December 2013 part 2.

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Just starting a new thread as we're starting to run out of room on the first. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/a1716486-December-2013#38680515

Froubylou, I love you! That made me laugh so much. And yes, I will rub her face in it by bringing buns and cakes in, particularly once I've had the scan and have gone public. In fact, what a perfect way to celebrate and go public at work, with a massive cake orgy! If she upsets me as much as she did yesterday again, the gloves are being taken off. Frankly she's a bit of a porker these days, which I don't normally give a shit about cos what other people eat and weigh is none of my business. But two can play at the old "really obviously appraising someone's weight by looking them up and down and staring at their waist" game. And honestly, she's bulging over her trousers much more than me at this stage and doesn't have the excuse of being pg!

You've really brought out my inner bitch, thanks so much! She'd been cowed into submission but she's back and fucking hell do I ever need her with frenemies like my colleague and my mum!

My scan is 2 weeks tomorrow, it's so long away. But yes, I want to live vicariously through all of you who are going sooner so please do spill as soon as you can!

Corporation tax + baby brain = massive lol. I'm amazed by business is still going tbh. Good job my accountant does all the complicated shit now!

Holly what a complete cow. I can't believe she said that to you. She reminds me of that blonde cheerleading bitch in Glee (yes sadly I watch it but mainly to see that fit guy Rachel was seeing (the dancer not the geek ;-)

Froubylou -lol! If I ever need to stand up to someone I'll ask you for advice. briliant!

I'd probably show and act like I really don't care what she thinks - she's deliberately trying to hurt you/get a reaction to bolster her own self esteem due to a warped enjoyment of putting others down to make herself feel better. Only the most insecure people do that.

Failing that if she really says something else that's awful, I'd confront her saying that I don't know why she's being so nasty but its really getting tiring and I don't appreciate her hurtful comments. If she keeps saying horrible things she deserves to be put in her place as it's pretty much bullying. Failing that report her.

Its hard enough not to feel a bit insecure as our waistlines start expanding and wobbly bits get bigger and wobblier without some bitch saying comments like that.

Good luck on your scans today, those of you having them. SO envious! I'm 10 weeks today- yay! But still waiting for my letter to confirm a scan date...sigh.

Holly she sounds awful! Obviously completely jealous of you.

Well I saw the midwife today, got loads of blood taken and got given loads of stuff to read. She booked me in to see the consultant as I had emergency section with ds, and will need to discuss options. I said i want a vbac and she didn't think that would be a problem. Hopefully the consultant agrees!

Less than 2 weeks til scan day yay! :)

Thanks mumof2 and wee. I'm kicking myself for the way I reacted yesterday, wish I'd been stronger and given less of a shit, or at least acted that way! Because mumof2 you're totally right, she gets a kick of putting people down and she got her own way in that respect yesterday. She is massively insecure, and jealous. It's sad really, people like her think happiness is finite, like a cake. If I have some, there's less left over for you. Which is bollocks. (note to self, stop talking about cakes!)

And you're right again mumof2, it's hard enough to feel ok about expanding, even though we know it's for the best reason in the world, without some swivel eyed bitch like her preying on those insecurities.

I can't report her, it's our company! But yes I'm going to ignore her, eat cakes and pies in front of her and generally not let her get to me. If she does say anything really nasty though I will say something. It is workplace bullying and she should know better.

What's a vbac?

Glad that cheered you up Holly. Being PG can be like 9 months of PMS where you take everyone and everything too seriously lol. I remember when I was PG with DD and spent at least 1 day a month in the park across from work crying and eating subway cookies lol.

Just ignore and when you cant ignore her anymore, buy a cake and stuff your face just to irritate her. Take to leaving SW leaflets on her desk too with the explanation that it came through your letterbox last night and no use to you whatsoever now.

I'm not really that much of a bitch in real life. Well I am but on with feckers who deserve it.

I've so far (in 2 hours) got as far as getting my 'BOX OF HELL' out which contains all the information I need for the return. Then I messed around on PC a bit, put some bleach down the loo, put some stuff in the tumble dryer and had a cheese and chutney sarnie with a bag of Tesco's Finest Salt and Vinegar crisps. Which was lovely.

Now going to have a plastic, fake coffee (I miss proper coffee), feck about some more (might have some more lives through on Candy Crush) and then maybe, just maybe I will make a start on that fecking paperwork lol.

