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December 2011: Scratching, squeezing, hatching and latching...

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LittleMissHumbuggery · 10/12/2011 22:43

...and those of us left are doing a fair bit of bitching:o

I wonder if we could get a [pompoms] going on? Do we have the energy for a campaign?Wink

Right, come on! We're a third of the way through the month and Nickelbabe needs new recruits for her advent thread. Get squeezing:o

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bennybenbear · 16/12/2011 14:40

Thanks all, first pessary in place so waiting game now. Apparently having tightenings but still likely to be a long one!

Vanessa that Christmas card pic is GORGEOUS!!!

DarcieandSnowballsmum · 16/12/2011 14:43

Oi Alistair is gorgeous Smile

Figgy Hopefully things will kick into gear for you.

Seven Sorry to disappoint you but the Euromillions are mine tonight Grin

Still not bloody contractions - never wanted to feel pain so much Sad get the feeling Snowball wants to stay put....but I want him/her here ready for Xmas.

mopsytop · 16/12/2011 14:56

Oi Alistair is gorgeous! Awwww.

AnAirOfHope · 16/12/2011 15:41

I love all the baby photos, xmas is the best time for a new baby Blush

Oi Alistair is so cute in his outfit and what great hair he has Smile

I hope the induction goes well and you see your baby soon Bennybenbear

Figgy i hope the sweep works fast for you and it gets labour going

Seven and Darcie - no the Euromillions are mine Grin

Have a good weekend everyone Smile

PludolphTheRedNosedReindeer · 16/12/2011 16:10

I'm glad I'm not the only one speculating about eyes, msb - I was beginning to feel a pushy mother!

seven, that's a great weight gain - that's a child with an appetite! Sorry you are stressing about the heart murmur and the DCs' interaction. I'm sure older children can be trained, and your mother's stress is not helpful! After all, no child likes to be treated as naughty or told they can't be tristed (though I hope she's confining her comments to you, and isn't saying it to him!). My mother has been very sharp with DS this week, for things which aren't even that naughty - poor child is confused by the presence of so many adults, and she actually said he was angelic when he was on his own with her. Adult behaviour is important, though. Yesterday, he asked for a cuddle with her, and I put her on his lap, whereupon she started straining (evenings are Poo Time), and I made the injudicious comment that she was trying to do a poo. He pushed her off his lap and she rolled onto the sofa. I accept that that was my fault for not thinking how he would react, and think he can be trained, so have hope!

Hope you are enjoying being spaced out, LittleMissHumbuggery. Not being able to find out the cause of your toothache is a real bugger, especially with a dentist so willing to help, and whom you evidently trust.

Good luck, Kate, mopsy, Darcies, bennybenbear, figgy!

An AirofHope, surely the HV has no way of enforcing how you feed, so she would be better advised to give constructive tips on how to manage things. She's probably not going to recommend pacifying him with CBeebies (Xmas Grin), but of course we all know that option is there! And we've all already shared more and better advice on this thread, about keeping an older child occupied while a baby is feeding! That's an issue, of course - it is for anyone - but changing the method of feeding is really rather irrelevant, and an inadequate solution, isn't it? Also, seven is spot on with that point about FF being more work. There's also more opportunity for daily incompetence (e.g. forgetting to take feeds while out and about) which would be more of a downer (surely a risk for someone with depression?).

fusam, I think the word shero might have to be stowed (or be-stowed on someone else), especially if it has to do with no-pain-relief. Given how I have remained reluctant to condemn birth interventions (inductions, C-sections, etc.), I hope you all undersand I didn't actually go drug-free through choice! People who soldiered through a long and harsh labour (off the top of my head, kri5ty, Oimistletoe and Tinselperion) are a lot less lucky and showed more endurance than I had a chance to. Tyel's post a few days ago, about not being particularly in tune with one's body, struck a chord with me; I was never going to commit to hypnobirthing, and failed to do my perineal massage. I had resigned myself to not having an epidural, given the lengthy hospital journey we would be having (hahaha), but that is as far as that went. And I really went to town on thr gas & air when the MW was stitching me (my very lips were buzzing!), such that she had to take me off it for a little while, reminding me that I had a local in place - oops.
P.S. sorry to be ungracious, but we are all in this together!

Oi, he's very cute, and very alert! Xmas Smile

DarcieandSnowballsmum · 16/12/2011 16:16

I think whoever wins the Euromillions should share a portion between us Grin

ChristmasPullyWoolOver · 16/12/2011 16:46

Come on Benny, Darcie and Kate!

LMH hope your teeth are feeling better? Toothache really is the worst.

Oi I can't tell you how much I love your photo, he is truly scrumptious!

