'December 2011' - 3 left! <dejected pompommery>

[LittleMissFlustered]

Ali was really well behaved for most of the visit. He woke up and wanted constant feeding for the first 1h30(ish), but then slept or napped quietly for almost 4 hours!
(he's been v active since to make up for it!)
The visit was lovely, but work related. And just like any mtg, I always set myself up with work to do!!?! ( but I need to do some "keep in touch" hours to boost maternity pay).

Honey - haddock req'd for your DP! Oh but you can see he means to be supportive. My DP is the same. At the start, at every bf hiccup he was ready to run out and get formula - but just meaning to ease my burden. He didn't realise he was launching a kick in my teeth.
Can you get get someone to help out to help with sleep deprivation? If someone could take Rocco for an hour, just so you could have some uninterrupted rest time? Hope you are feeling better and less wobbly.
Good luck MissRee!!
congrats darcies - it's fab to look forward to a wedding, but add to that the Caribbean sea and beaches - and sunshine!
Btw - I'm using bepanthen. The MWs recommended it at the antenatal classes - so I blindly followed. It's more user-friendly than sudocrem (which is a bit "solid", I find).
Have a good evening everyone!

Sorry to hear about Sky's virus darcies.
bad news about the mastitus northern! sounds awful! (hugs).

I have to confess on the old moby wrap I watched the youtube video and it brought forward my lack of spatial awareness I tried it on but just didn't feel secure going to have another go with it tonight.

I'll update the stats thread later hopefully when on a proper computer my phone doesn't seem to be up to the job.

We made it out! Home ed group was great, but wow! I am so very very tired now. I have fingers crossed that it has worn out the DDs, I need the extra rest tonight.

Skin care - I have a friend who runs an organic skin car business, all handmade lovely stuff. She does a Zinc and Chickweed cream which is the best thing on baby bums in the world! For the bigger ones, I use just pure Shea butter on any dry bits.

Am off to die quietly on the sofa while the DDs are colouring in...Miri seems to be in a feed-burp-decide air bubble made some room-feed-burp- cycle this afternoon which is not much fun with how tired I am!

Thanks Oi.
Yup, massaging a lump in my boob makes me go all wibble, but I'm just so grateful I feel better than yesterday. At least I've still been able to feed on it without too much pain/ discomfort, and so have been sticking it in LO's mouth every time he twitches, which seems to be all you can do...

Think I'll def have first few goes on moby with DP there and helping!

Hope you all sleep tonight msb.

Sorry can't update other thread as my phone won't copy and our laptop is taking forever to load up at the mo. Can someone update for me pls? BORN 18 Dec 8lb 9oz boy Oliver Stephen Bolton

Thanks!

The names for the post natal thread sound great though I'd vote for one which didn't mention boobs as it's still difficult to accept I can't bf and expressing isn't going well at the mo!

Posting at a run: can't do copying and stuff on my phone, but octopus boy arrived on 06/01/12 :)

Hoping everyone's well. We're now line and cannula free, small steps:)

aethel thanks for putting the clarification on about Sudocrem. It's definitely what the nursery thought and said though - if we wanted them to use Sudocrem on DD we had to sign it in and out for the day in the same way as for any medicine!

Well kate,I suppose nursery just decided sudocrem counted as a medicine for some reason (it does tout itself as being "medicated")- personally I just like the lavender smell :o) also, it seemed to be effective in combination with cloth nappies (some barrier cream is best with cloth as it's not as totally bone dry as the chemical gel based disposables). If my two ever did get really sore bums then I brought out the "big guns": a yellow tincture cream called Metanium, it's what we used to use in special care on the preemies and is the bee's knackers for clearing up bad nappy rash.

Will try to update the other threadnif my phone plays ball.

Boo for mastitis northern: hope you can feed through it and get etter spon- if the fluey feeling doesnt go PdQ then see your GP for some BF-friendly antibiotics.

Glad octoboy is holding his own LMF and hope he's well enough to transitoonal care with you soon...

And well done for getting out msb: I got to the supermarket with DS today (walked round with him in the moby wrap:far simpler than juggling a car seat in the trolley as he slept the whole
Way): though I cheated by doing it when the DDs were at school!
Thursday's challenge is to attempt a swimming lesson outing with all 3 of them: not sure if I will use the wrap or try DS in the buggy...or wiss out and hide!!

How about " Next Generation: The Trouble With Dribbles"
Or "Dec 2011: All out! Live Long and Prosper"
Or (as we've had a few bugs going around) "beam me up, snotty!"
Ok, that last one's a bit tasteless. Someone else come up with something!

Hi all, sorry I have been MIA. Getting used to the lack of sleep/zombie mode of being. DD2 insists on being held constantly and only sleeping on us even co-sleeping is an unsettled struggle. this too shall pass right? dd1 has been unsettled sleep wise too.

LMF hope the octopus is sent home very soon.

Boo hiss, I had a longer post which got eaten will come back when able to engage brain.

Can we share ideas for how to placate LOs?
It breaks my heart when he screams and goes red. The only way to placate him is to offer the boob. But he's fighting tiredness, so falls asleep for a few seconds, but then wakes and screams again. I don't want to feed him constantly as I don't want a repeat of the projectile vomiting.
So, ideas please!!

Hi all, my phone can't copy either- would someone mind updating the other thread for me? Minimopsy born 19/12/11 6lbs 11oz.

Oi I find swaddling helps calm, also holding he on her side and jiggling her. not always but sometimes. Walking with her while swaying/dancing also calms her sometimes.

oi both DS and DD hated being swaddled but both love beoing carried in the sling. I love the moby wrap and we also have a baby bjorn I bought second hand for £8 as DH doesn't like stretchy ones.

