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We will have a calm and worry-free pregnancy with lots of jumping beans and bouncing babies and will BROOK NO ARGUMENT on that (Part 7)

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TooImmatureTurtleDoves · 10/02/2012 17:39

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jenfraggle · 29/02/2012 14:19

Yes, very needlephobic. 2 panic attacks and lots of retching but nothing in my stomach so not actually sick.

I start some temping work tomorrow so need to get sorted for that. They emailed a number of forms that I need to print out, sign and email back to them but our printer is out of ink. I emailed them to DH yesterday to print off in work but he missed 1... He's taken today off to take me to hospital so trying to sort out the last form

Biscuitsandtea · 29/02/2012 14:19

I've been getting back ache too Scarlet - I'm thinking it's just the weight of the bump and having to be more active with DS etc? But did you say your DS was back to back - that would have given you a backachey labour I would guess?

How's the building work going?

Biscuitsandtea · 29/02/2012 14:21

Aww Jen - hope you can rest a bit this afternoon and get over it. Hopefully no more needles for a while?

PopcornMouseInBoots · 29/02/2012 14:37

A friend wants to come and stay with us for a night, but her DD has just been diagnosed with whooping cough and is on antibiotics....... that's not a good thing to combine with a pregnant woman, is it? Confused

PopcornMouseInBoots · 29/02/2012 14:38

(I suppose I'm asking you to say "avoid!" and thereby make me feel less guilty about the porkie pieing I'm going to have to do to put her off :( )

PopcornMouseInBoots · 29/02/2012 14:41

And what's a GTT jen ? That sounds pretty horrific Shock

scarletfingernail · 29/02/2012 14:44

You did really well then jen to get through that first time. You'd have had to have gone back and gone through it again if you'd actually been sick. Not very pleasant.

Yes I was thinking that about the backache too Biscuits. We've had another day off from builders today, but it's all systems go again tomorrow. We're probably about half way through and I'm feeling really stressed out with it to be completely honest. Potty training is dragging on and on also. I dared to send DS to playgroup in pants today for the first time and he was still wearing the same pants and trousers when I collected him. I'm so pleased, but for some reason he just isn't interested in doing it at home. He likes doing it there because he sees all his little friends going to the toilet. What to do????

Biscuitsandtea · 29/02/2012 14:47

Scarlet - could you try a sticker chart or something? We did 5 stickers = a few chocolate buttons or whatever for DS and that seemed to help a bit.

Also, I was worried if we started a chart that he'd still be wanting chocolate buttons for weeing when he was 15 or something, but he novelty sort of wore off eventually and the sticker chart just kind of disappeared...... Also I think Christmas appeared so treats were not in short supply!

Biscuitsandtea · 29/02/2012 14:49

Popcorn - GTT = Glucose Tolerance Test = test for Gestational Diabetes.

Basically when I had mine I had to fast from I think it was 10pm in the evening, rock up at the hospital next morning. Then they take bloods, give you a sugary solution thing to drink, leave you for 2 hours and then take more bloods to see how well you've dealt with the glucose. But you can feel pretty ropey dealing with all that sugar on a totally empty stomach. And all that is of course far worse if you're needlephobic Confused.

scarletfingernail · 29/02/2012 14:50

Eeek about the Whooping Cough Popcorn. That's quite rare and really hard to diagnose once they're over 6 months old, are they completely sure about the diagnosis? FWIW a friend's DD was diagnosed with it before Christmas, but then it turned out it's easy to get the diagnosis wrong and it was a virus. I'm not sure what risk it poses if you're pregnant, perhaps you could ring your GP and check? Best to err on the side of caution IMO and avoid until she's better. I wouldn't dream of taking my DS to stay with anyone, pregnant or not, if he'd been diagnosed with Whooping Cough. It makes them so poorly.

scarletfingernail · 29/02/2012 14:51

Great idea thanks Biscuits I shall get creative this afternoon Smile

PopcornMouseInBoots · 29/02/2012 15:08

I'm not sure scarlet but apparently she's been coughing for about 6 weeks so I think they've ruled out everything else? Confused
DH had it a few years ago and he was so incredibly ill with it, and it lasted for absolutely ages too - I'm going to try and put them off (obv it should be said she doesn't know I'm upduffed so she's not quite as insensitive as she sounds :o though she does know we're ttc)

