graduates of the wine-and-shagging-after-mc thread come hither!

[wilderumpus]

Seeing as practically all of us have now got pg, here is a new home for all of us to come to carry on chatting after getting the BFP after our mcs. Today we are pregnant! :)

ps I had a dream about my baby last night! a teeny little boy, a super fast labour and I had forgotton about how to look after a newborn so was trying to feed him carrot [hhmm] eek! and we lived in the woods. of course.

Boo, yay for a clear couple of days, is the tw over?

Sheldon sorry to hear about the carpel tunnel. Yay for the moses basket. How did you come by it in the end, new or borrowed?

Ice, a foot! Amazing. Can you explain to a novice how you could tell it was a foot?

Boo and Wild glad you two are feeling better!

Wild, I'm also enjoying soup. I'm hungry so often that soup has become a sort of midday snack though rather than a meal in itself! Hope your friends' visit goes well. You are all being brave, lovely people.

It's coooooold but sunny here, for the first time in ages. I asked OH what his plans were for the weekend, stupid question, like I was asking after a friends whereabouts, and I paid for it! He said he planned on going cycling today as it was sunny, and I felt all sidelined by his plans especially as our whole 2nd week off was, for me, spent being neasueated, and for him doing lots of stuff away from me. We're quite independent of each other but spent regular time together too. But anyway, he said that tomorrow is supposed to be not so nice so he thought he would spend it at home. It's an old "joke" between us that I get the bad weather days of his time. So I ended up totally and explicitly guilt tripping him into spending some time with me today out. And he's a nice guy so he was duly guilt tripped. I then said we should take our opportunitites to spend time alone together indicating my belly and he said that getting pregnant had been my decision. This whole conversation was last night and I woke up this morning feeling like an idiot for the way I behaved and tried to backtrack. I got up to make us tea and discovered that he'd cleaned the whole kitchen after I'd gone to bed and decided that it was in fact perfect weather for our day out and bad weather for cycling (windy). I hope I don't become some moody manipulative cow [hsad], we hardly ever argue!

Wild love your dream.

(sorry for my moany post everyone!)

sounds a bit hormonal to me one?! try not to ovethink it and just have a nice day together, tho if it is hormonal you will definitely overthink it.

being pg has meant that sometimes I am a bit crackers and am really clingy to DH but also quite offish and tetchy. is really weird and not like me at all! hopefully your spat is a bit like that, in your own way?

is lovely and sunny here too but after my lunch I have been struck down by the Tiredness. i actually refused to make DH a cup of tea because I couldn't stand up or even actually sit at the dinner table any more and had to go and lie down! Dh tried to get me to nap but I have decided to write some more work instead. THEN if my brain calms down I might chill out :)

also one when I was pg with DS one time I was watching x factor and lying down, and I could see and feel his outline as he was lying too. He had his head head down, which I could feel, then a gap for his neck, then could feel his whole back, two elbows stuck out at the side (owch!) and his feet were stuck under my ribs :) I spent the whole time just stroking his back and bum :) Honestly, is really, really mad until it happens to you!

"and I could see and feel his outline as he was lying too", etc., wow! That sounds amazing, I hope to have that experience! And thanks Wild, I probably was just being hormonal. With my periods I always knew they were coming up and could be mindful or potentially hormon fuelled antics but this is ongoing!

In the end the weather turned so we just nipped into a farm shop and came home. I just put a farm shop chicken in the oven to roast and now that the smell is wafting out I no longer fancy it, and OH is a vegetarian so I will have my fill of this thing! I've totally gone off most veg and am living on tuna sandwhiches and potato based things, cereal and bananas. Really hope to widen my food repetoire soon. I was reading last night that what we eat now influences what they are happy to eat later, at least I can't stomach sweet things so much nowadays!

Hope everyone's having a lovely Saturday!

one I ate loads of sweet stuff and DS has his daddy's lack of sweet tooth!

Arf I made a comment on how someone shouldn't worry about BFing while pg on my AN thread and someone who decided to wean their baby before 6 months and stop giving any milk after that has gone off on one at me. FFS.

I am so sad today, our friends who mc'ed have decided not to visit. I know i shouldn't take it personally but for some reason I just do feel guilty - like I took their baby! feel dead sad, I wish they could come and I could cook a roast for them and we could just chill. boo.

Wild! You did not take their baby!!!!! It's so sad you can't all come together through this but it's not uncommon is it. I had a friend who was trying for a lot longer than I was and when I became pg (previously) she disappeared for a while, in fact up until the mc, and then she was horribly awkward about that too. I missed her and tried to offer things that might help but she had to come around in her own time. It can be so hard. Hopefully your friends will come around soon, get their own pregnancy soon. In the meantime please don't beat yourself up, they are sad about things in their own lives, not yours... unless, are they saying anything to make you feel you don't deserve your baby?

