We will BROOK NO ARGUMENT on having serene, pain free, uncomplicated pregnancies and sneeze births! Vol 8

[ScreamIfYouWantToGoFaster]

Hello ladies! I can't wait to see how many No Brooking babies arrive during the course of this thread!! Do you realise we have now filled SEVEN threads (and that's just the graduates!) That's 7000 posts and counting!

Let's all get settled in for some serious No Brooking, we have a lot of painless sneeze births to get through over the next couple of weeks!

Awww you ladies are so sweet with all your No Brooking for my appt! It is much appreciated. I'm also convinced it helped!

In the end having to walk from the car through the hospital to the antenatal clinic, and then the 90 min wait on hard hospital chairs for my delayed appt just about killed my hips. The Dr wanted to start the appt with a quick exam so I had to climb on and then off the table, which hurt so much that when our actual discussion started I was primarily focused on not crying rather than what I wanted to say. My indep mw then totally stepped up and really engaged with the Dr, explaining how much discussion and research we'd already done and how we had come to the conclusion that a cs was my best option. She was an absolute star and I couldn't have done it without her. After a few mins to collect myself I was able to fully participate in the discussion, and the Dr was very thorough in raising all the risks of this choice, but ultimately she was supportive of my situation. She said that normally I should be referred to get a second opinion to see if I change my mind but she could see that I had thought it through carefully and coming in for appts is difficult for me so she waived the second appt. She agreed in principle that I should be able to have a cs at 39 weeks, on the proviso that my 36 week scan confirms that the fibroids have moved above where the cs incision would need to be. So the date will be set at the 36 week appt.

I'm so relieved! All I need to do now is keep this LO snug as a bug until the 36 week scan and then I'll get my date. The Dr asked if I would want a trial of labour if contractions started before 39 weeks, and I said no (because all of my issues would still apply). She said that if I did go into labour before the cs but from 37 weeks onward she agreed that it would be worth just going straight to cs. Yay! So I'm hoping to get her to write that into my notes at 36 weeks.

So I'm really happy with the outcome! More evidence of the power of No Brooking of course! This is just the first good appt this week, I'm confident we'll have good outcomes from all No Brooker appts this week! Dream's post sums it up perfectly!

Scarlet I have heard that second babies tend to engage later than first babies, so I'm sure your LO will be wriggling into place in no time!

Biscuits well done with little Ethan!! So glad he's doing well!

Popcorn pickled cabbage sounds like an interesting craving!! I've had pickled onions before (yum) but I've never heard of pickled cabbage! Is it similar?

Yay for Cakes having a mw appt set as well!

Yay scream! That sounds like it went as well as it possibly could, what a star of a midwife!

Yes a bit like pickled onions but not nearly as strong/vinegary :)

Isn't pickled cabbage saukraut? however you spell it

I haven't had any cravings :(

Yay for Scream no problem getting you to 36 weeks with no further problems. We have the power!

Could be, jen

my tastebuds seem to change during pregnancy and i can't taste things as well as i would, so i lose my appetite a bit and struggle to enjoy food. But i love pickled cabbage (has to be the red one though in the big jars from tesco, other ones just aren't as nice/crunchy!) and salt and vinegar crisps, and haribo tangfastics - i think it's because they are extreme flavours so i can actually still taste them!

yay for scream re CS.

would try and do a longer post, but got major discomfort, have a horrid feeling that spd is on its way, had it in first pregnancy, was hoping i might not get it this time, or this early, but really not feeling too good so going to lie down and see if i can get comfy.

See scream? Told you it'd be fine. Practically a date :-)

I am beginning to feel abit guilty that I have got to 31 weeks with no major issues ( apart from trapped nerve for short time!) when I see you guys especially scream with your daily battles with pain and HCPs. Well done for staying so positive.
Off to have a bath now and then I have a couple of scones to tuck into while watching tv:)

Scream hope you can relax now! So pleased for you. :)

I was a bit emotional reading how you had missed me I have been hormonal like crazy and been very attached to MY baby lol
Feeding is going better, although wind is an issue as he won't sleep flat as it is uncomfortable and he needs winding a lot.

Just a quickie as going to have a sleep, since I expect to be awake all night again!

Yay for Scream's sensible and supportive Consultant. That's fantastic news! A few tears usually help! What a weight off your mind that must be. So, 39 weeks...when's that for you? You'll probably get in ahead of me now, I'm due April 20th.

