December 2011: We've got big bumps and we cannot lie (down comfortably)

[LittleMissFlustered]

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Shake those bumps ladies.

And squeeeeeeeze

I was LittleBlueBoat, EDD 5/12

cheep here's hoping that things get going properly soon.

seven hope some of this stuff works for you. Must admit when I read all the advice you're getting I keep thinking how lucky I am to have found this antenatal thread with so many experienced women with great advice.

I think I massively overdid it yesterday - I must admit I was sort of hoping it would get labour started so when I started feeling the SPD pain returning I ignored it and carried on, and now am worried I've done myself a mischief.

I went into London to meet my parents and escape a second day of fire alarm installation, which was lovely, but involved walking a mile to the station, train to Waterloo, walking through the Christmas market on the Thames, up and down umpteen flights of stairs in and around the South Bank Centre and the National Theatre (we saw Comedy of Errors with Lenny Henry as Antipholus of Syracuse which was one of the best productions I've ever seen, bar none - highly highly recommended!). Finally (this was the bad part) when I got to Waterloo after the play the train was leaving in 45 seconds so I sprinted for the doors - got caught in the last door but forced my way on. In my defence the next train wasn't for 30 minutes and would have got me in past midnight - and old commuting habits die hard!!

Anyway when I got home I was in serious pain - SPD pain, not contractions - had to take a lot of paracetamol to get to sleep, and woke poor DH up in the night groaning in pain so he woke me up and fed me more painkillers. This morning I couldn't walk to the bathroom without his help I still can't move either leg independently - I have to use my hands to lift my legs up and out of bed!! So it's bed/sofa rest for me today.

cheep doesn't she mean in her unqualified opinion children do not have the ability to choice to stop breastfeeding or to choose to go in their own room and that attachment parenting does not work as children need to be guided

There are 100s of books, many written by professionals who are far more qualified than she is on this matter that would completely disagree with her.

Not to get too lentil-weavery on you but it sounds like the situation with your SW may be blocking your labour from progressing; easier said than done but you need to let all the negativity they threw at you go & focus on yourself & your baby right now. Ok, so that does sound very lentil-weavery, doesn't it.

Gods, cheep what nonsense! I'm sure you don't need the reassurance but DD1 stopped bfing all on her own aged 4 and moved into her own bed (yes, at her own choice too!) at 4 as well. I agree with honey, brain stuff can get in the way of labour, can you write down (brain dump style!) everything they said that is bothering you, then follow it with all of your own thoughts and feelings on why AP is a good thing? Sometimes putting it on paper can get it out of your head!

good idea msbuggy I couldn't think of a way to do it...baby brain...but now remember during hypnobirthing class we had to write a list of all the things that were bothering us & then do a fear/emotional release visualisation to get rid of them. I know you're not hypnobirthing cheep but if you think it might help I could PM you the details of the visualisation if you think it might help...a bit long to post on here :) Really helped me...gave me the confidence to cut ties with my mum for the time being which has been the biggest stress reliever.

Aaargh! Just threw a plate in the bin...WTF is wrong with me today !!!

cheep I'm so shocked at your SW. No good advice, just amazed that she could be so far out of step even with the NHS guidelines on breastfeeding and co-sleeping. My GP even recommended baby wearing and co-sleeping in a side-along cot for as long as we feel comfortable! Why the hell do our taxes pay for an NHS breastfeeding helpline that's open 7 days a week if breastfeeding is something causing you to be referred to social services??

And then when I think about the horror stories you read in the news about children being genuinely neglected and abused because the social workers are overloaded and have too many cases to deal with...oh it makes me so furious

tyel rest up!!! It sounds like you had a fab day, but it now sounds like you're paying for it.
cheep - good advice from honey and msbuggy, I can't offer more - other than saying the SW is not on this planet! Her opinions are so old school - she shouldn't be allowed to work in her sector!
Good luck!
Reflexology pokery, sex, squats etc seem to have had no effect so far. GingerBaby is making no signs of quitting his comfy nest. Grrrr!!

They give a bullet point list of why i was refered to them and most of it was from over a year ago and some points are n/a. I have gone thru it with DH and we are going to put in writing what we think of each point and what we are concerned about. I'm not worried as i know i'm doing the best for my children, i just need to show them that. They cant do anything as i have not done anything wrong. They are just discrimiating agenst us as i have depression (PND) and my DH is disabled.

The HV was under the impression that DH does nothing to help with son or the house but they never asked me or him. DH does 50% of everything. They didn't ask him to sign the CAF form so they are ignoring his parental responisblility for son and when he called HV to compain she said she refered us to ss and the CAF form was not needed but then the SW is working of the CAF form only i signed. Its just shockingly unprofessional IMO. Also no appointments are put in writing, no minutes of meeting are handed out and no agendas sent out and half the people who should be there did not get an invite.

Pains getting worse hopefully not long now.

I have been looking at the moby wrap and think i might give it ago.

Does anyone have any recommendations on books about having a newbaby and a toddler? Or raising siblings?

