We're BROOKING NO ARGUMENT for easy and blooming pregnancies and pain free sneeze births (part 9)

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Here we go again.......

Hooray for boring pregnancies cake! Lovely to hear the hb.

scarlet happy due date for tomorrow. Biscuits had no warning, you never know- and isn't that the most annoying part.

I'm crying at everything today. Three hours broken sleep a night on top of being anaemic and bf two is taking its toll. I'm no fun at all!

dream - I doubt anyone's expecting you to be cracking your best one liners and going out partying quite yet

Eek on the visitors scream! It might be better to be upfront now about what you want rather than later. I certainly wouldn't recommend enduring unwanted visits in the first few days - utterly rubbish.

Oh Dream it sounds so tough for you right now! Did you see the GP today? Did you get anything to help with the boys' reflux? I'm really No Brooking hard that you'll come out the other side of this difficult first bit ASAP. You're doing such a fantastic job, and soon it'll start to get easier!

Pomme you're so right about enduring visits! Especially the Friday, I'm expecting the super rock hard painful boobs and crazy Day 3 hormones on Friday - not something I want to go through with an audience! It's hard to be upfront though when my Mum's been so supportive all through this pg and she's hugely excited about her first grandchild. I did say to her (when she mentioned my Dad's annual leave) that really we were only thinking of sort of 20 minute visits on the first or second day. She immediately sounded very put out and sort of said "well we'll see how it goes" which wasn't really the response I was hoping for!

Just popping in to say congrats Jaggy!

Hope all the immenent brookers are doing well?

18 weeks here, been lurking rather than posting as been a fairly crappy week so far.

Love to you all, and hope everybody is doing ok.

thanks munx!

DS2 currently doing a marathon feeding frenzy, i think we've been at least 3 hours with only the odd few minutes where he wasn't squeaking for more. glad he's keen i guess!

hope your week improves. :)

Aww Jaggy sounds like he has the hang of it!

I am sur things will start looking up here, they normally do

scream at our hospital visitors were restricted to visiting hours only. Your other family members couldn't stay all day. FX same for you!

Hi, Odd question, when have people started buying maternity bras? How did you figure out sizes and did you need more than one during your pregnancy? I like the idea that I'm finally going to need bigger bras just not sure about the sorting of lol.

Oh, and its official, I can't cope with crying babies... We are going to have a hard few months!! Ben is so refluxy already he arches and wriths and cries a lot of the evening and there's nothing I can do to calm him. Dh and i take it in turns to hold each baby, as Seb not settled either but not as bad as Ben, but there's no break from cranky babies. They were prescribed gaviscon today, but typically I didnt have cooled boiled water or ebm ready tonight, so got some water in fridge now but neither had the gaviscon yet. The gp had a 10 week old and really seemed to think they were just windy but dh and I have watched them really closely tonight and they're refluxing milk up, gulping it back down, hacking, gagging and are generally not just windy so I'm glad they got a script. I'm really struggling with the unhappy babies side though.... I remember being equally miserable when DD was like this, but it didn't start so early :-( Tears all round tonight (except dh!)

cakes, I only needed one lot when pg, I only went up one cup size in pg and one more when bf, though I may be up two this time. I bought at about 15 weeks last time when my bras got a bit tight. I may not be the norm though, I'm not a big boobed person- a B pre babies, C when pg, D when bf last time (though currently wearing an E actually-lucky to have some hand me downs in assorted sizes from a friend)

Dream family members are "restricted" to visiting hours at my hospital too, but that's 3pm to 8pm! I'm really worried that my family are actually planning to turn up at 3 and leave at 8 every day! I was hoping they would just pop in for twenty mins in the eve on Wed and Thurs, after work/school. There's no way I want to have to stay awake all afternoon when I'll be up all night, plus it'll hugely interfere with bfing. I esp don't want visitors on Day 3 as well!

I really hope the reflux will be temporary for the twins! They're still learning bfing, and their digestive systems are still maturing. Fingers crossed they won't suffer like this for months, they could grow out of it much much sooner. Poor you and poor them though! (After all the heartburn of the last few weeks I have HUGE sympathy for their pain!) It's great that you got the prescription! I hope that creates an instant improvement for you all.

Cakes I waited until the end of the first tri (when my boobs finally stopped being sore!) to buy new bras. I only bought two and they weren't specifically maternity bras, just new bras fitted to my new size. That worked really well for me until a few weeks ago when my bump got so big that my new bras are now really tight around my rib cage. I can still wear them though, and I'm planning to wait until after my milk comes in before buying any more new bras - nursing ones this time. I've bought one nursing bra in advance, simply so I have something to wear home from hospital. I went up two sizes in the first tri, so I've bought a nursing bra that's two sizes bigger than I am right now - just as a guess. I don't know if any of that helps you, I hope it does, it's just what I ended up doing.

Scream were you planning on including your parents in the 2 week ban on visitors?

I understand the appeal but in reality I think that might be quite difficult if you are usually close to your parents. I wouldn't have any problem saying to friends and other relatives that we would like time home alone before having visits (although I didn't, I was desperate to show off DS) but I'd feel bad saying that to our parents or siblings. I was in hospital for 3 days after having DS, both sets of our parents came every day but only for an hour each. I think our siblings visited once each. Once we were home we were pretty much left alone for the first week, apart from parents, but they didn't stay for long visits. After that I was itching to show DS off so was happy to see people for arranged visits. We only had a couple of DH's relatives who descended on us without an invite, which backfired on them as I spent the whole time upstairs with DS BFing.

