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December 2011: Scratching, squeezing, hatching and latching...

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LittleMissHumbuggery · 10/12/2011 22:43

...and those of us left are doing a fair bit of bitching:o

I wonder if we could get a [pompoms] going on? Do we have the energy for a campaign?Wink

Right, come on! We're a third of the way through the month and Nickelbabe needs new recruits for her advent thread. Get squeezing:o

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AnAirOfHope · 15/12/2011 13:49

Congrats HOHO and Tyle

HV has been - we are all fine but she was not very nice and had some very leading questions. I'm not going to go in to detail as its not worth it.

An tmi question: when should i stop bleeding after the birth?

msbaublestwinkle · 15/12/2011 13:50

Sideways on the stairs...makes your hips wiggle and helps get baby into a good position.

Thank you aethel and darcies I have been a bit of an emotional mess since having Miri, I'm hyper sensitive to everything!

mopsytop · 15/12/2011 13:51

Hmm think is supposed to help get head right down. No idea. Am willing to try anything at the moment! Well, except castor oil. Not a chance!

AReindeerCalledHorse · 15/12/2011 14:01

Congrats Mr & Mrs Tyel, sorry that the birth was the complete opposite of what you wanted Tyel!

mopsy, I've tried everything but castor oil (no way in hell would I try it..but last night was very, very tempted), sending everyone still upduffed labour vibes, hoping for a good update from Darcies soon!
39 weeks today, getting swept by MW tomorrow, planning to go shopping in Bluewater just after so hopefully my waters break in House of Fraser & they give me free stuff Xmas Grin

AnAir, sorry your HV was a pain hope she improves! No idea about the bleeding!

KateKringle · 15/12/2011 14:04

figgy I meant to say before that the sweep was absolutely fine. It didn't hurt, so maybe you really should look forward to it Xmas Wink

AirOfHope I think it was about 8 weeks before I completely stopped bleeding after having DD, although it was very light for the last few weeks. I think it can be quite variable.

Right, I'm off out for a walk to try and keep things moving

mopsytop · 15/12/2011 14:14

Air as far as I know bleeding can last up to 6 weeks. But it should get lighter after a week or two.

DarcieandSnowballsmum · 15/12/2011 14:25

ARCH Only update is thought I was having twinges just now but seems to of stopped.

MsBuggy You & Miri are doing fine Smile

Air HV just interfere IMO. your doing fine Smile

Walking up & down the stairs sideways is next on my agenda - just had a cheeky quicky with DP before the school run in hope that helps too Grin

DarcieandSnowballsmum · 15/12/2011 14:26

Air ps I think I bled about 3-4 weeks after Darcie, then completely stopped.

PludolphTheRedNosedReindeer · 15/12/2011 17:32

Tyelperion and DH, what brilliant news! What an amazing and moving story, and I must admit feeling very unworthy indeed a the end of it, when you said our support had been so important, when it's been very clear what a supportive partnership you have, full of kindness and courage to stand up for one another. Your beautiful baby son is very lucky to have both of you, too!

Well done, Hohohomouse, and congrats on your baby. Xmas Smile

mopsytop, those long-standing pains are all doing something. And, if it makes you feel better, mine are continuing with the feeding... and my lochia is now so light that I think it may end soon! Amazing, considering I bled for a good six weeks last time, if not longer - bleugh! Don't go overboard with any intensifiers (raspberry leaf tea, etc.), though, just in case!

festivefiggy : Shock at your mother's wallet! Glad you're in a state to be humorous about it.

Poor LittleMissHumbuggery, how are you feeling? Did you get any sleep? You leave those pompoms for your energetic and kindly acolytes and get some rest!

Sorelip - your busy baby has got to slow down at some point... Maybe s/he will "get engaged and settle down"?!

Hawthers, get "decking"!

AnAirofHope, hope you can get out soon and meet some people who aren't as negative as your HV, since the more people you have positive interactions with (like us, of course!), the less weight her negativity will have! BTW, I understand HV teams are starting to become more team-like, with less chance of having one individual dedicated to you, at least that's the case where we are. I must admit to being very relieved about that, when I first met our HV recently and she got all over-excited about DS's vivid dreams (not sure why the hell I even bloody mentioned he'd had a nightmare that night!). Argh.

msbaubles, here's hoping you manage to feed the jaundice out! Xmas Smile

Having a reasonably good day here, with milk having come in and feeding becoming less painful. I have also seen Helena's eyes, and they are clear blue, unlike DS's muddy irises (light never went into them to show a colour, until they changed to the lovely clear brown peepers he has now!). I have a blue-eyed gene from my father (blue eyes) and one from my mother (my brother has blue eyes), so that could combine with DH's green ones to produce something light. It's so early to be speculating, but it is exciting!
My DM is getting a bit annoying, though, moving stuff around as she tidies (as she always does). Given the disorder in which we live (oh, yes, DH now finall has a company bank account again, so we have got some money again - hurray!), we can't afford to have anyone do any tidying, especially if that person puts stuff in the office aka one of our quantum singularities