That sounds horrible Biscuits - is that a normal preggo test, should I be anticipating one of those? Shock

Biscuitsandtea · 29/02/2012 15:19

It's not a routine test for GTT Popcorn, unless they have reason to suspect it. I think if diabetes runs in your family they might ask for it (?) or I had to have it because the baby was measuring big for dates (it wasn't GD though, it's just a whopper of a baby!). Or if you'd had GD in any previous pregnancies etc.

To be honest, I didn't find it all that bad, but I'm not scared of needles or anything. You just have to rest for the 2 hours and it can be a bit 'bleh' but I didn't mind it all too much.

Wonder how Fishcake is getting / has got on?

Biscuitsandtea · 29/02/2012 15:21

Sorry Pop that first sentence should have said 'GTT is not a routine pg test' unless they suspect it etc etc

DreamingOfPeace · 29/02/2012 16:10

Thinking of fishcake and hoping for a nice porky baby on the scan. And how could I forget babyfish is arriving the day before the dreamy twins?! (Liked that one biscuits)!

Jen, hope you're recovering

scream, dd gives me no time to be bored... I'm exhausted and emotional at the minute. I'd quite like a day of boredom. But not weeks of it like you, poor thing.

Boo, my amazing car seat deal is not so amazing. She doesn't actually own the seat to sell, just the base, but took car to halfords and the very lovely helpful lady tried everything but the britax is no good. So I'm cabrio fix hunting...

On phone n that's all I can remember... But spending so much money now (& new carseat to come if i can't find one to borrow...) don't know if i can justify a ju ju be prepared. No cheap nice ones on eBay!!

fishcakefoxtrot · 29/02/2012 16:31

Just a super quick update to say that, yet again, the power brooking should not be underestimated!

Growth is continuing nicely along the line and my blood pressure was ok apart from when the dr took a second reading while we were talking about stats courses at Uni and that made it go right up! Bad memories of statistics classes. third reading was taken in calm silence and was fine.

Have to go and pick up DD now but will be back later with a positive c-section story from a mum at toddler group.

Flowers all round for the brooking and Brew for Jen- sounds like you need it!

And Far don't think we can't see you lurking there! Looking forward to you joining us full time v soon (and all the other soon to PSEPP too, of course).

Biscuitsandtea · 29/02/2012 16:45

Yay for a good scan Fishcake - that's absolutely excellent news :)

scarletfingernail · 29/02/2012 17:20

Fantastic news fishcake

jenfraggle · 29/02/2012 17:50

Thanks for the concern. I had to have the GTT because I'm fat and my DM is diabetic.

Glad you're making a little chubster Fishcake

ScreamIfYouWantToGoFaster · 29/02/2012 19:30

I had the GTT because my brother is diabetic, and it wasn't fun at all! Sorry to hear you had such a difficult time with it Jen, but well done for getting through it.

Fishcake glad to hear your LO is growing so well!

Popcorn I think you're well within your rights to say no to your friend with the poorly DD. I would be inclined to say no even if I wasn't pg, esp considering your DH having suffered with this previously! Personally I think it's odd she's even suggesting coming round, irrespective of not knowing you're pregnant!

I just wanted to pass on some lovely news. My friend who had her baby at 26 weeks has been posting regular updates on facebook. The baby is now 7 weeks old and has just doubled her birth weight! She's been taken off a lot of the various systems that were supporting her at first, and her condition has improved to the point that she's been able to move to my friend's local hospital instead of needing the specialist care at the bigger hospital much further away. She's even started learning to breastfeed this week rather than exclusively relying on tube feeding. She's just doing really really well for a baby born so early. Just wanted to pass on a happy positive story before OBEM comes on later and scares us all again!

pommedechocolat · 29/02/2012 20:07

Yay for jen and her needle conquering, yay for Fischcake and growing baby and yay for Scream's friend!