Oh also the WHO recommeneds bf until at least 2 years old. You would think a child professional should know this? The world avage age for co-sleeping is 5 yo.

I think i should tell them to go reserch it before condeming parents for following best pratice from international health organisations

cheep given how ill-informed she sounds I bet if you mentioned things about the WHO and world averages she would say something sniffy about not doing it the way those people do it in their mud huts in the third world...

Honey sorry I shouldn't be laughing at you throwing everything in the bin but it is hilarious

Best siblings book ever

It really does sound ridiculous cheep can you complain to the head of Children's services? I had great success doing that, and have had an Ed welfare officer made to re-train for dealing with Home edding families as she was hopelessly ill-informed about the law!

It does sound ridiculous cheep, completely nonsense. Writing down what you think of each point is a great idea.

Now, this thread will DEFS be full by the time I get back, so what's the new name going to be for the next one so I can locate you all?
Just had a lovely pedicure. Feel lovely and relaxed!

Bee hugs from me too. I agree with what everyone else said, and suspect it might be your DH's reaction to the stress of your imminent new arrival. Sounds like you're bringing up DD beautifully to me.

Cheep hope things start to progress for you

Seven I didn't mix feed DD but did need to express early on when she was in SCBU and stopped feeding, and at later stages when she was in hospital for operations. I always got on fine with the hospital pumps, and had no joy with my home pump, so perhaps as others have suggested hiring a hospital grade pump may be the answer.

Another pretty crap night for me, but I've had a productive morning because DH has the day off and took DD out. She's now moved into her new room and I've sorted out the nursery. Just washing all the sheets and blankets for the Moses basket and then we'll be ready for DC2...watch it stubbornly refuse to make an early appearance now

Heading off to an NCT friend's house to play this afternoon, so that should be fun. Sadly found out yesterday that another NCT friend just lost her second baby at about 12 weeks and is having a D&C today :(

New name for thread, how about "scratching, hatching and latching" as we all seem to be at one stage or another?

Cheep Sounds like your getting great advice from everyone regarding your incompetent SW etc. And about birthing this baby :)

Oi Keep with it, I'm sure Gingerbaby will make an appearance soon.

Kate Thinking of your friend today.

I'm so uncomfortable its unbelievable. Also everytime I cough I feel like i'm going to be sick :(

Need to wrap some xmas pressies but so not in the mood. However, need to stay upright - gravity and all.

cheep I didn't realise a second labour could be so much longer than a first - starting to dread the idea now!

DH studies part time and was looking after DD two days a week (my mother did the other 3) until I dropped down my work days at the start of September so he didn't have to look after her much. His days with her generally seemed to consist of watching tv in our room with her away from all pets, bathing her, putting her down for her nap, then collecting me from work - so not very stimulating, but very 'safe'. Yes, I think it might be new baby anxiety, plus his studies and perhaps the need to socialise with other human beings. Hopefully he will leave me to it all when new baby arrives.

Was off the thread completely yesterday as was Christmas shopping in afternoon and away to wedding last night but boy has lots been going on!

Good luck to all those going into/on the verge of going into labour. My baby seems to be far too comfy right now to move despite me doing my best on the dance floor last night to shake my bump up a bit. Baby is probs still stunned and having a gentle sleep!

Bee watching tv vs long walks in fresh air - sorry, I just can't get my head around how DH thinks your parenting is irresponsible! It seems madness - like others have said perhaps just a stressed out reaction to imminent newborn.

cheep hope things start to progress soon!

I managed to express a full 35ml for Eva's last feed! Thanks for all of the great advice, I was just being a bit over-anxious. Just very frustrating to sit up expressing at 5am for only 10ml!

Uurgh I feel even worse as the day goes on, really off/odd - weak dizzy and wobbly, really sick and so much pain when I walk (no identifiable contractions tho). DH is convinced it is actually food poisoning , no idea how that is possible. Cant bear to read or watch a DVD.
Going to try and sleep but pain keeps waking me up when I change positions.
Wish it was actually labour so at least I would feel I was getting somewhere! - as it is I just feel horrible for no discernible reason

Tyel I kinda feel that way too, So my sympathies. Just like you I wish it was turning into labour. Try and get some good sleep. I however, am off on the school run shortly.

Seven Well done on expressing 35ml - keep it up

seven Woo! That is great, and I am totally with you on how frustrating it can be (I expressed for DD1 for 12 weeks!).

Tyel and darcies here, have my spare contractions! They aren't terribly exciting, but as I am not having a baby yet they are going spare!

Msbuggy As long as they are labour contractions i'll take them please :)

seven I found a bit of gentle massage of the old boobs before expressing helps gets things moving. And some hand expressing at the beginning and the end. Will let you know if I think of anything else.

I'm knackered it took 40 mins walking around the park to get ds to sleep. Having a well deserved rest with a cup of tea and masterchef

Done the school run. I know walking is a great way to persuade baby to think about making his/her entrance into the world but my is it uncomfortable :(