OiMistletoe · 15/12/2011 18:23

Congratulations to tyel and hoho!!!
I'm hoping to feel fit enough and have time enough tomorrow to read this thread - and take and post some pics! ( not seen tyel's and jomouse's posts yet -sorry).
Have been feeling awful - incessant headache ( caused by epidural according to MW - she says drink loads, esp caffeine. If it gets worse you can get a blood patch at hospital -seeing her again Sunday) and engorgement - ouch! I could deal with the after-op discomfort alone, but all three are miserable! Discomfort means sleeping is difficult - whenever I get a chance. Sad
Alistair had a problem latching onto flattened out swollen boob, so I manually expressed and fed with a syringe last night and earlier today, but we managed to latch again this afternoon. Grin
Alistair is doing really well. Slightly jaundiced, and only 5% weight loss -probably due to the nutrition feed at hospital.
Arnica is recommended by friends post op (packet ssys: for those suffering bruising, muscle pains and swelling after contusions.)
Hope you're all happy and well post- and pre-popping! Good luck to those still waiting. Love to all. X

aethelfleda · 15/12/2011 19:38

Hiya, all quiet here still sigh. have decided that cleaning is actually a good idea (along with a spicy curry takeaway for dinner). If it brings things on, fab. And if not, I like curry, and will have a slightly less grotty house.

DH has been chilled about being delayed from work today, and finally moved the furniture around in our front room this morning: we're hoping to get my piano moved in sometime in the next few months so that I can maybe get some low-key first piano lessons for DD1 (she's been asking, promise I'm not a mad pushy mummy!) so there is a piano-shaped space there now, yay. We are in a mid-terrace but neighbour one side is a trumpeter and the other side seem slightly deaf so hopefully with piano against a non-party wall we'll get away with it!

Pompoms are wiggling gently, and darcies, if you've not had any progress you'd better PM me an address for that Mars Bar!

DarcieandSnowballsmum · 15/12/2011 20:44

Aethel nothing yet, odd twinge but nothing of importance - hoping something happens overnight - will let you know in the morning Grin

Hopefully the curry works for you tonight Smile

mopsytop · 15/12/2011 20:56

I'm with you on the cleaning aethel - bathroom cleaning didn't do anything to move things along but at least I have a sparkling bathroom!

kri5tycringle · 15/12/2011 21:02

Congrats plu and jingle lala hoho tyel sorry its all in one go... I have only just read the news!

msb you're allowed a hormonal stress, especially as you have been through things before!

sleighbells we haven't tried the towel :) do you just place it where his head would be, rolled up, under the matress? I think Saul is full of mucus too, the health visitor is here Monday so I'll ask... thanks hun!

oi I am so sorry, it must have been so upsetting for you, and heartbreaking. He is still a miracle, and echos of other people, he will be fine as he grows up big hugs hun ... I can recommend the blood patch, I had to have it, but it was instant relief compared to what felt like the worse hangover ever.. keep an eye on it to see if it gets worse x x bless you x x

plu your catch up posts always amaze me and make me feel guilty as I just cant keep up!! I'm hoping its just colic rather than reflux, and giving him plenty of tummy time in the day.. great tip about the sling!

msbaublestwinkle · 15/12/2011 22:15

plu we're spending a lot of time speculating on eye colour too! Both big DDs have blue eyes (DP's are blue, mine brown), Miri's eyes are much darker than theirs were as newborns.

oi sounds pants, hope you get a better nights sleep tonight!

Thanks kristy, I have ishoos left over from DD1's newborn days which manage to stress me a lot! She was hospitalised for jaundice treatment, then caught an infection while there.

sevenswansaswimming · 15/12/2011 23:07

Congratulations to those with new arrivals, I welled up reading Mr Tyel's post.

Good luck to those in various stages of labour and labour dust to those still waiting.

Eva still has her heart murmur, though the doctor said it shouldn't be anything to worry about and that they'll check again in a few months time. She was weighed today and has put on a massive 12oz this week, now up to 6lb 7oz.

airofhope Eva is now 3.5 weeks. My 'proper' bleeding stopped last week but I still have some occasional blood-streaked discharge.