Text from DF (nearly in tears now!)

"Listen to me, You're the sexiest girl in the world and when you do get bigger you'll be even sexier. You're carrying my baby and my comments are what you need. People who insult people are trying to push their negative feelings onto others to make themselves feel better. Bitch queen is the one worrying about her weight, not you".

wow. He's an idiot sometimes but then sometimes he says stuff like that and I realise how lucky I am to have him

You're so right Froubylou, please tell me it gets better. I can't cope with being this emotional and reacting so strongly to everything for another 7 and a bit months! I could have happily killed DF with my bare hands for buying the wrong kind of bacon the other day. I suppose some of the emotions come from being hungry (hangry?!) and tired but not always. Please tell me the fecking hormones settle down!

Aw holly your df sounds lovely :)
Vbac is vaginal birth after cesarean, basically a natural delivery instead if another section. I'd rather avoid one if I can.

Scan all done. Nice professional ultrasound technician. One baby, all the head and arms and legs in the right places. Nuchal fold of 1.4 (I read it off the screen, naughty me).... had the bloods taken for the rest of the combined screening so got to hang on a little longer for those results, but fingers crossed. Does feel more real now as twiglet was kicking away in there.

Hope all the other scans today have gone well. Couple opposite us found out they were having twins, they were in total shock!

Thats brill news lady! I cant wait for mine.
Have I mentioned that? Lol.

Gets worse holly lol. Lovely txt though. Ive just got one. Says 'get berrs in lobe'. Presume that means ' could you possibly nip to the shop and buy a crate of carling lager for me for after work darling? Know you cant partake but I will be quite thirsty and its not as if you are doing anything important today like that feckin return you hate and wont feckin balance and now it has your pc is playing silly buggers and wont print or even open the right file. Thanks darling xx'

Sigh.

Christ, better not tell him that then or he'll do a runner! I'm quite feisty at the best of times!

Ha, that's really funny, I hear you sister! I get really pissed off when he asks me to buy fags for him on my way home cos he can't be bothered to go out to the shop. Or when he smokes (really loudly) when we're on the phone. Or when we stay in on a Saturday night and he gets pissed. Told him in no uncertain terms I wasn't standing for that any more and we're going out and doing non drinking related things from now on on Saturdays. And no the football WON'T be on our telly on Saturday night, he can piss off down the pub if he wants to watch it.

Grumpy much?!!

Congats Lady, fantastic news! You did mention it once or twice Froubylou, I'm super excited about mine too, don't think I've mentioned that before now...

Had my scan today and bubba was jigging around like crazy. Can't believe how much clearer the scan seemed compared to ds 4 years ago. All good. Declined the Down's syndrome test but the lady did say the nuchal fold was well within normal and everything else on baby looked good. I've been put forward a few days to 12 weeks 3 days so edd is now 2nd of dec.
does anyone know where to get a non under wired/maternity bra? I'd need to be measured and I really don't know where to go. Any ideas?

Congrats on the scans Quiet and Lady :)

Quiet - I got a good one from Debenhams - I tried M&S, it was dreadful! Really rude staff who wouldn't help me as you had to ring and pre-book a fitting!!! - made this pregnant woman cry (and I never cry in public I am normally really ballsy...). Debenhams was good.

Can't wait to get a proper bump as opposed to looking fat. Any second time mums out there, when will this be?! I'm 12+5.

P.S. I didn't update after my scan on Monday... it was so lovely! We were nervous after finding out about our missed MC this stage last time, but there was baby, all parts correct, nuchal fold of 1.4. too Quiet - same as you.

First the little one looked asleep and I asked the sonographer (sp?) if this was normal, and she said it was and that baby was doing an excellent job of posing :) But then a bit later baby woke up and that was the best bit - as the legs and arms are clearer - turned it's back on us at one point! The whole time the lovely sonogropher was taking multiple pictures and told us to stuff them in a bag quickly as we only paid for 1... then, best bit: she played the heart beat - loud and clear, 155bpm. It was the best Monday ever .

too many 'bests' in that post...

Wow, congrats guys. It sounds like an amazing experience, I can't wait! 2 weeks, 1 day and 20 minutes to go...

You could always measure yourself at home then go in and try a few bras on. Bravissimo are bloody marvellous, worth the money. And to be fair I've always found M&S to be ok but I suppose that could be very variable. I tried an underwired bra on the other day, it looked bloody awful! Not going there yet.

