Shagged Out Viroids 6th Thread! From Early Days to Ready To Pop - Proof that JSing really does work!

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Hello and welcome to another shiny fred for Just Shagging graduates!

The last fred was nice and busy so fingers crossed we get lots more members

We've just moved over from the Shagged Out Viroids Volume 5 thread, where we finally found out that a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!
The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

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There is also a Just Mumming thread for grads of the grads thread

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I'm on

Me tooooo!

I'm in the group too

How exciting. I often think people look TOTALLY different to how I imagined they would look.

I was meant to be going to a knit and natter group at church tonight but we've had such a busy day, plus I only got home about 30 mins ago after driving home from my mum's which is a decent motorway drive away. I think I might get in the bath and watch One Born on my Kindle instead.

Tired I have a few reasons for wanting a HB. Firstly I suppose there is something lovely about being at home and having the baby there. Afterwards I'll be in my own environment and I will be able to please myself, sleep in my own bed, get in the bath etc. Plus DCs will be able to see us without trekking to the hospital and DH won't need to leave (which made him really sad last time). When I was in hospital with DD I got no sleep - not because of DD but because of all the other babies on the ward. At home I'll be able to get comfy and feed in peace and watch tv whilst I'm up in the middle of the night

The other issues are things that put me off hospital births - increased risk of intervention being my main concern. I am not against intervention, but having experienced a not-so-pleasant routine induction (with DS) for no other reason than 'it's procedure' I dislike that in hospital care is often, IMO, based on the needs of the organisation rather than the individual patient. At home I would be able to have 1:1 (or 2:1) midwifery care, whereas this is often not possible in hospital. When I had DS I wasn't checked on once, because they told me I wasn't in labour, I just had an irritated uterus. It was only when I BEGGED someone to check me so I knew whether I could have any pain relief that they discovered I was 8cm dilated!

BUT I don't actually dislike hospitals per se and have received some great non-obstetric care at both my local hospitals. Plus this labour/delivery will be VBAC so there is an added risk factor of uterine rupture. That being said the risk is very small (of uterine rupture in the first place, and serious uterine rupture is even rarer still) and so I don't want to make a decision solely based on that.

I just can't decide what to do. The Cons. the other day said he would do everything he could to allow me to have an active birth in hospital and be able to go home ASAP - but having done a few hospital stays, ASAP often means an entire day by the time they've done discharge papers etc. I might do what Gary said and plan a HB but transfer to hospital if problems arose (obviously) or decide to go to hospital if I change my mind closer to the time.

Of course this could all be academic I have polyhydramnios again as I will likely need an ELCS in that case. Fx is doesn't happen again. I have an extra scan at the beginning of Feb. to check my amniotic fluid index so I should know a bit more then...not measuring massive for dates at this point so hopefully all will be ok.

Sorry for super long post bet you wished you'd never asked

p.s. glad you're sticking round Tired

Glad I asked I find it all so interesting, people's motives, preferences etc. I'm lucky and have had three good hospital experiences. All active with gas and air and pools available. I think since the first was positive experience that made me want the same again. So I can see that where your first was less positive (sounds like they really weren't checking in you or supportive) that that has informed your preferences. DH also hated leaving me the first time. Second time I had the quick discharge I think 3hours after as sadly it was DH grand ads funeral so he took me home and went to that, so no over night. Now for you to think about, this time he felt that it was really nice how it turned out tat he went home to the boys. They had his full attention, all slept in bed together. He thinks it was nice for them to have a little bit of time together. Just how things happened not part of any plan but nice in its own way. I think maybe make a plan for home birth and and then have a back up plan in place too.

Wow...I go to aquanatal and it goes mental on here and Facebook :-)

If you get a chance to go to aquanatal, go, I love it. Might try pilates next week too, if I can be arsed to go to Crosby.