Ooh, and you're having bad luck on that other thread too. I hope you can find some peace tonight.

aw one. I feel better now. I have thought about it all day and realised that I am glad actually that they are good enough friends to be able to say they aren't coming up and not coming out of politeness... and I am reassured that obviously they are doing what they think they need to to heal, even if that means awkwardness for a bit. That is very important. and I have realised that however much I want to help I am the last person in the world they want to see right now, this isn't my fault it just is. They will, as you say, come around when they are ready.

am a bit worried about my baby actually. Have had a teeny bit of spotting (brown so know shouldn't worry) and a few sharp twinges in the baby area over the past three days and am now starting to get edgy. Scan not until a week on thurs... sure everything is ok... but... !

the lady apologised on the other thread. Phew. i don't know why she thought I was addressing her I absolutely was not!

Hey wild just quickly posting here (am up waaaay too late, at my mums & been chatting). Anyway, I felt for you on the AN thread - she was way oversensitive!!!! All the bf chat had totally hijacked the thread too. I've given up posting, might go back post scan if alls well. Anyway, I thought u handled it all v well! Hope all well with you and one! Right, off to bed! X

Wow, that was a much busier weekend than I planned. I think my nesting instinct kicked in as we spent lots of time cleaning and got the baby's room all sorted. Most of the junk is now cleared out and the painting is done. The curtains are also up and the moses basket is in there. It looks lovely :)
Sorry to hear your friends decided not to visit wilde. I agree with you that they must be good friends if that feel they can make that decision and not turn up anyway and be uncomfortable. I'm sure they will be able to visit in time and they are lucky to have you as such an understanding friend. Sorry about the spotting too, so annoying isn't it. Not long until your scan now. I looked at your AN thread (and felt a bit nosy doing it). It was a very strange reaction on her part I thought.
How was the roast in the end one? I feel for you with the food - I spent ages making a chicken pie on Saturday and then could hardly eat any of it. Luckily DH ate my share too (hes so skinny, I have no idea how he manages to eat so much).
boo You have carpal tunnel too, it's rubbish isn't it. I've done that not recognising my own arm in the night thing too, very strange.
chuckle Are you ok? Haven't heard from you in a while.
Right, I must remember to call the hospital about my splints today.

yeah that thread ishoo was looking nasty for a bit there. Is because some people feel so uncomfortable about the choices they have made re: parenting and if anyone suggests anything different they get defensive and blame you for attacking their choices. is bollocks and what I hate most about parenting, this horrid in-fighting. do what you want and be satisfied it was a good choice!

anyways. Yes boo the thread is still a bit shouty and me, me, me, I wonder when it will settle down and people will start supporting each other more. I have noticed that if someone has good news everyone leaps on it but if anyone needs support they completely ignore the post. I think it is too big tbh. However, with PhD work I need as many distractions as possible so still butt in but this is my proper AN home :)

glad you getting stuff sorted sheldon, must be sooooo exciting Don't overdo it mind! I didn't sort out anything cot wise etc for DS until I was 36 weeks!

how are you feelng today boo? I am still ok! I think I can say the nausea has now mostly gone and generally I am a lot more active than a couple of weeks ago. still knackered after lunch, feel utterly drained all aft but nothing at all like weeks 6-9 I would say. I could definitely make a cup of tea (if I wanted one, which I never do now)

how you doing one?

Why? Why do I have to work?????

Wild glad to hear you've got to a better place about your friend. Hope she comes around soon. How's the spotting?

I've been worried today as had weird sensations that were vaguely reminiscent of times past... but I'm also suffering with trapped wind so it's pretty difficult to feel anything properly now. Wait and see, wait and see. I'm only 9 weeks today.

I did go and have a look at your thread just now Wild. It was nice that one or two of the others acted as brokers of the peace, clearly it was an over reaction.

My thread is all shouty and me me me (I like that as a description!) and I've taken to posting only if someone's had some sad news (because you're right, it can so easily be over looked) or with random stuff now and then just to keep my foot in the door, but I haven't actually had any interaction yet. It's a massive group of people so maybe I'll only get a sense for what others at my stage of pg are experiencing, and that's still cool.

Sheldonella the roast became chicken soup, in the first instance, and I'm not sure what I'm going to do next. I thought about a chicken pie, what a shame you couldn't have yours! I've never made one. Do you have a good recipe?

How wonderful to get the baby room all sorted out, it must be so sweet to see!

I'm now off to dinner now, I've made a shepherds pie. I'm glad to be into food again! Hope you all have a lovely evening!

what's up with work one? you ok?

oooh chicken pie. I would love that if someone else made it :) recipe please!

My friend asked yesterday how it went with my mc friends so I had to say they didn't come up etc and she said maybe there are on shag week. I have realised that if they mc'ed about 2/3 weeks ago they could actually be ov'ing around now and not wanting to stay because they have to shag every night. This made me feel much better even if it is bollocks!