Thanks for all the instructions to mini-scarlet, I hope he/she is paying attention. I've been on my ball lots this afternoon, but it's difficult when there's a 3 year old trying to launch himself on it at the same time shouting "My turn now!" You're correct dream I will be 35 weeks on Friday so there is time for turning

Well done to Biscuits and DS2 for the fantastic BFing that is going on. 5% loss is marvellous. I had the BF advisor from the hospital call me today as my MW had told her about my previous experience. She very kindly offered to see me before the birth to discuss what happened and to offer reassurance for this time. I declined to meet her before the birth as I see no point in re-hashing and moaning about it all again, but have requested that she can make herself available for me after the birth to help me try and get things right this time. Strangely it was the same woman I had a conversation with after my 20 week scan while waiting to see the doctor, but she claimed not to remember. So I'm a little peturbed as during that meeting she wrote the whole sorry tale down and made promises that it wouldn't be the case this time. Yet there now seems to be no record of that Anyway, we will see.

Loopy I'm with you on wanting strong flavours. I can't get enough of sour stuff, I was sucking lemons the other day.

Oooh and my MW reckons the baby's heartbeat sounds like a boy something to do with a stream train rather than a galloping horse? Anyone know what she's on about?

Good luck to fishcake and Popcorn tomorrow. Meant to say Popcorn I loved that Amazon review link you put on that other thread the other day, I was in bits reading it.

Old wives tales scarlet, when I was in for monitoring my boys heartbeats are so different!!! Ones 125, ones 150!!

Okay, let's see if I can remember everything. First baby brain story from me: I went into the kitchen this afternoon and couldn't remember where the glasses live. I was standing in my own kitchen opening cupboards trying to find a glass!

Scream, no such thing as TMI between Brookers! I didn't have a wound drain and I have dissolvable stitches. Don't know the rationale behind the consultant choosing one kind over another - she did say she sometimes uses staples and they work equally well. I only had 2 Fragmin injections - one the day of the section and one on Saturday evening. I didn't get one before leaving on Sunday and no one mentioned it again. They did ask me each day if I had had any cramps/pains in my calves, and I hadn't, so perhaps that's why. I did not have constipation; I had diarrhoea instead. I had the aforementioned wind, decided the problem might be poo-related and went to try to poo on Sunday afternoon, and sure enough after a bit of straining the floodgates opened, as it were . However, this is something that might be specific to me - Dad has Crohn's disease and a large number of things set me off with diarrhoea. There was a big poster on the door of the toilet in the hospital giving advice to post-natal women worried about pooing - it made me laugh. Had things like 'lean forward, hold a wad of tissue or a sanitary towel against your vagina and push by expanding your tummy'. (Not sure that's quite right, but it was the gist of it!)

Fishcake, the feeding seems to be going ok, touch wood. My boobs are getting bigger and bigger today - much squarer than they were when I woke up. Bean has been feeding well without much fussing and then falling asleep for huge chunks of time - 3 or 4 hours at a go! I am awestruck and both DH and I are starting to worry that this means something is wrong with her. She doesn't seem ill, though, apart from being a bit yellow with jaundice. We'll see how tonight/tomorrow go. This may be the calm before the storm!

Biscuits, glad to hear that Ethan did so well weight-wise! Maia gets weighed tomorrow and will be getting her heel-prick too. I may cry when this happens . Did Ethan have his today?

Yay for Scream and Consultant C! That's brilliant news. Will start Brooking that the fibroids move up nice and high.

Purple, has Little Boy Blue got a name yet? Hope you're feeling better today. I have also been super-emotional but it is hard to separate hormones from memory today. The lovely community MW told me today that she had the equivalent scar to a CS one from having her ovaries removed at the age of 13, and I nearly burst into tears on the spot. I didn't know what to say - all I could think was oh God, imagine being told at the age of 13 that you were never going to have children, and then going on to become a MW (I assume) because you love babies so much. I did wonder why she had never had any kids of her own - you do wonder with MWs and I bet she gets asked a lot.

The other thing I meant to say was that I feel much better physically 4 days post-partum this time than I did the first time. Then, I had a long latent labour phase, 15 hours active labour but with epidural, then a 25 minute pushing phase, no tears or anything, so I suppose that would be classed as an easy birth, and I was crippled with SPD afterwards, every movement was painful and no one took me seriously when I said it hurt (despite the MWs being lovely in every other way). Now, my stitches don't hurt - they are much better today than they were on Sunday, and they didn't really hurt on Sunday! We went for a 20 minute walk and the wound pulled a little tiny bit but it really is minimal. I am so much more mobile than I was last week, it is unreal. I think pregnancy was so much harder this time that this part feels like a breeze in comparison.

Scarlet - I think I've heard that thing about the train vs the horse thing being a girl or a boy, but I am pretty sure DS1 sounded like a train, and DS2 like a horse (or vice versa - I'm tired and can't really remember ). Hope your time on the ball works - DS1 was the same if I tried to sit on my ball. Sometimes we were both allowed on it when we were pretending it was a boat...