About to attempt birth story again! DD1 in bed exhausted (she asked to go to bed!) and dd2 not due a feed for another 45 mins or so!

pommedechocolat · 29/02/2012 20:30

Abbie's Birth Story

I have to have a medicalised, monitored early induction type of labour due to a blood clotting issue. DD1's birth ended in 4 hours of pushing, failed ventouse and forceps in theatre 48 hours post induction beginning with what seemed like every doctor and midwife in the hospital present as she was also back to back and didn't turn. I had an epidural then which helped enormously until post birth when I suddenly hated it (restrictive as I had to keep it in for ages due to med interaction).

This time I knew the likelihood was that I would be refused an epidural as guidelines on my meds have changed since. I was up for trying but very nervous. My worries about c section also increased as it would probably be ga if I had to have a section.

At 10 am they examined me, couldn't break waters and put the prostin gel in. Nothing much other than back/bum/thigh pain resulted. At 4pm my consultant (who likes a challenge) used the CROCHET HOOK and my membranes were ruptured. Very light irregular contractions began. At 6pm I had been off meds for 24 hours and a decision needed to made between my meds (ruling out epidural) or an IV line of heparin during labour. My obstetrician and blood doctor spoke on the phone and plumped for my meds.

THE DRIP (syntocin) was then started at 7pm and they began to double the dose every half an hour. Contractions built but remained irregular and inefficient. I was hoping to last out without gas and air until 11pm when they were planning to rexamine me so I would know where I was before I gave into my pain relief option. From 9pm this started to get a lot harder and I developed mental games to get me through 15 min slots to then start again. At 10pm they started to notice decelerations in baby's heart rate. At 10.30pm I asked for gas and air and the doctor came in to see the heart rate issues. They decided to hang on and wait to see what happened. I was struggling to use the g and air properly (keep doing short shallow breaths and stopping it before peak) and contractions were really starting to get going. At 11.15pm they examined me - 5 blummin cm! I got disheartened then as it felt much more intense. I decided to try some diamorphine and at 11.30pm they injected it into my bottom promising that it would take effect in about 30 mins.

5 mins later I had the oddest feeling - like I needed to poo but it was like my rectal passage was the width of my entire body. I said (stupidly) that I needed to poo rather than push and noone really took much notice! I then announced I was going to push, midwife checked quickly and said to everyone to get going! Midwife and student (I was her first!) sat on bed and coached me through pushing. 9 mins later Abbie emerged as she basically plunged through entire pelvis and birth canal like a nuclear missile! She took 30 secs to cry due to shock but after lots of OBEM I could see she was pinking so although it was a wait it wasn't as bad as it could be.

Diamorphine kicked in just after that so placenta and perineal check were easy! I had a shallow second degree tear which I was told I could stitch or not - I went for not. Abbie was rooting and finding the nipple then and not long after began to suck and fed on and off for the next two hours whilst they sorted me out, did paper work and we transferred to post natal private room.

AMAZING. I know to many people it sounds horrible and medical but for someone like me who has no other option for labour it feels like I had a home birth in a pool!! I was so glad I felt the pushing stage this time - it is an incredible, intense (painful!) sensation. I am also proud of myself for doing 5-10 cm in 20 mins with THE DRIP on just gas and air :)

PurpleWithaBlueBun · 29/02/2012 20:39

Oh Pomme that is wonderful! And I am amazed that OBEM was useful in your situation and giving you that reassurance :) And G&A is amazing with any induction never mind with THE DRIP! And the pushing stage is uniquely powerful and instinctive.

I need my baby out now, I was hoping for the 29th!

scarletfingernail · 29/02/2012 20:44

Wow pomme what an amazing birth story. Such a contrast to DD1's. Sounds very fast once it all got going, but also very intense. 5-10 cm in 20 minutes Shock I want that birth!

How did you find the diamorphine? I wasn't aware until this series of OBEM that it was even an option. Is it very similar to pethidine do you know? If it is there's no way I want it. But if it does actually take the pain away without sending you away with the fairies then it seems a good option?

scarletfingernail · 29/02/2012 20:46

You're next Purple How exciting!

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