I had a meeting with my Supervisor this morning which sent me into a spin of worry and am only just coming down from all the stress. Was nuts not being able to tell my Sup I was pregnant as I definitely feel he should know, but am (again) not completely convinced myself so will keep it to myself until the 12 week scan (next week!). I think all the secrecy just about did me in because on the way home I went to the drs just to walk in and arrange a flu jab so I could say 'I'm pg' to the receptionist! I just had to say it blurt it out loud! I cannot keep secrets (mine, I am so ridiculously open. am brill at keeping other people's tho!)

am going to have a bath and Calm Down!

UG indigestion and acid reflux after me lunch. I hope this is a good sign I am still pg but man it is comfortable. can't believe I have it already, it was definitely my worst symptom with DS but didn't kick in until much later... eek!

Ok, chicken pie (very roughly as I just made it up as I went along):
Fry 1 chopped onion until soft and then add chopped up raw chicken (unless you are using leftover cooked chicken).
Once chicken is looking cooked add whatever else you fancy (I added mushrooms and cooked ham cubes). Also salt + pepper.
After a couple of minutes, sprinkle a teaspoon or two of plain flour and stir until everything is coated and frying.
Pour in about half a cup of chicken stock and bubble it until nice and thick like pie filling. Stir in cooked chicken if using.
Chuck it all in a pie dish, roll out pastry and put on top. I just used ready made pastry but sometimes make my own.
Brush pastry with beaten egg, make a couple of holes and bake at about 200 for half an hour or until it looks nicely golden on top.

I take no responsibility if it is crap

wilde Could definitely be shag week, didn't think of that. I have the indigestion too, don't like it one bit. Last night I had to have gaviscon after my dinner but I find the taste almost worse than the indigestion. Ooh, I must book flu jab too.
one I keep thinking the same about work. Just have to remind ourselves that we get to take some time out soon :)

I've been having massive kicks all morning, I'm wondering if DD has hiccups! I keep having to stop myself from ordering more things. I'm determined not to buy anything big until right at the end - the moses basket was because we had a voucher so it only cost us £10 really. I've almost finished knitting my little cardigan now and think I'm going to do a blanket next. I'm loving knitting.

Oh yes - I also sprinkled some dried thyme in the pie.

ok. stupid question but where do I get cooked ham cubes?! sounds delicious sheldon I shall make it this weekend :)

am loving your kicks :) hurrah! i remember my friends putting their hand on my bump to feel DSs hiccups :) ooh, I like gaviscon tablets, peppermint ones. have yet to get to the stage where I am waking in the night and swigging from the bottle! I hope I do!! and you made a cardy! awww!

oh I got into a clinic for my jab on saturday - the last one of this season apparently?! so you might need to hotfoot it if you want to get it in time (have no idea why is considered over now).

I am shattered! proper zonked. can't wait to do my two mile round trip to the childminder's in a bit poor DS isn't really getting the best of me at the mo, am either being all dosy and pg or working my tail off for uni. I hope I am a better mum soon!

Cooked ham cubes - I had a small tin of ham that I used (but there was too much of it). Could also use bacon actually which might be nicer - just fry in with the chicken. Switching the onion for a leek is good too.
Tablets - I've got some somewhere, I'll fish them out and try them again. The bottle I have is the original one and tastes awful. Argh, yes, will ring this afternoon about flu jab.
Aww I'm sure you are being a great mum. I don't know how anyone manages the first trimester while already looking after kids, and you are doing your PhD too - amazing!
I'm researching slings again now. Everytime I think I've found one I like the look of, I see another one I like

i love slings! if you want any help just ask!

thanks for ham advice and the reassurance sheldon :) i felt dreadful earlier, so very tired but then came back with DS and ate a massive sandwich and a bowl of granola and some chocolates (!) and feel much, much better now. Phew, I thought it was a return of the tired awfulness of a couple of weeks ago! NOoooooooo! (hope you not suffering too badly one)

arf you guys go to actual work - and with ms - I don't understand how you do that. I just sit at home unless I absolutely have to go out :)

Work is crap, lots of restructuring and redundancies, no communication, staff quiet paranoid and self protective. But actually it's been crap for the last 5 years since the previous poorly organised restructure. We've been put into new team structures and I'm with a bunch of new people and although I was dreading it there are some really lovely people so I'm grateful for that, but the systems in this new structure are either absent or don't meet the need. Staff and the recipients of our service are complaining constantly. There has been some awful bullying, etc., so simply being at work can be anxiety provoking even if nothing's going on, iyswim, there's just a tension. And to be honest I've been biding my time staying full time for the mat leave pay, then I will return part time and the negativity of the place will have less of an impact on my far too sensitive soul. I won't say what I do because it would be shocking to hear that it exsits in a system so impoverished and unhealthy as this. (work moan complete)

Mmmm, will make the chicken pie tomorrow, I have issues with pork so will stick with the mushrooms, maybe add carrots and leeks as I have those in abundance at the moment. The stock/filling is where I lack real confidence so this will be a new leap for me to make! Mmm thyme! Thanks Sheldonella!