Walking around shushing and patting, going for walk in pram or sling, white noise like hairdryer or vacuum cleaner (you can get 8 hrs of vacuum cleaner noise on YouTube) also worked. Failsafe is a drive in the car.

I've also mentioned dummies before and how I used to be anti-dummy but DS really NEEDED to suck and only ever had them for sleep. I credit them with DS being an amazing sleeper now, he can go from hyper to drowsy in seconds and throws himself into the cot at bedtime! We can literally plonk him in the cot and walk away and he'll be aaleep in seconds.

Singing also used to help with DS, sometimes I would sing for an hour +! Recently he has started telling me to shush if I start singing. I don't thinl I'm that bad!

Had 2hrs 40 sleep already tonight so feeling optimistic for a good night. Between boobs at the moment and winding :)

I'm on the burp cycle too: DS has just given me a 3.5 hour sleep (total bliss!) and then emthusiasticslly drained one boob... But now I'm lopsided and thr other boob is killing me: he'd better not fall asleep without doing that one as well!!!

Settling tips: I pretty much do the stuff mmmm does, rather than dummies I use the suck on a clean-little-finger method, mostly cos we were given a two-pack of dummies as backup in case of colic by a friend and I lost em ... But pretty much every mum/dad has a little finger to hand if you're holding them anyway. Singing,rocking, the colic hold (google it, it's very effective for calming rhem
If you walk around in that hold). Swaying from
Side to side with them mimics them being
In the womb, they love it. I did so much swaying with DD1 (who used to get a bit of colic in the evenings) that sometimes I'd find myself automatically swaying even when I wasnt holding her eg when by myself in the queue at the Co-op ...

phew, LO latched onto the other boob. symmetry is mine!!

Feed, burp, change, feed and down

See you in two >_

Ooh, and tomorrow is a bit exctiting as DS will be trying out my cloth nappies (I know it's very sad to be excited about nappies but inwas a total cloth nappy obsessive with the DDs: they are cute, sooo much cheaper than disposables an when you have a good selection that fit baby well, you get the environmental warm-fuzzy factor of not having a heaving rubbish bin too.
When I had the DDs (23 month age gap) I had eightnmonths with both of them in cloth and felt like a nappy changing machine until Dd1 potty trained. This time I've got a starter stash of little first size nappies from verious places (if anyone wants nappy!supply!links pM ms) until Ds is big enougj for my trusty favourite motherease-onesize-Dry (which trchnically go from 8-30 lb but they look comedy-huge on a newborn!)
I'm starting with some size 1 little lambs and soze 1
Totsbots, and a selection of "new generation" nappies that weren't on the market when inhad the DDs (one each of itti bitty, wee notion pocket, bumgenius newborn and a wonderoo pocket napp from DD2).

Hi lmf anyone else up?

Thanks - I don't like the sling I bought (hurts my back - only used 2x, maybe got it wrong) but it does send him straight to sleep. Stupid silly me for forgetting that!!!

He was really tetchy this evening, over tired I guess. We got him off near 11, but he only woke at 2:45 for a feed so that's ok.
Sle-eee-eeep! G'night.

Just started the feed cycle, feed-burp-feed-burp-change-feed-burp. On the first feed bit. Sometimes she guzzles so fast I've to stop and burp her. She hates being interrupted like that but she only pukes it up otherwise! In spite of 2 hrs before midnight while husband had her and two hours between one and three, feeling v tired tonight ...

aethel, really want to use non-disposables but tiny house & since I've had her, the radiators andclothes pulley have been full literally non stop. Not sure how I'd manage to dry nappies as well and afraid if I us a clothes horse I would make house really damp, given radiators already full. But really want to try them and my husband is really keen. As well as environmentally friendly (horrified a increase in rubbish since arrival of minimopsy!), they save money. How do you find drying?

Feed time!!

I couldn't get to sleep last night so he was asleep before me and then I woke before him this morning v strange as usually I'm out before head touches pillow. Hopefully he will go through to 8 once get him back down we then registering him at 9.30 to be a real boy!!

I too am a walker and rocker when he screaming, he gets really fussy in the evenings before we have nappy free time so I end up just walking round the house with him chattering away to him usually works. Last night I also gave him lots if boob and he took it with no dramas or follow up bottle . He did have a half hour skype session with my mum where he sat chilled out and happy which was nice, his first trip home to my family in Scotland is now booked, flying on my own with a 6 week old isn't something I'm looking forward to.

The HV came yesterday and was lovely she weighed him and hes up to 9lb 11 from birth weight of 9lb 4. He still needing the formula for calories but feel a bit more chilled out about the mixed feeding (or at least until next time he's hysterically grabbing my nipples and screaming in my face because he's so hungry).

Missree hope the labour fairy has visited you ahead of induction, I was induced and it was fine but appreciate it would alter your plans somewhat.

figgy I too have totally relaxed about the mixed feeding and as a direct result can now express more milk and minimopsy is coming to the breast more easily and seems to the more too. Being stressed and upset clearly wasn't helping me but it was very very hard for me to chill. Tomorrow after I've been to the nurse at lunch time (still having to have my bp monitored) an going to take to the bed for the rest of the day for some skin-to-skin and as much breast as she likes to see how we get on. If it improves the bf well and good, if not we will still have some lively snuggle time!!!

'seems to eat more too'
'am going to'
'lovely snuggle time'

Bloody iPhone!!!