Interesting about birth choices. I think I'll stick to hospital for my first...bit scared :-/

Hmm, I want to join in this discussion about birth but I've just got in from London and I'm bloomin knackered so I'm going to have a quick stalk look around on Facebook and then watch the rest of the footy :)

My MW appt is tomorrow at 9:30 followed by my whooping cough jab so I'm going to try to have a proper chat with her about home birth and how it works around here.

MrsBri - I've always read your name as Mrs Bree but I now suspect the Bri bit actually rhymes with 'why'?!

Right, really going to watch the footy now, then bed.

You suspect right, Wing :-)

I'd have had MrsB, but it was already taken and didn't want to use my surname, so my hubby's did just as well!

Hi all - I have to avoid logging in here or else too much time goes by and I don't get anything else done - and I am meant to be completing my planning tonight to hand in tomorrow!

Fabulous to hear your birth story teddy - I know exactly what you mean about the quick birth so we are curious to see what happens with ours as this will be number 3 too. The consultant has always said that we could go to term this time but it could be so quick that it will arrive on the kitchen floor.

Interesting to read about home vs hospital. We are going to be heading to the hospital. I guess we could opt to stay home if we were to keep this one in the over until at least 37 weeks but after more hormone tests today that seems less likely so we are just waiting to see what happens.

I have my GTT on Friday morning - seem to be at the hospital more and more these days; I have two more appointments there next week too!

Can I join the FB group too please? I will send a friend request to something - my initials are N S and my profile pic is my DDs standing in the middle of a model of the island.

Hope everyone else is well.

Im desperate for a water birth! Hoping to see the consultant after my next scan instead of the incapable registra i saw last time!

I wouldn't mind a water birth - we have 3 pools at the unit here so possibly a chance of one being available. Have never managed to write a plan yet alone plan for what sort of birth to have!

Have heard good things about water births, good friend of mine in London couldn't praise it more. Not sure how widespread it is here in Melbourne. Think this being my first I will be having it in hospital too.

Had my booking in appointment today and it went well. Happy with hospital and midwife was really nice too.

Hope everyone has a lovely day. Hope to see you all in FB group soon!

Ill need to fight for mine but in reality i would just be happy with a vaginal birth

Afternoon all!

Well my MW appt this morning was really rushed so I didn't get to talk about home births, which was a bit disappointing. She said I can discuss it next time with the main MW but that's not for another 6 weeks and I'd much rather make my decision earlier than that as apparently they arrange to bring the homebirth kit round etc at 35/36 weeks. DH and I need need longer than that to go through everything and decide :(

I may make another appt before 34 weeks just to discuss birth options. This time round I really don't like the 'hands off' approach and I thought I'd see the same one or two MWs the whole way through because we aren't in busy, busy London but I think so far I've seen different MWs each time.

Doesn't fill me with confidence really...

Anyway, everything else was fine. BP okay (didn't hear what it was), bump measuring spot on at 27.5cms (I'm 28.5 weeks today), baby's heartbeat really strong and she's 'presenting' which I think, from what the MW was saying, meant she's not back-to-back and is head down so that's good.

Am glad the rest of your appointment went well but its unfair you didnt get to talk it through your options.

Apart from asking do i want a vbac or an elcs my birth hasnt been talked about at all

My MW does not mention even the idea of a birth. I think we are all pretending that if we say nothing about it then it is not going to happen until the proper time!

I have my GTT in the morning - heavy snow is predicted but I am hoping it will be fine in the morning so that DD1's school is open. Schools can close mid-morning as far as I am concerned as I should be done by about 11am and can then have the rest of the day at home with DDs.

I have another dental appointment tomorrow evening at 7.20pm so snow would mean I could cancel that although it is only for a filling replacement. I have had my referral form through with a pre-assessment appointment which is just another appointment to add to the long list for this month. I will have to take time off in the middle of the morning and expect them to tell me that they cannot do the root work until after the baby arrives.

