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December 2011: Scratching, squeezing, hatching and latching...

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LittleMissHumbuggery · 10/12/2011 22:43

...and those of us left are doing a fair bit of bitching:o

I wonder if we could get a [pompoms] going on? Do we have the energy for a campaign?Wink

Right, come on! We're a third of the way through the month and Nickelbabe needs new recruits for her advent thread. Get squeezing:o

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LittleMissHumbuggery · 18/12/2011 04:07

for pully Hoping you have a good night:)

plu I would have done the tooth thing, but the dentist hid my tooth away:( Either protocol or it was manky. Was a bit gutted to be fair, I wanted to swear at it:o

Right. Back to sleep. Where I dream of buying a house with an upstairs loo!Wink

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DarcieandSnowballsmum · 18/12/2011 08:23

oooo Pully Good Luck.

I woke up this morning with pelvic cramp and backache! hoping something kicks off, would really like the baby born today as my Grandads birthday RIP and I know would make my nan happy Smile

kri5tycringle · 18/12/2011 08:43

Aww darcies fingers crossed its today for you then!!

bennybenbear · 18/12/2011 09:16

No go here yet still waiting to go down to delivery and not much more progress on it's own. Had a lot of back pain, sickness, diarrhoea and bloody discharge last night (sorry tmi at this time of the morning!) but mostly eased off this morning. Was supposed to go down at 6am but they are busy apparently. More time for things to progress on their own but lost the pessary again so not holding my breath!

Good luck to the others on the brink!! Hope things progress quicker for you.

kri5tycringle · 18/12/2011 09:34

I hope things get going before you go down bec sending you lots of labour vibes! Come on little one, wiggle it, just a little bit!

aethelfleda · 18/12/2011 10:14

go go go benny, pully and darcies !!

msbaublestwinkle · 18/12/2011 10:32

Fingers crossed (& legs uncrossed!) for darcies benny and pully that you have your babies in your arms soon.

I'm feeling a bit sleepy this morning, Miri fed five times between 11 and 7 last night, no idea how I would cope if she wasn't in bed with me. DD2 is bfing a bit more often now, I am encouraging her to 'mop up' after Miri has nursed so I don't leak!

mopsytop · 18/12/2011 10:34

Good luck bennie, pully and darcies! In spite of many cramps, never became regular and now again ... nothing. Getting so so frustrated :(

OiMistletoe · 18/12/2011 10:36

Go go go pully, benny and darcies indeed!!!

I'm beginning to think a dummy isn't such a bad idea. Alistair wants to feed all the time - he'll do 20 mins, and then 30 mins later is chomping at his hands again and getting agitated. He fed every hour yesterday evenjng, I was exhausted. ...I still am exhausted. Even when he sleeps, he often can be quite noisy, so I'm getting very little sleep.

msbaublestwinkle · 18/12/2011 10:46

oi the reason he will be feeding so often is to establish your supply properly, prolactin (one of the major milk making hormones) is at higher levels during darkness which is why they do it in the evenings and at night. Just for information, dummies before 6-8 weeks can interfere with supply (by making babies ask for food less frequently) and can cause nipple confusion as the sucking action used is different. Obviously these are possibilities rather than definites, but I couldn't not make sure you have the info, I do realise that I am annoying!

Tinselperion · 18/12/2011 11:00

I know you were answering oi but you just answered my question too mrsb - last 2 nights Pirran has wanted to be latched on pretty continuously between 11.30pm and 6am and we were worried we had created a fully nocturnal baby - a relief to know about the prolactin and that everyone else's LOs are doing the same! Thank goodness I have figured out how to lie on my side with him latched on (and that my DH can settle him by bouncing him skin to skin sitting on my pezzi ball!)

Hope the babies come soon, hang in there ladies - sounds like a lot are teetering on the edge and we will welcome another crop in a day or too! Pompoms all round! Xmas Grin

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LittleMissHumbuggery · 18/12/2011 11:03

all over the show for Darcies benny and pully

May there be snuggly bug hugs aplenty for you all today:)

I'm rearranging my living room and putting our tree up today. The excitement. I may need coffee you knowWink

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msbaublestwinkle · 18/12/2011 11:20

tinsel if you can excuse me going all bfing geeky...from an evolutionary point of view, night nursing makes a lot of sense, night would be the time when humans were likely to be under shelter and all together, so therefore safer than needing to stop every five minutes in the day time. Ok, it doesn't fit wonderfully well with the way we live now, but somehow knowing why makes me feel better about it!

The other interesting one about why human babies nurse so frequently is to do with the different ways in which mammals raise their young. Roughly, you can divide mammals into caching species and carrying species. So, deer (for example!) leave their young in bushes etc while they graze, their young can run within an hour or so of birth and their milk is (comparatively) much higher in protein and fat, so they need to nurse less frequently. Carrying species (mainly primates)...erm, carry their young, their babies are more helpless and their (our!) milk is lower in protein and fat and contains more water. All this makes for human babies who, due to their relative helplessness, like to kept closer, need to feed more often...and now my own little mammal needs milk again! Good job really as I can witter on all day!