Ooops, end of feed - post more later

Right, back again

Too, I'm so glad you are feeling so well - that's such good news. We did indeed have the heel prick test yesterday and it really wasn't too bad. The mw person arrived literally as I was just about to go and feed, so it would be fair to say E was a bit irritable at having to be stripped off etc to be weighed and then having the heel prick done, but even then he really didn't seem that bothered by it - ma'am little cry and that was that. Good luck with it all though and for Maia's weigh in.

I meant to ask actually - you know you posted about Maia feeding for a bit and then crying? Did you ever resolve the issue or work out what it was? Hope there was some kindly bf type person to help?

At the moment in terms of feeding intervals, we're trying not to leave more than about 3 hours in order to flush out the jaundice, but I tend to find that E will either demand a feed after 2 hours or be totally sound asleep still when we're trying to feed him after 3 hours so I suspect he would last 3-4 hours on those occasions?

Can I ask (what I hope is) a really silly newborn question? Do all the other newbies need a bit of settling to go to sleep or do they just drop off easily? E will sometimes seem to go off to sleep pretty easily but then other times (and especially at around our bedtime), even if he looks like he's fallen asleep when feeding, he's really hard to settle when we try to put him down. Is that typical? It seems odd to me because DS1 had such bad jaundice he just seemed to sleep all the time, and always had to be woken for feeds and go straight back to sleep after them at this early stage. I can remember having to settle him when he was a few weeks older though? I'm not sure as well if perhaps I can't really remember what happened with DS1 as it was such a long time ago!

Ma'am little cry? What a weird autocorrect! one little cry!

biscuits - sometimes Abbie is easy to settle and sometimes not! She already likes feeding to sleep...

She is now 8lbs 7oz which is great so feeding going okay. I think my let down is really strong though and it chokes her then she bobs on and off a bit then gets wind so feeding taking longer. I've read to express first but that sounds like a hassle and also I don't get let down until she feeds on me. Anyone else had this ever?

morning, glad to hear everyone is doing well.
Well done with your appt scream brilliant news. You must be so chuffed.

Well I was horrendously sick on Monday night (plus a bit of the other too) and yesterday I felt so tired and out of it poor dp had to come home at lunchtime to look after ds as I could barely stay awake. I have managed 2 pieces of toast since monday night. Feeling much better today and off to make some breakfast shortly but have taken today off work to try and build up appetite a bit. Thankfully ds is at nursery today so aprt from some pottering about cleaning and tidying (tis a bit of a pit) I shall rest up as much as possible. Looks like you've got me on and off all day today then!

Glad to hear all babies and new mums are doing well, hope all the bf niggles sort themselves out shortly. Off to make a and some toast I think....

:o scarlett it's genius, isn't it?

Ooo Loppy I love haribo tangfastics too!

Really chuffed everyone's doing so well, it's lovely to hear about :)

can't say I've ever had pickled cabbage, what do you have it with??

I can't remember if I said well done to Scream for the good appt news yesterday . Roll on the 36 week scan when those fibroids will be well out of the way! When is your 36 week scan?

Hope you're feeling better soon too Ninja

Now what appts have we go today? Far's 6 week scan, Pop's mw appt? Anything else today?

oo yes - good work scream. That's great news, independent midwife sounds great too. Brooking for those pesky fibroids moving now.

Brooking for far too - let us know! I think Aubers must have had her baby by now yes. Wonders if she ever lurks on us?

Ninja I've had it in a salad, or with chips or I bet it's nice with ham and baked potato?

Morning! Lots of No Brooking here for Fishcake and Popcorn! Can't wait to hear the good outcomes!

Ninja poor you! It sounds like you've really been through the wringer since Monday. I'm glad your DH has been so supportive, and also glad you're feeling a bit better today. Lots of get well ASAP vibes heading your way!!

Biscuits I hope little E soon gets the hang of sleeping without needing settling in the evenings. He sounds like a model baby so far, so I'm sure he'll have it nailed in no time! How are you doing sleepwise? A 3 hour feeding schedule sounds tough!

I hope all the new again Mamas are still enjoying their newborn snuggles! I can't wait! I feel like a huge weight has been lifted following my appt yday! I've also ordered a c section hypnotherapy cd to help me relax and prepare over the next few weeks, altho truthfully I already feel calmer just having an agreement in place with the hospital and reading all of Too's incredibly encouraging posts!

That is great news scream- consultant c sounds far more sensible!

And great news on abby's weight gain and e's minimal loss! Maia will of course follow suit today.

So who is with me in the waiting room today? far? and popcorn? And I have a horrible feeling I've forgotten someone, sorry

Oh ninja hope you feel better soon, that sounds miserable. Take it easy today.