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October 2013: The Fourth Trimester - the bit no one warns you about!

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roxvox · 27/10/2013 16:24

Stats sheet here

New arrivals here

Key:
SC - still cooking (pre EDD)
SFW - still f*ing waiting (post EDD)
OWT - on way to theatre (CS)
IP - induction in progress
SWIL - somewhere in labour
LIT - lost in transition

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Flyer747 · 09/11/2013 08:44

Bowl we were considering a nanny! Honestly it got that bad last night we would have paid anything. I may look into it.

MrsHoratioNelson · 09/11/2013 08:48

God I don't know how those of you with trickier babies are doing it, C is basically a good baby and I'm exhausted and I think I'm coming down with a cold - I'm just praying he doesn't get it too. It's just relentless and I feel like I never get more than about an hour to recover between feed, wind, settle sessions.

I'm going to try to express enough for a feed so that DH can give him a bottle later and I can get a bit of rest. Now successful that will be we'll see - DH doesn't seem I possess the knack of settling him although I suppose to be fair that's because he doesn't feed him and therefore doesn't have to.

thethreeblondies · 09/11/2013 08:51

Oh flyer what a tough night, sleep deprivation is a type of torture Sad

My best friend had real problems with her first, colic, reflux (later on allergies) she took her son to see a Cranial Osteopath and swears it relieved him of some deep routed discomfort. On her recommendation my sis took her little boy too and again she saw results, might be worth looking in to xx

Natalieand · 09/11/2013 09:13

I've heard good things about cranial osteopaths too blondies

I second what mrshn says I don't no how those with trickier babies do it, H is very well behaved in the evening he has his 'time' but usually just holding him keeps him happy and by the time I go to bed he's back to his normal self anyway.

cazboldy · 09/11/2013 09:20

Hugs flyer, poor little A, must be very hard on you. Im sorry I have no idea what to suggest, though it seems there is some good advice on here xx

we weighed Lucinda yesterday and she was 9lbs 8, so still gaining v. well. Smile

also had some photos done of all of the dc at a studio that i had a voucher for as christmas presents for family.

xuntitledx · 09/11/2013 09:21

"Sorry for sleeping!" - lol! Very melodramatic Grin

flyer - so sorry to hear that you and A are having so many issues. When googling reflux and colic, I've also seen cranial osteopath suggested so maybe this is the next thing you want to investigate? Probably pointing out the obvious so apologies if I sound patronising but have you changed your diet since pregnancy which may be disagreeing with her? Spicy / alcohol etc!

mrsh - I expressed last night as DH wanted to try a feed and also to let me sleep. I was only able to express 30mls so needed to top him up anyway and similar to the dummy, he really didn't like the teat so was very fussy! Don't think we'll be trying that again anytime soon!

Flyer747 · 09/11/2013 09:27

Untitled no change in diet I'm not even drinking. I've had the odd glass of wine, just too tired to fancy alcohol.

I am cutting out cows milk as I hear this can help massively. Also trying to eliminate dairy but it's quite tricky. And drinking decaf tea!

The thing that's stressing me out is this could take months to get better! I'm a mess already after a few weeks Hmm

xuntitledx · 09/11/2013 09:31

Don't think about it like that or you will go crazy, easier said than done but take each day as it comes - that's all you can do to cope right now.

roofio87 · 09/11/2013 09:53

flyer so sorry you had such a bad night. I can't really imagine how hard it must be that she is crying so much.

mrsh I feel the same as you, baby is pretty good really, apart from a bit of colic which seems to be improving, but it still seems so so hard!!

H was happy last night but has stopped wanting to sleep before 2am. he slept after that until 7 when he woke for a feed then went back down and is still asleep now!! so he's sleeping well I'd just like him to do it earlier! ! He's slept better last night so hopefully will be more awake today and then sleep tonight.

its dp's birthday next week. we agreed I wouldn't really get him anything as money is tight ish and he's just bought himself a new ipad so I'm not spending anymore money on him haha!! am planning to make his favourite cake for while he's at work on wed but kind of forgot about having an attention needing baby when I made that plan, so we'll see!

MotherOfNations · 09/11/2013 10:09

I'm with you on the sudden need for the loo Jelly. I had this with my last c-section too. No idea what causes it though it seems to be settling down a bit now.

I'm sorry you're having such a difficult time Flyer. I'm exhausted and Eliana is a really placid baby. I suppose being an easy baby is the trade off for the heart condition.

OrangeBlossom2 · 09/11/2013 10:14

Sorry you had such a bad night flyer. Cake for energy. Thomas woke crying loads' sometimes just half an hour rest in between, but every time it was for food so I could fix it. It's the crying I can't stop that really grates on me so I really feel for you. A maternity nurse sounds like it might save your sanity if that's an option for you.

Mil coming over today while Fil watches DH play hockey. Not sure whether to give her the baby while I have a nap, ask her to do housework, or sit and chat while she cuddles him. Should probably do the latter but the other two would be much more useful!