Anyone else finding it impossible to concentrate at work?! I'm working in central London on what happened yesterday evening and even so I still can't concentrate!

Over 50 days until my next scan... that feels like ages! But 2 weeks will go quickly :)

Congrats to you Vocalista86 and QuietNinjaTardis, lovely to hear updates of scans going well

I'm booked in for a private scan on Saturday when I'll be between nine and ten weeks so fingers (and everything else) crossed it all goes ok. All going well we're off to Nando's and then to see mmmmm, Benedict Cumberbatch Star Trek after the scan.

Hi All! So good to hear of so many great scans! Congrats to all! x

We had our scan the other day, I have been put forward to 4th Dec (bean is a few days further forward than I thought!). Saw all the bits in all the right places (although was disappointingly blurry), heartbeat 164, NT 1.2mm. Had bloods done so was able to get risks for Downs etc and all were in the thousands which I was thrilled about (but still can't understand how if you get a risk of say 1/6000 how ONE person in that 6000 will still birth a child with Downs? I mean if the scan looks at NT, which is low, and nasal bone, which is present, and the blood results (HCG and Pappa-a which certain ratios of are indicative of chromosomal conditions), well if all that is "normal" as such how can one person still potentially have a baby with a chromosomal condition that somehow evaded all those indicators? not expecting anyone to explain I just don't understand it.

Holly1977 I read with this face about your very rude colleague and there is simply no other explanation than she is extremely jealous of you. Nobody says things like that unless there is something not right with that person. You should feel sorry for her that she is so unhappy with herself she has to give remarks like that out. Don't take it to heart. I wouldn't even give her the satisfaction of going back to it, but if she says something again, have something ready shut up b*tch springs to mind like "I'm just really looking forward to having a gorgeous little newborn, I know it was a long time ago for you but you must remember bits of it, it's all so amazing, and everyone is so excited for me". This will burst her bubble more than letting her know you she has got to you with her snidy comments. .

Thanks guys. I will try debenhams as not heard good things about m and s. don't think there's a bravissimo near me and I thought they were for the larger norkage?

Littlebells - it's to do with statistics, much like birth control with a 99.9% efficacy say. That is if you've a 1/60000 chance then you're extremely unlikely to produce a Down's child, this does not mean that they can completely rule out the possibility of you having a Down's child. Statistics are a bit misleading to be honest - you can get them to "prove" or "substantiate" just about any claim if you're clever enough with the numbers. For instance birth control with a 99.9% efficacy means that less than 1 woman in 100 will fall pregnant in a year of use, lengthen that to 10 years of use and suddenly at least one woman in 100 will fall pregnant. Does that make sense? I'm normally quite good at this sort of explainy doodaddery, but then I did just find socks I'd meant to put in the washing machine in the bath, and I shut the dog in a cupboard for over an hour today...

Just came back from scan, it was lovely, little bean had a clear heartbeat and was wriggling around but as I suspected wasn't anywhere near 12 weeks! (due to irregular cycles) Estimated at just 10+4, so have another scan in 2 weeks for more accurate dating. Can't wait!

Took home a scan pic for £3. Baby really does look like an alien at the mo! :-)

Glad bean was dancing for you too violet. We had an alien photo of ds which was weird. The photos today aren't that great, bit blurry. At least seeing bubba on the screen was clear as day.

Lovely to read about all your scans glad all was well
With them.
Only 5 more sleeps till mine....

So lovely to hear about everyone's dancing babies in these scans! I definitely remember the alien-ness when we had the 12wk scan with DD; the 20wk scan looked a lot more human if I remember correctly!

I got my letter confirming scan date which is 17 June - that's aaaages away! Based on date of last period I will be more than 13wks by then and I really think it's going to be obvious to work (based on how I look now, at just shy of 10wks), but I don't want to tell them until I've had the scan.

What do you reckon my chances will be to get it brought forward by a week?

I have my booking in appointment on Saturday morning so was going to ask the midwife then.

Still utterly pooped - thought it was getting better but have had a crazy week with work and I am totally knacked again. Didn't help that DD fell down the stairs last night (she's OK, thank goodness but has a massive egg shaped bruise on her forehead) and ended up sleeping very fitfully with me, which means I pretty much got no sleep at all. I am just desperate for a solid 8hrs and cannot remember when I might have got that last!