November 2012 - into the third trimester

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Valium the customer service thing at asda sounds stupid! argh!

I am eating ice cream. It isn't making me feel any better :(

VQ I'd of been way more stroppy, and quite probably tearful too, so you aren't alone!

On pee pots, I get a new one. From reception. When I arrive. 1 minute before my appointment. And I have to do a wee on command. In 1 minute. I am getting faster

I could just get a pot from work. But I ALWAYS forget.

I hate hate hate my fucking neighbours. I really really do. The driveway on one side is completed, so now the same guy is doing the drive on the other side. So I've been sandwiched between 2 new bastard driveways doesn't help mine looks like shit in comparison now and the noise and fucking mess for 6 weeks now. It is enough to make anyone lose the plot. Anyone who works nights, or wishes to have any kind of sleep after 8am anyway.

I tried a bath to calm my frazzled nerves. It didn't help. The bastard neighbours on one side complained the extractor fan is too noisy. So it is off. We now have to have the window open at all times. So all I heard as I tried to read my book in the bath was that dickhead talking away about some shite to the neighbour, followed by bang, Bang, BANG of the slabs being knocked out

I think I got out the bath madder than when I got in!

Oh, and to add insult to injury. He (the guy doing the work) is parked over my drive. Again. Blocking me in. Going to post a picture on the facebook page to show you all just how unnecessary this is. And that reminds me, he banged on the door not once, but 3 times during the course of the other neighbours drive to tell DP to move his car because they were having stuff delivered. Really. There is absolutely no need.

I think I have reached the height of pregnant hormones now. Surely??! To be fair, this would have got right on my leaking tits, pregnant or not! I had to restrain myself on friday from dragging my dressing gown on and screaming out the door like a common fish wife at the noise he was making (not just banging but the noise from him yakking and radio blaring!)

Is it too much to ask for for some peace and quiet? Its the school holidays. The opportunity for lovely lie ins on my day off is dwindling, and I'd like not only to be able to sleep when I'm on nights, but the odd lie in too. It ain't happening. Both neighbours know I work 2 weeks out of 4 nights too by the way...

RARRRRGHHHHHHH! Sorry

No need to apologise detective I remember doing nights when I had moved into a new house. A brand new house. The 4th to be built on a massive estate. Lots of noise!! Duh!

Argh detective that sounds like a nightmare. When he moves his car could you leave yours across the end of your drive just to stop him parking there and your drive empty? very childish but so satisfying we have a drive and parking in our street is a nightmare because no one can park properly so on occasion me and DP have completely accidentally park two cars in the street taking up shit loads of space while our drive is lovely and empty not childish at all

First day back at work today after being off for two weeks (boo) and its my first anniversary (yay) . I don't think I'm being a very productive employee, I'll do better tomorrow. I'm just on countdown for maternity leave, I finish 22nd October, so two months, with three weeks of that being handover.

I think the cat thing mostly is the sleeping on the new babies face but I'm sure those that have cats know about that all already and are taking precautions.

I'm in the bad sleep camp. I have to get up about 3 or 4 times to use the toilet and my most comfortable position is on my back, even though I try to sleep on the left I always seem to end up on my back. I'm tossing turning for the whole night. I've tried special pillows and the aren't working for me.

Also the negative advice thing, I don't know your friends and I don't know what the conversations you have been having, but I do remember for me personally that I was in complete shock about how 24/7 having a newborn baby was, I was quite young at 25 and had quite a selfish life and having to give up doing what I wanted to do when I wanted to do it was really quite overwhelming, but having ds is the best thing I have ever done and its taught me so much about who I am as a person. I had a chat with dh about how hard it is, but to manage expectations rather than to scare him. I feel as as I've done it once before I kind of know what to expect, but I also realise that this is a different baby and a different me so who knows what it will be like. Everyone's experience is different so your friends should give you the positives and the negatives.

I'm yet to work out how I can easily manage 12 hours+ without a wee both day and night, yet if I sleep, even if it is for just 10 minutes, when I wake I immediately need to wee.

I don't wake to wee, but when I do wake, I do need to wee. If that makes sense.

Eg. Nap on sofa, wake up, need wee. Sleep for 12 hours solid (rare at the minute, but not unheard of when bastard neighbours aren't around!) and don't wake for a wee but need wee on waking.

My body confuses me at times!

I?m not denying it?s going to be hard work thechick but some people seem to only talk about the negatives. Like others have said if it was that bad then people would never have more than one child but most do.

detective That sounds awful. I can?t stand thoughtless people. My neighbour?s dad used to park his car directly behind mine every time he visited and blocked me in. A few times it nearly made me late as I was meant to be somewhere and he took bloody ages to come and move it out the way. I wouldn?t mind if parking was tight around here but there is a road right behind our car park which is always empty as everyone has driveways. A few words were said and he hasn?t done it since (fingers crossed).

On the topic of leg cramps I've been recommended tonic water as apparently the quinine can help. I've also been trying to drink more overall in a desperate attempt to stop them. They got so bad on holiday that I was tearing muscle.

I started packing my hospital bag and the change bag today. I had piles of stuff set aside and it made sense to tidy and organise it. I know it's crazy early but I hadn't touched any of it for a fortnight. Even allowing for the holiday, time is going incredibly quickly!

That's very true apple. Its not cool to focus on the negatives only, especially to a first time mum.

Been reading up on cats sucking the breath out of babies, and using their magic to kill infants. This was actually a verdict at a coroners court in the 1700s. It is thought that this myth stems from SIDS and people wanting a 'cause' or something to blame for the death of an otherwise healthy infant. It is common sense to not allow a cat to sleep with an infant, but baby is much more at risk from Mummy, Daddy, a sibling, a cot bumper, a pillow or a mattress. There have sadly been many cases of parents accidentally smothering their baby whilst asleep.