OrangeBlossom2 · 09/11/2013 10:36

Argh they are early. None of us are dressed, I'm in bed with my boobs out...

xuntitledx · 09/11/2013 11:14

Oh no orange - hate that!

roofio87 · 09/11/2013 11:40

H has stopped letting me put him down, but settles as soon as I pick him up. think I'm going to have to invest in a sling! I'm just worried he'll hate it and it'll be a waste!!

BowlFullofJelly · 09/11/2013 11:47

Tut orange, put your boobs away. Definitely go for the nap!

Just managed a solo trip to Tesco with baby in the buggy and ds loose on the pissing rain. Miserable anddepressing way to spend a Saturday morning, but an acomplishment none the less. Now trying to feed emilia and ds needs me to wipe his bum - joy.

moonblues · 09/11/2013 11:58

Flowers flyer sorry you had such a bad night. A friend of mine whose baby had bad reflux swore by her baby hammock and said it transformed her life. I wonder if it would be worth a try. I think there's one reviewed on MN. I'm on my phone, but will try and see if I can link to it.

Tulip2013 · 09/11/2013 12:00

Sorry for not posting much, have really taken heart that I'm not the only one with an inconsolable cluster feeder in the evenings. Last night was the worst so far. Dad is 3 weeks old and literally fed continually from 6.40 to 11.40 then at 1,2, 3.30 and 6. DH had to spoon feed me dinner and get me snacks all evening. Does anyone else get shivery from long evenings of feeds? It's like DD is stealing all my calories!

Roofio I'm also finding my sling a Godsend. Bought it on ebay for £11 (Baby Bjorns are usually £60 or more I think) so it's possible to get a bargain!

Tulip2013 · 09/11/2013 12:00

Oops DD obvs, not Dad!

moonblues · 09/11/2013 12:04

Sorry, should have said link above for flyer!

Shootingstarsandcomets · 09/11/2013 12:06

Just need to vent! Bloody mil! DH is sick. Toddler is sick and just wants cuddles. Mil offered to gave baby b so I gratefully accepted her offer. Took baby b to her told her he needed feeding at 10, just spoke to her and apparently he's been crying but is now asleep. When I asked how much of his bottle he'd had she said she's not given it to him yet!!!? So basically she's just let my poor boy cry himself to sleep. I am so angry and sad. Even when I get help she doesn't listen that will be the last time she gets to look after my boy.

Flyer747 · 09/11/2013 12:21

Thanks moon I did hear that hammocks are a good idea also will have a look.

Shooting that's terrible, I'd be pissed off also. My mil said leave her if she's sleeping she will wake when she's ready to eat, no mil the point is my baby has to be woken ( in the day not at night) otherwise she would go hours without food. I think our generation does things very differently to how they did things and they offer advice or do things the way the did it 30+ years ago.

apperleydapperley · 09/11/2013 12:45

Just managed to catch up with the thread. Sending big hugs and Thanks to all struggling with non-sleeping and reflux, colic etc, especially flyer sorry you seem to be having such a hard time - no extra advice but seem like some good suggestions been given on here.
It makes me realise that T is generally quite good, even though he does do the cluster feeding in the evening and has a bit of reflux which makes him unhappy, but its generally manageable. Going to try gripe water too.

I have to say that DD (my first DC) was actually one of those very rare babies who literally never cried, settled herself to sleep and would be left for hours happily just looking round or sleeping. I'm not saying this to annoy anyone or to be smug, just that those babies do exist and i was very lucky to have one (even though at the time i didn't realise it). And rest assured that the downside was that when DS1 came along, I had such a shock and found it doubly hard because he was a 'normal' baby and cried for hours, had colic, was awake all night etc which i just hadn't experienced before - it was so hard in contrast.

I have also had the numb bladder thing - apparently you get some numbness like the numb skin on the outside after a cs, where the nerves were cut which is why often you can't feel it until v full. Assuming this will disappear as sensation comes back?...

Hope everyone has a good weekend.

roofio87 · 09/11/2013 14:36

so, there's some bits that we need so me and H are currently soaking wet on the bus on our way to mothercare/kiddicare while dp is at home 'working on his music' I think its mostly my stubborness that has resulted in this outcome rather than a) us all going in the car b) H staying at home with dp while I come on bus or c) dp quickly popping out in car. all of which would have been better ideas yes?!?!?

GeorgieJo · 09/11/2013 14:58

Tulip I also feel incredibly cold during night feeds - and I feel like can't eat enough. DH amazed at how much granola and chocolate I am putting away... Definitely the bf but I think also tiredness - need the sugar to stay awake!

Shooting I am so sorry that sound terrible - my MIL a bit like yours. Tried to tell me I should let baby S cry more because "it is good for his lungs"!?!

Does anyone find their babies can smell their milk? S can be peaceful in DH's arms but if he is passed to me immediately begins rooting. Makes it very difficult for me to settle him, and the nights when we are alone neither of us get much sleep as a result.

Anyone else have a similar issue?