It's a shame you haven't been able to discuss your birth options Wing. Hopefully you'll be able to get another appt in before your next scheduled one. otherwise you could ring the supervisor of midwives and she'll come to your house to discuss options with you. Have you looked at any HB stuff online? There's quite a bit of info available. Does your hospital run a homebirth info session? Ours does but is not fantastically publicised so it might be worth investigating?

Sounds like you have a lot on Dysgu. In the early stages of my pregnancy I had to have some root canal work done. My dentist took the nerve & pulp out and cleaned all the canals. She then put a temporary dressing in it and says she will do the rest after baby is born as she would prefer to hold off on an x-ray, despite the fact that you would need about 500 dental x-rays to even make a tiny impact on your body! Hope you manage to get everything you need to done and get some leisurely time too.

DH and I went out for a lovely meal tonight. We had a 50% food voucher for a fairly posh restaurant and it was delicious. It didn't look like it was going to happen at one point because about 40 mins before we were due to leave our whole area had a power cut. Luckily the babysitter (a good friend of mine) said she didn't mind sitting in a cold, dark house and was happy to stay

I think she was looking forward to time away from her 9 month old...we left her snuggled up in a blanket on our sofa, with her laptop and a ! actually I can totally see the appeal and it sounds rather nice

Thankfully we have power now so the central heating is back on.

Think I might take DCs to school on the sledges tomorrow because I'm a big kid and want a go

Thanks all.

I'm going to try to make an earlier appt with the lead MW. Guinea I have looked online but I want to know exactly how it works in my area as for all I know, they may have slashed their HB team recently for cost-cutting and practically it's not an option (although noone's said that to me). I just want someone so come round and talk to me and DH really about it.

I don't think the hospital runs a HB session. The MW I saw yesterday didn't mention that and she knows I'm going to my first antenatal class this afternoon (argh! ) so I might bring it up then with whoever the MW is leading it.

Oh a completely different point, I saw this thread Dysgu and thought it was about you!!

Oh and it's quite amusing as I see all your news popping up on my FB but I can't remember who is who as yet (i.e. which MN names = FB names) so it's very confusing!

Wing Cwtch is a funny word - it means (sort of) a hug but my mum has always used it to mean when you hug a small child to your chest in the countryside so that they can do a wee! So when I ask my children, whilst walking in the forest and noticing they are doing a wiggly walk, if they need a cwtch it means something different ...

I saw that thread and thought of you too dysgu in fact what does dysgu mean???

YY tired what does it mean?! I'm thinking something to do with teaching - 'Teacher'?

I've just got off the phone to a lady in the maternity 'Parentcraft' team about HBs. I left a message earlier asking for more info on HBs and she's going to send out the leaflet they have on it and also speak to the community midwives to see who my allocated MW is (on the front of my green notes is 'D Hamill' but checking my notes, that's the MW I saw yesterday and she said she's definitely not my allocated MW so goodness knows!) and will get back to me.

She was really helpful, although at one point she said 'well 34 weeks is still 6 weeks until your EDD' and I pointed out that as they normally bring the delivery packs round at 35-36 weeks, it wouldn't give me much time at all to discuss with DH and decide what we want to do.

So I feel I've got the ball rolling somewhat anyway...

Leaving soon for my first ANC which is at 2:30-4. Argh!

dysgu means 'learning' in Welsh. So yes, is related to teacher/teaching

Snowing here!

Shuffled a corner round in the living room today to have the moses basket in, its all getting real now! 5/6 weeks till there is a squidgy snuffly newborn in there

Snowing here too. If it continues we should be able to take DCs sledging tomorrow.
Been to Homebase this afternoon to get paint tester pots and look at 'feature' wallpaper for the chimney breast in the living room. Typically my favourite is a Habitat one which seems to be much more expensive than any others. We should only need two rolls but not sure I can justify £50 for only a bit of wall.

Not sure whether I'm going to do ANC this time. What made you decide to do them Wing (given that it's second time round for you?)