It's my due date today so am a little Sad at the distinct lack of action. I know it's rare that babies come on their due date but the weight of expectation from friends and family is ramping up. Had a sweep today tho so fingers crossed that sparks something (anything!).

In fact the only thing to report is I keep getting REALLY hot flushes - a well known sign of impending labour perhaps

Off to do some ironing and jiggling around to keep upright - gravity is my friend Grin

MerrySorelip · 16/12/2011 17:16

Good evening all! Sweep has been done, and MW reckons labour will start in 24-48 hours, and that even if I do need to be induced, they will just need to break my waters. I'm so relieved!

MerrySorelip · 16/12/2011 17:21

Figgy, I've got my fingers crossed for you.

Benny, good luck with the induction!

Labour vibes to those who want them.

LittleMissHumbuggery · 16/12/2011 17:31

'lo!

Air Your HV must be related to my last one. Word of wisdom for you. You do not have to have tem in your home. You can tell them you're hapier contacting them if you need them, and ask for a nice list of clinic times where they will be available.

Benny Luck!

everyone else

I'm waiting for an emergency appointment with the out of hours dentist. Pain ramped up big time today, and the painkillers can't keep it under wraps any more. I'm going to pull a pregnant hissy fit and demand they remove the tooth. Thanks for all your support. Hope to be back later with a gaping hole in my gum:o

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mopsytop · 16/12/2011 18:39

Hope your tooth gets sorted lmh. I was really sick after lunch today. No idea why. Feel okay again now after a couple of hours in bed. I was hoping it was an early labour symptom - anyone heard of vomiting as a symptom? But is probably just another annoying thing to add to my long list ... my midwife said today that the aches/cramps etc. can go on for weeks. Was thrilled to hear that of course! I could have potentially another 2.5 weeks of this :(

TheFirstNoelChinchilla · 16/12/2011 18:44

Hello all- doing this one handed as bf'ing, but thank God posted on other thread so can copy! Sorry for length and thank you for all the good lucks earlier.

Sooooo....
Ben landed at 4.45pm on Monday, weighing 7lbs 8oz and 22 inches long.

ELCS went perfectly, just the chilled birth I was hoping for (I know that will sound odd to most people, but for me it was great!) Hospital stay was fine- was discharged after 48 hours (Wednesday afternoon), but was up, showered, 'de-lined' etc by 7.30 am Tuesday. Had nothing stronger than paracetemol and ibuprofen since then too. Couldn't get over how relatively quiet it was too, despite them bursting at the seams- didn't bother with the single room in the end.

The only naff bits were the fact that I was nil by mouth from Sunday night, but timings and two EMCSs on the Monday afternoon meant that it was 16 hours without a drink. Not pleasant, and they had to put in a canula for a drip by 3pm- tbh, the most painful bit of the whole experience. The itching post morphine and the (tmi, sorry) transferred pain of the trapped wind to my shoulder were also unpleasant, but mainly gone by Wednesday am.

So been home for two days, and it's been...rather wonderful actually. Ben latched on in recovery; the nurses did it there but I managed on the third go and he's been feeding ever since. Really rather sore nipples, and I shout BAD WORDS for the first minute as he latches (thank God for Lansinoh), and having to top up with formula once or twice a day because he's a total gannet, but other than that he's being bf on demand from about 4am to 11pm- my lovely partner takes the night shift so I can get 4-5 hours proper sleep. We're getting a few naps in too, so feeling fine.
Am loving the 'living in pyjamas and eating chocolate biscuits non-stop' bit of this newborn stage, think they should highlight this more when encouraging women to bf Xmas Grin!

He's not one for being put down though- today's the first day he's gone in his moses basket. Even at the hospital he wouldn't go in his tank, so he was either being bf or I'd have him sleeping on me. He's continued this at home, and far prefers passing out on either me or OH. Not what I was planning but if it's the only place he'll sleep then so be it- he's only four days old and he'll make the change soon enough.

So it's all really, really lovely here- just holed up, the three of us, with nothing to worry about apart from the little man. My OH has completely and utterly fallen in love, it's been wonderful to watch. Please God may this continue, with the child getting used to his basket so I can get on MN once in a while!! I know that it can go tits up overnight and know there will be many grim times along the way,, so am enjoying every moment when it's good...he's fast asleep in my lap as I type and is gorgeous.

Will now read through to see what's been doing- least I can do that one handed! Can't wait to find out who else has hatched. Will also do my best to get a picture up.

LittleMissHumbuggery · 16/12/2011 18:58

mopsy My friend only ever vomited when labouring when she was pregnant. Everyone is differet. Could just be your body having a strop.

Chinchilla Good to see everything going well:)

I can't be seen by a dentist until late tomorrow afternoon at the earliest. This makes me sad:( I am going to eat painkillers and sleep as much as I can until then.