My mum really annoyed me when I spoke to her earlier by expressing her concern about how DS is with DD. He keeps trying to kiss her, I know he wouldn't ever try to hurt her but he doesn't quite realise how fragile she is. Even so, does she seriously think I don't tell him he has to be gentle with her? Angry sorry, rant over

LittleMissHumbuggery · 16/12/2011 00:21

Good evening ladies. I'm gently poking the pompoms for those of you still suffering. I'd love to do a plu and be able to mention you all, but I'm having issues remembering my own name at the minute so am staying safe and keeping it relatively vague:o

I'm not in much pain now, but comletely spaced out on the co-codamol. Dentist had no luck tracking down what has triggered the pain, my mouth apparently looks utterly healthy. Two theories are compromised filling in a molar and wisdom tooth shenanigans. Unfortunately neither can be confirmed without an x-ray, and policy is that I can't have one, even though the chance of harming the baby is practcally impossible at this late stage in pregnancy as he/she/it is fully formed and just laying down some fat reserves. Dentist is as frustrated as I am. She has suggested I come off the painkillers to see if the pain has abated on it's own. I will take my last dose tomorrow evening, as I would rather be in pain over the weekend if the pain is going to come back. If it does, I'm to note where it starts, then monitor the pattern of pain if I can and for as long as I can before resuming pain relief and ring for an appointment first thing Monday. I love my dentist, and am gutted that she is jobhunting at the other end of the country due to the ineptitude of the company who run the practice:(

Sorry. Long winded and whiney. Off to hug a cat then head for bed.

Hopefully tonight is a good night for you all, be you mid-hatch or mid-latch:)

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KateKringle · 16/12/2011 03:59

LMH That tooth pain sounds rubbish, hope things improve soon.

Seven Great news about Eva's weight gain. Feel free to rant away, my Mum often comes out with irritating helpful comments like that too!

Well I've been having contractions about every 10 mins since 4pm. Managed a few hours kind of sleep and now they seem to be coming in intervals ranging from 5-7mins. This baby seems determined to give Mummy prolonged grief so no idea how long this will drag on. My Mum came over last night just in case we needed to dash off and she was needed to look after DD. The tricky decision will come in a few hours when she's due to go in to work.

Just to let you all know that once I do go to hospital I won't have MN access so don't expect any frequent updates!

Hope things are progressing for Darcies aethel and anyone else I might have missed

aethelfleda · 16/12/2011 07:53

Ooh, good luck Kate!

LMH that is extremely sucky! Hope those teeth behave soon. I know it sounds like underkill but can you try a local anaesthetic gel like bonjella or merocaine lozenges from the chemist just in case they help?

aethelfleda · 16/12/2011 08:02

Oh and nothing going on this end- arg- I guess was a false alarm. I'm still a bit twitchy about DH going into work but there's not really enough going on to keep him home, so think I will have to let him go in. Sigh.

DarcieandSnowballsmum · 16/12/2011 08:12

LMH That's pants about your teeth hopefully will be better soon.

Aethel Had some twinges in the night but nothing now....boo. Would be handy if I went into labour after 2pm today. Darcie is going to mums overnight so would be ideal really save all the rushing around so am planning to be on my feet alot today Smile

AnAirOfHope · 16/12/2011 08:26

Morning everyone

HV said i can't BF on demand as i have a toddler and if i ff then the baby would sleep longer at night - no thanks i'm feeding on demand. Then she told me to make an appointment with the mental health nurse as i have depression that is medicated but "i'm too happy". I'm happy cos i have a 2.5 week old baby girl that i have always wanted and my family is happy and complete and i'm looking forward to our future together! But cos i have depression i'm not allowed to be happy and as i had PND with my first i need to talk about the difference i feel from him and my DD! I didn't tell anyone until Air was 16 months and i had a complete breakdown and i never negleted my child just myself, so for her to say it will be different this time as i will be more attached to Hope and play more with her than Air is stupid as i did play with Air!

She just has no idea and she does not know me and just looking for stupid things to put me down about. She asked if i couldn't cope with doing houswork and looking after two children and if Air had been out at all during the week and if he always ran in circles in the living room - i think she was hinting that he has ADHD or hyperactivity and its no he is just 2yo ffs.

mopsytop · 16/12/2011 09:25

air your HV sounds like an idiot, if you ask me. What kind of advice is that? The NHS is supposed to be promoting breastfeeding FFS. How unsupportive. I would make a complaint about her in fact. And "too happy"? WTF? Honestly, she sounds like an incompetent ASS!!!!!! I am getting super annoyed on your behalf here!

mopsytop · 16/12/2011 09:25

I would write all this stuff down and make a formal complaint actually. She shouldn't be allowed to come and visit you. She sounds like a bit of a bully to me. Can't they send someone else?

fusam · 16/12/2011 09:32

Blimey AnAirOfHope some of these HV's seem to be determined to single handedly tip women over the edge. You are doing fabulously, ignore the old cow. Snort at too happy ffs .

Congrats to all the new babies! Mr Tyel, you seem like a gem of a DH, congratulations on the birth of your son.

Plu you are now my shero and your thoughtful and epic posts always make me Grin.

I am going to go in to get checked out this afternoon as I am still having a lot of pains that lead nowhere but baby movements have been reduced.