way you do xx

moomin depression can spiral more out of control, fast. See someone. They won't take away your baby, it's not your fault. It's a chemical unbalance that needs treated with whatever your doc thinks can treat it. Drugs, therapy, exercise, whatever. Being proactive will ensure you get the support you need. Head in the sand will only make things worse. Even talking it through with your midwife will help. Believe me, she'll have come across this a hundred times. X

moomin plenty of good advice. I just wanted to you it must be so scary but your not alone.

loopy thank you. Nothing much has changed physically but I'm feeling better emotionally. DH is just so damn positive that come May we will have a healthy baby that its helped me relax a little.

Little....
I have a great feeling that we
Are all goin to get thru all these
Good, bad and ugly times
Together! Yes were strangers but were also a team!! Were here for u just as u are here for us!!

Come rant/cry/talk/moan/express anything you feel is a coping mechanism! We are all going to have out pfb come spring and it will be amazing for us all to share that together!

Lots and lots of love to u xxxx

Awe thanks thistle I worry I'm bringing the mood down with my troubles.
GO team May!

Very almost nearly half way through !!

We've got a blue baby! And definitely didn't spend a fortune yesterday on clothes for him (that still sounds odd!)

Sending lots of positivity to everyone

Aww Polly that's lovely

Congrats Polly. Lovely news. Me too for team blue.

That's three boys from the thread an no girls as yet. We need a few to even it up.

Great news Polly!
I just got the date for my 20 week scan! 20th December, when I'm 20 weeks exactly. Can't wait!!

Anyone else had a cold that just will not go. It has been almost two weeks now. I feel sick and tired again like morning sickness is back :(

Also back in another slump of being irritable and down, skin has flared up again so I'm guessing that's more hormonal Hijinks to blame. Pregnancy sucks.