I still don't like cats though

I know I?ll have my work cut out with a lively puppy and newborn but I?m sure it will be an amazing experience bar the lack of sleep! My mum said she thinks we?ll be good parents but that will be our biggest struggle. Although I?ve been getting hardly any sleep for the last couple of weeks anyway so it?s good preparation I suppose. Well that?s what I?m telling myself

My old cat (now in the sky) was not interested in my babies one bit and my current dog is an absoloute Daddys boy so that helps. Had midwife this morning and baby is head down eeek...I know it could turn again but its made me so excited to be approaching the end.

I have decided that next time I get pregnant, I am going to be 5 stone lighter, and 10 years younger .

Can't decide if it is age or weight that is giving me the more common pregnancy complaints this time around.

With DS there was the hyperemesis of course, but the rest of pregnancy was as smooth as a babys bum. This time I have the leg cramps, heartburn, achy bump, tiredness, swollen body parts, etc. etc.

I reckon age has a lot to do with it!

I forgot to mention the other day, my student did an antenatal check for me at work (she is about to qualify and needs some extra checks for her numbers to actually qualify!) and we came to the conclusion that this baby is transverse. I suspect it is flipping between being head/bum down to transverse pretty regularly. I can now palpate a little easier now its a tad bigger. It also explains where I feel movements most - on both sides of my hip bones, at the same time. Or alternatively the top of the bump on both sides. Its probably spinning around lol! Still no rib kicks here! I hope this isn't a sign of things to come. My plans are screwed otherwise! I hadn't considered the possibility of it being anything other than head or bum down! Anyway, it doesn't matter at this stage. Plenty of time for turning the right way!

She also measured the bump, and I'm 26cm at 29 weeks. I'm wondering why this baby is smaller. It wasn't small at the 12 week scan, as I was put a few days ahead of my dates. At 16 weeks it tallied up to the 12 week scan dates, but by 20 weeks it was measuring smaller, and has done ever since! DS was 8lb5. Guess I should expect a smaller one this time!

Everyone is commenting on how small I look now. I do have a bump, but it isn't all that obvious probably because I was already fat so I feel a fraud sometimes! Might do a bump shot later. When I get dressed

detective could you speak with your MW about your worries about your baby being small for your dates? Maybe speak to a MW you didn't see before? Might be best to get it checked out?

The first six weeks with a newborn are a bit of a trainwreck but the truth is there comes a point almost when the clouds clear and you think "I am actually doing ok". Also you wouldn't trade those first weeks for anything and after that when the cries become distinguishable and feeding is comfortable and easier its great. Managing expectations is a good thing but so is knowing that it gets better and better.

Took DS2 to a party this morning and going to see Brave with the boys and DH this afternoon. Homemade pizza when we get home yum!

thedetective I think age is definitely a factor for me with the aches and pains I've been having. I'm 38 now, was 25 when I had my first, I found it easy first time round. Not so easy this time.

I am guessing you have a lot of sympathy for me then at my age

I have had every pregnancy symptom possible and I'm only 25. Am I just unlucky?

Homemade pizza sounds nice brockle. I may copy you!

I'll be 39 when the baby comes (hopefully) my birthday is 7th November, baby due 18th.

I was 19 when preg with ds and didn't have any probs, I'm 22 now and feel like its tougher. But then I do have a toddler to look after, I think the joints/ ligaments/ pelvis gets weaker with each child you carry.
I'm not having anymore after this one!

You're only as old as you feel!!!

Work is mainly breakdowns, and snotty emails from people who shouldn't be sticking their nose in.

Detective, sounds awful :( I've no idea really about measurements, other than when they do actually bother to draw on the graph it's on the lines. I guess being in the job you know what to expect.

I have no real expectations of mother hood other than it'll be hard work but I'll learn. I think the biggest shock to me will be not working. I've worked and still am working a good 50 hours a week for the last 8 years. I think I'm at risk of feeling isolated and housebound but I also think I'll sort myself out!!

apple different people, different pregnancies, I think I was really lucky, rather than you being unlucky iyswim. I had nothing first time round. It was easy!! I don't think that's the norm. This pregnancy is the complete opposite, I feel like I live at the MAU, if its not my fibroids, its my 5+ braxton hicks an hour, every hour for a couple of hours, or the baby not moving. It's always something. But I am enjoying my pregnancy, is that odd??

Meh, I'm 32 now and every bit as grumpy as I was with my first at 18. I think the problem is that actually I carry very well, with naught but the general aches and pains one would expect. Having nothing to complain about makes me pretty grumpy as I really do not enjoy being pregnant very much.

Brockle I was measured at 25 weeks, and 22cm, at 28 weeks I wasn't measured (or BP done but that is another rant!). You don't need to be measured, it isn't a 'requirement' as such, especially under 32-34 weeks. But it can be useful. I think the fact that I know this baby feels small rather than measuring small is what is bothering me.

I've measured and palpated enough women to know that the measurements sometimes don't add up, but the baby feels the right size. This baby has always felt smaller.

I feel more reassured at the fact that the baby is growing at a steady rate, even if it is smaller.

I've got my 31 week appt in 10 days, so will see then. In the mean time, I keep telling the nameless child to grow a little more! I haven't got many clothes in smaller sizes lol! It needs to be at least 8lb!

I have heard some people talk about the estimated weight at birth. Where do they get this info from? Is it because they have had extra growth scans?

Detective - eat more?!