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KateKringle · 16/12/2011 19:05

Sorry to post and run. Will try and catch up soon....

Daniel James arrived at 7.15am today weighing 8lb 6oz. Things sped up quite dramatically and we only got to hospital at 6.30am so there was no time for any pain relief. Had a small tear that needed stiching and have a graze too, but all fine otherwise and we were home by 3pm. DD is fascinated by her baby brother.

bennybenbear · 16/12/2011 19:14

Congratulations chinchilla and Kate!

No progress here yet and DH being turfed out soon so will be bedding down for the evening and hoping something kicks off overnight!

DarcieandSnowballsmum · 16/12/2011 19:22

Chinchilla Kate Congratulations Grin

KateKringle · 16/12/2011 19:35

Congrats Chinchilla

Meant to say Daniel latched really well straight away, has fed well throughout the day and done a good big poo.....meaning he doesn't have the bowel problems DD had Xmas Grin

DH just made us a dinner that included blue cheese. My happiness is complete Xmas Smile

mopsytop · 16/12/2011 19:37

Congrats Kate! Not many of us left now!

TheFirstNoelChinchilla · 16/12/2011 19:39

So...apols for epic post no. 2, you can tell LO is currently in his basket Xmas Grin! Am not trying to take plu's crown, but after 5 days then needs must!

Congrats Plu, glad to hear you're doing well. Not surprised it's your DH and Mum that are the ones in shock, it's always worse when it's happening to someone else, but I'm sure they'll pull round. I did laugh at your DH nearly stepping in the placenta though!

Oi I am so, so sorry to hear of what happened- nothing more terrifying in the world. I hope your little man is improving; do allow yourself the chance to be shocked/tearful, etc, and I hope you and your OH are feeling a little better. He is totally beautiful and wow to the hair!

jingle congratulations, and it sounds like our LOs are identical in the 'not wanting to be put down and feeding all the time stakes'! I will be interested to see how Freya changes over time with this, and we can share tips Xmas Smile- at the moment all I can do is to 'sneak' him into his basket when he's asleep...

Toothache in pregnancy sounds the total pits lmh- any news on what it is yet?

Good heavens falalala, you seem to have had a really tough time. Well done for such a positive approach to it all though, and as you say, you have your lovely baby, and you know that things will improve from now on. I completely agree with you re the baby love thing-makes everything else not matter.

kate, so glad that your Dad, apparently alone amongst all friends and family (for everyone on MN!) got the message right! And congratulations on your arrival too.

OMG hoho, they kept the £200- bastards! Big congratulations on your little girl.

tinsel, I've just welled up big time reading your DH's post. I don't know which bit is making me cry more, your incredibly tough time, the amount that your DH obviously loves you or his elegant and kind words. Congratulations on your baby.

air, you HV should be there to support you, not to make you feel down about yourself. I'd keep notes and if it continues like this you've got all the details for a complaint.

Right, off to stuff face and rescue LO from his moses basket!

DarcieandSnowballsmum · 16/12/2011 19:44

Am going to put Lee Evans DVD(s) on in the hope lots of laughter will encourage contractions Grin

msbaublestwinkle · 16/12/2011 19:45

Congratulations chinchilla and Kate! Great that things are going well for both of you!

I have been nursing Miranda-the-bottomless-pit-baby solidly since 1pm now! I am both impressed and tired!

kri5tycringle · 16/12/2011 19:51

Congrats kate and chinchilla :-D

And oi he is gorgeous!!!

So I have given in to the evil dummy... (the evil colic made me), it seems to settle him a little! Have been giving him water as he is constipated, he just strained, smiled, let out a content sigh... checked his nappy and we have poop! Hurrah! Problem is now he has a fresh nappy on, just got him off to sleep and I think he has another :-( lol

LittleMissHumbuggery · 16/12/2011 20:21

I'm off to bed ladies. I'm hoping I can sleep though a little of this.

Hoping that everybody has a good evening, be it feeding and snuggling, relaxing or labouring.

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aethelfleda · 16/12/2011 21:30

Small TMI "me post"....

Piles. Arg. Bugger.

That's all.

sevenswansaswimming · 16/12/2011 21:51

Thanks plu. It seems really odd to me for her to be gaining so much weight, DS had a tiny appetite as a baby and still does now. At this stage with DS we were still struggling for up to an hour to get him to take 60ml. Eva has finished 3 4oz feeds in a row today so I've had to get the bigger bottles out.

orry about the piles aethel.

Big congratulations to kate and chinchilla, can't wait to see more baby pics soon.

We're going to a party tomorrow, one of my friends is doing a Christmas party for all of the little ones at playgroup. Desperately trying to get a cardigan finished for Eva to wear tomorrow.

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