You're knitting Sheldonella! I was wondering about taking that up but couldn't think what I would... duh. I could use a hobby and that sounds like a good one. I might look back into it. Is it hard to learn?

Wild that's a useful theory about your friends, and also probably nice for you to have them mind as trying rather than "just" mc, I remember how much it meant to me for us to be able to start trying again. Uff, a two mile roundtrip walk. I'm jealous, I haven't moved for the last 5 weeks, but also would find it intimidating to have to do. It will keep you healthy until you move! And I echo Sheldonella, good lord, your are pg and doing a PhD on a deadline! This is for a short space of time, I bet you're doing a great job!

Sheldonella, I was thinking about slings yesterday. I saw a woman on the bus with a new born and a toddler. She had a two seater stroller and the new born was crying out but she didn't want to lift her as she was having to stand and I was reminded about the usefulness of a sling at times like that. I'll be curious to know how you evaluate them!

I have my booking in appt tomorrow. Wish me luck. I have unresolved issues with the whole system but the mw is nice and I must be nice back and not attack her for the systems inability to be more linked up.

Anf after complaining about my AN thread they were really good about someone's misfortune yesterday and also more interactive . If you can't say anything nice... ([hwink])

one you don't work for a council do you?! Sounds very similar to my frustrating public sector experiences (back when I used to work ). sorry is so difficult for you at the mo, I can see how that must be really dispiriting to work in.

good luck for your booking in tomorow. I hope it goes better than you hope! and glad your AN thread are being veer naice :) [hwink]

Cream! You need a spoon of that or creme fraiche stirred into the thickened filling at the end too. Forgot that :)

one sorry to hear about the work stresses, it doesn't sound fun. Does anyone know abotu you yet? I sort of feel like I'm not taken so seriously now but I think they are just trying to keep the pressure off me which is nice I suppose. I plan to do the part time thing too. Knitting was easy to pick up with the help of a beginners book and YouTube videos. Good luck tomorrow!

Oh yes, slings. I have read that a wrap type is better for my shape so I have been looking at these. I would like one that is easy to put on by myself and I can carry baby upright or use for breast feeding. I also want to be able to use it in the house so I can get on with things.

Right, off to make chilli.

stretchy moby wrap! :) easy to do up once you know how, lots of instruction on youtube :)

told DH about my pie plans, he is very pleased! thanks sheldon!

Cream! OK, all set for a quick visit to the corner shop for cream in the morning and then it's pie for lunch! (Chilli, ok that's next, and someone on my AN thread mentioned toad in the hole which OH has agreed to make next!)

Thanks Wild re tomorrow. I'm sure it will be fine, but as I feel symptomless atm I'm being generally a bit ho hum about the whole thing!

It is public sector. I have told some people at work and I also mentioned the mc in case it happens again as my new professional lead and manager are new to me and I didn't want them to think I'm a flake with all my random emotions!

I might have a look at a starter kit re knitting! And will google slings by body shape!

'Night everyone!

Yikes, I hope your pies go well
Moby wrap - will be trying to get a proper look at one of those. Shops ought to have dolls to practice with!
Well I managed to hurt myself knitting last night. Anyone heard of a more stupid injury?
Good luck today one!

sheldon I have to chuckle at your knitting injury... what did you do?! A crap at knitting, I am not goog at all the counting! I love crochet though. re: sliings you could look up a sling library or sling meet in your area then they will help 'ee and you get to meet new mommas too. I haven't been to one, my friend was a sling person so helped me lots.

good luck today one! such a milestone :) Your symptoms might be calming down a bit now, aren't you in week nine? That's when mine and boo's started to chill out a bit.

hmm... i love public sector and will always work in it (when I go back to work!) but arf the shite management always hurts and I have worked for a few different councils/depts!

how long and how hot shall I cook my pie for please sheldon?!

I am insanely tired today, feel peaky but hungry, hormonal and like I just need to lie down. a lot. I am so grateful I have to work today and am not running around after DS. Pg hormones mean am waking a lot in the night too and tossing and turning. DH sloped off the to spare room last night cause I was being so annoying! Is all for a good cause though and am sure will be right as rain tomorrow :) 12 week scan a week tomorrow eek!

oh I have 'popped' as well! At night time when I lie down I can feel my baby's house now. hope the baby in it is ok!

boo how are you and when is your 12 week scan? must be veer soon?

waves to chuckle and ice