Could you come to some sort of compromise with your Mum? Perhaps say that it's not necessary for anyone to take time off work. It's unlikely that with your first baby and having had a CS you'll be home before Friday night anyway. You could say that you're happy to see them every day in hospital but would prefer it if they came only for an hour each time?

As for them visiting you at home, if you really don't want to see them for 2 weeks I'm not sure how you can invoke that without upsetting them. If you feel really strongly about it you'll just have to say it.

Cakes do you feel like you need new bras? Get measured when and if you feel uncomfortable. I was measured when pg with DS at about 12 weeks, bought some new ones then and stayed in them throughout the whole pregnancy. I've not even bothered getting measured this time, I'm wearing the same ones from when pg with DS and they've been fine. I'm one of the unlucky ones, my boobs have barely got any bigger each time I've been pg. If you do need new ones you will need more than one. Get as many as you would if you were buying normal ones.

dream it sounds so hard. I can't even imagine how exhausted you must feel.

New thread needed Brookers, any takers?

Scream, the visitor situation sounds a bit awkward! Not sure what we'll do about it yet - haven't really thought about it - but I'm quite happy to have visitors around a lot (which has to be the case when I have mine + two sets of DH's parents (his are divorced) to cope with!). I'd be completely straight with them though, I think it's the only way..! As harsh as it sounds..

Cakes, I was also similarly lucky/unlucky in the same veins as scarlet and Dream - my boobs only went up one cup size during pregnancy, and luckily I already had some bras in that size. Definitely needed more than one though, so I'd definitely buy more than the one! Now those ones are getting a bit tight I'm going to invest in some nursing ones (seen as the time is near!) - will get measured up and buy a couple with some room to expand. Dream, I'm similar to you in the boob department - Bs usually, have gone up to a C... so I suspect Ds will be the way to go.

Scarlet, brooking you get some action soon!

Very pleased that I seem to have gained the ability to nap! Before I always felt rubbish if I slept in the day, but after doing so today I feel a lot better. Definitely the way forward!

Ooh, quick question... driving while heavily pregnant- I'm guessing it's perfectly possible? I don't drive very often, and just after we complete it looks like the piano movers are coming round and I might have to drive between houses to accompany them (think DH might be working). Will potentially be 38 weeks. I'm guessing that you have no problems Scarlet after your road rage? (I often get wound up by other drivers, so don't blame you, esp while so full of mad hormones!). The drive between houses would only be 5 minutes, I'm sure it's fine.. I'm just going into panic mode .

Thanks for the tips Scarlet. The two week ban has already been communicated and accepted, which I why I was so surprised to find out today that they think things will be so different while I'm still in hospital! I'm including most of my immediate family in the 2 week ban, with the exception of possibly calling on my Mum if we desperately need assistance with something. My main goal is to avoid lovely and enthusiastic people like my baby sis, who will want to stay for hours and do nothing but hold the baby! I kind of feel like after 9 months of hell I've earned at least 9 days of holding my baby without having to share!

I have a a similar feeling about them coming actually on Wed eve itself. I'll have just gone through my first ever major surgery and my baby will only be a couple of hours old, all I want to do is lie around with DH and have skin-to-skin. I dread the idea of my family descending and enthusiastically passing my baby around when I haven't even held her myself for an hour yet!

I need to have a frank discussion with my Mum when she's round tomorrow. I doubt I can stop them coming on Wed, but they have to understand that the visit really can't be more than 30 minutes, and same again on Thurs. No visits on Fri (Day 3! Plus hopefully discharge day.) I don't think I'll be dying to show off my baby, more than anything I think that after this exhausting pregnancy I'll just want it to be DH, LO, and I left to our own devices to get to know each other.

Oooooo new thread time! Who wants to do the honours? Scarlet did this one and I think I did the one before, but we're going to be heading off shortly so maybe Wants or Musical might be next in line?

Just saw your post Musical. I have to say I have such short little legs that I have to pull the seat really close to the wheel in order to drive our car. I haven't tried driving since Jan (for obvious reasons) but I'm pretty certain that at this point I wouldn't be able to reach the pedals by the time I'd set the seat far back enough to get my massive bump in! That could just be a combination of my car and my little legs though! Perhaps most preggos don't have this problem.

If it's only a five minute drive though I would have thought that you could get a taxi instead, if you had to, and get your DH to bring the car round later in the eve?

Just a quickie on the driving thing musical - like Scream I have short legs so sit close to the wheel and both times have had a very big bump and have driven right up to the end, in fact both times I've been driving a few hours before going into labour. Granted there was less than an inch between bump and steering wheel.....

Thanks for the advice on bras. Pre pg I was a 34A. I measured myself yesterday and as far as I can tell from the online charts I now measure 36B at 16w. My bra feels uncomfortable around my ribs and the straps keep falling down which I know from experience means I've changed size. Hopefully i'll only change again for nursing now.
One of websites said it was normal to go up one size round ribs and one cup size.

Should really get ready for work. Hope everyone has a good day!!

cakes I went from 34A to 36B while pg to 34D when bf. I got some good bras from john Lewis when pg which were t shirt bras with soft underwires which weren't too hideous and actually found mothercare's nursing bras best for me. Can give you links if required

I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread here

cakes I had to get a new bra at 9weeks (!) I had gone up 2 cup sizes to a 32F (!!!) The growth seems to have slowed down now thank goodness.

I stuck with underwire bras and I hate having a saggy boob look but went to rigby and peller where they measure you properly, I think its just badly fitting underwire that is bad news. I also got a soft underwire bra from pretty pregnant which is really comfortable, hopefully they will last a few months!!

dream that sounds really miserable, you poor thing, is your DD coping with it all?