DarcieandSnowballsmum · 18/12/2011 11:52

Walked into our local high street as DD had her first hair appointment in the hairdressers (normally a friend does it) this was her treat for being good and my does she look so different and grown up. fringe, layers & curled using GHDs which DP will be buying for her later!

loads of back ache and pelvic pain, some tightenings too, feels like I've got contractions in my back (just wishful thinking)!

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LittleMissHumbuggery · 18/12/2011 11:56

I've just eaten two whole slices of toast without sobbing! There's a lot of tenderness, but it's progress:o

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Mmmmcheese · 18/12/2011 12:08

I didn't get much sleep last night either as babybel was very unsettled and wanted to latch on all the time but then didn't suck when she was latched on. I think she had tummy ache but despite loads of winding nothing came up. Had to resort to her sleeping on my chest which was always a failsafe with DS but don't reaLly want to start it with her. Have managed to catcj up on sleep this morning while DH looked after DS but dreading when he goes back to work and I have to get up at 7 even if I've only had 2 hrs sleep!

Have also managed to get her latched on lying down but find I have to push my boob away from her nose otherwise she can't breathe very well. Not very well endowed so boobs are in the air rather than lying on the bed IFYSWIM!! Any advice? Also, if you feed lying down at night does that mean you don't wind at all?

aethelfleda · 18/12/2011 12:33

Hooray LMH! glad the tooth trouble is a bit improved.

msbaublestwinkle · 18/12/2011 12:38

Feeding lying down...if you bring babybel's bum right into your body, her head will naturally tilt a bit further back, which should move her nose enough for her to be comfy. As long as you could get a credit card between nose and breast you are fine. As for winding, Miri brings wind up pretty easily so I'm not sure it would work for all babies, but what I do is nurse from one side then clutch her into my chest and roll us both over, usually the rolling over makes her burp! However, I didn't wind the other two ever, as they just didn't need it, bfed babies don't always need winding.

DarcieandSnowballsmum · 18/12/2011 12:45

Can you have back ache & no abdominal contractions to be in labour?

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LittleMissHumbuggery · 18/12/2011 13:40

Darcies Yes as far as I know, back labour.

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Tinselperion · 18/12/2011 13:52

darcies yes I think there was someone (seven?) who felt contractions solely in their back and never got the sort of "period pains" contraction - cant remember...will search for you. Oh I SO hope it's labour for you!!

DeckTheHawthersWithBells · 18/12/2011 13:55

Can anyone tell if being way over emotional is a sign that labour is impending or am I just a normal heavily pregnant woman. Want to cry over everything today - it's most tedious.

jinglebum · 18/12/2011 14:25

Afternoon everyone and congrats on the new arrivals. Its very reassuring reading this thread as sounds like lot s of us are having the same bf ing, sleep and settling issues. I cant remember it being the same with DS who would settle quite easily.

Freya seems to want to feed all the time, sometimes for over an hour at a time and has yet to sleep in her moses basket, so I am co-sleeping, which means I get very little sleep and can spend hours bf ing. Then DS comes in in the morning so little lie in. As someone else said - I am dreading how I will cope when Dh is back to work in jan. Hopefully she will feed less often and settle better by then. Dh is being a star but has to spend most of the time looking after ds, who has been v loving to freya but is playing up a bit.

Had a tearful day yesterday as just all felt too much - combination of hormones, lack of sleep, sore nipples and stiches, frustration at ds being awful and shouting at him too much, also builders still no where near finishing (should have gone by now) and waking to a leak in our newly decorated room. All too much for one day

OiMistletoe · 18/12/2011 14:28

Ok, thanks msb, I'll hold off on the dummy.
MW just been. Got an appt for a consultation with the anaesthetist re: the headaches and the potential blood patch. He also advised better pain relief so I don't overdose on ibuprofen.

DarcieandSnowballsmum · 18/12/2011 16:19

Feeling very disheartened Sad back ache was becoming very intense every 10mins for about 2hrs with lower abdominal cramps also so DP said to ring MW, was advised to head to labour ward - well what a waste of time got there to be told just back ache - she couldn't even feel my cervix when she done an internal - which has baffled me as how can I go from hardly posterior right back to posterior and not effaced? She basically gave me some stronger painkillers and told to go home and all likelyhood baby will be here after Xmas! Just as this snotty, I can't be bothered midwife was walking away, my actual midwife came round the corner at this point I'm in floods of tears with the pain (which isn't me) and said she'd check my notes and deal with the situation and to go home, take the painkillers and have a bath and any issues then to call her direct as she's on the unit tonight. DP was pissed off and basically said wasted journey and blamed me even tho he was the one who told me to call in the first place!

Feel so sick, achy, pain, uncomfortable, tired and totally fed up!

Wish this time round was as simple as it was with DD!