January 2012 - The one with the heartburn, kick counting and bump-gropers losing their hands...

[shonnomanom]

There we go, a nice new thread.

The BIG Question??? Will the first baby arrive during this thread???????

Now Debs no one likes a show off seriously though, well done you for being organised!

I can't get the rest of my bag/baby bits until 3rd December so there's little I can do now.

I have my 34 week MW appointment tomorrow, really hoping she has some idea about this abysmal rib pain. Had to take painkillers before I could contemplate getting in the car this morning.

Taking Dd to see the local Christmas light switch on tonight, she is so excited about christmas this year so she'll love it

oooh found this recipe and it looks quite virtuous too. yay. www.deliciousmagazine.co.uk/recipes/low-sugar-low-fat-flapjacks Going to try it later.

giraffe I so sympathise with the rib pain/rib flare it's horrible. It's been the bane of both my pregnancies it seems. Theres nothing they seem to be able to do.

Thankfully mine doesnt hit me til later in the day but after having had such a stinking horrid cold all day monday I now know that the only solution is to lie down all day. I had NO rib pain monday night after spending pretty much all day in bed or lying on the sofa. Great practical solution, huh! But i just wanted to extend my sympathies xx

is anyone else having CONSTANT movements? I was awake from 2am yesterday morning until 1am this morning with non stop movements, all day yesterday in work. literally, they didn't stop. All on my right side.

Honestly, it's one extreme to the next! the only way I got any peace last night, was to give in and lie on my right side , which I know isn't ideal and I was worried I was squashing the baby into stopping moving!

But it's started all over again this morning. so uncomforable. It's def better than no movements though, so I know I shouldn't complain, Just so uncomfortable all the time. even just sitting still or lying down, or walking, or anything...!

Thanks fish I've had it for weeks now but have been trying to sideline it but it's getting worse. I wake up in the night convinced that my rib has cracked and is sticking through my chest

This flapjack talk is making me hungry, I made carrot and walnut cake muffins yesterday, may have to sample one

Mia my bump is constantly going too. DH has started calling it 'Happy Feet' instead of Jellybean at the rate my belly is dancing.

DD didn't move this much at all. Really makes me wonder what kind of a personality this little one will have.

mum2be that childcare place sounds lovely. Wonder if I could go there for a holiday too.

Can anyone remember what week it's ok to take raspberry leaf from? I bought some capsules yesterday (the tea tastes yak) but theres nothing on the bottle about it and I can't remember if it's 34 or 36.

Those of you who had already washed baby clothes, how are you going about getting them dry?
My tumble dryer is stashed in the back of the garage and not really usable. But if I dry the babygros on the clothes airer in front of the radiator they're not going to be soft are they?

re: raspberry leaf. The advice seems to be that in order to allow you body to build up supplies, you can start with one cup/tablet a day from 32 weeks then gradually increase.

cool thanks giraffe better start then.

For some reason i'm a little bit afraid to. weird isn't it. I think it goes along with my head in the sand philosophy.

I have a lovely cinnamon and maple syrup flapjack recipe. Its usually crispy on the outside and soft in the inside. Might make some today if I find some energy.

I thought I was organised until I read your post debs!

Had 34w check up this morning. Mw said bump is measuring 38cm! She also thinks that baby is breach, head up. I told her how the mw at triage couldn't decide 2wks ago. But todays mw said the hb sounded louder at top of bump. So iv to go for a scan on Friday and have also been referred to consultant to discuss the birth plan.

Really hoping that we get a peek between the legs on Fri! Fx

Hope your all well and those in discomfort are getting rest x

shonno please please please-they sound divine!

Oh dear-I thought i'd just pop into AIBU while i was having a little lunch break and I have just accused someone of being a snob. Not my style to be provocative on MN usually, must be wanting a fight. I don't even go on AIBU normally.

GiraffeAHolic am only organised as this is my 2nd bubs and when I hit 37weeks with bubs 1 I couldn't walk....oh...and my hubby works overseas...only been in UK for 9 days since Jan 2nd so don't have anyone to help ( cue violins ) me in the run up to Xmas...Poor hubby is only coming back when bubs is en route ie my labour starts ha ha as we want him home when bubs is here rather than risk him coming home for leave, having to go back and and missing bubs' arrival!!! His new firm doesn't do paternity leave.......and he is only starting with them this Sun so hasn't been able to stash up a yr's leave to take at one time !!

Trying not to think about going into labour all alone......arghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

fish back away from that thread now - it's all going to go horribly wrong on there any minute....

Annoyingly I found a really good recipe online t'other week, but the anti-virus thingy restarted my computer before I copied the recipe. Doh. Would love your recipe though shon...

This looks like it might be similar though...

250g Porridge Oats
125g Butter
125g Brown Sugar
2-3 Tablespoons Golden Syrup (Depends how gooey you want it)

Melt the butter, sugar and syrup together, stir through the oats, add any extras (sultanas, nuts, chocolate, whatever) put in a greased or lined tin and bake for about 20 mins at 180 or until golden brown.

Oops, forgot to say - made one maternity pad - now en route to making three more. It seems good and comfortable, if not that pretty. Will post a photo later - the stitching is all a bit messy, but I figure noone is going to see them anyway!

Oh - and I've never found things to dry badly if left on an airer by a heat source, in fact that's the only way I can dry them now it's cold and damp outside! If things are a little crunchy you can always scrunch them about a bit between your hands, it'll soften most jersey items.

Yes Cakes its quite similar.

125g Butter
125g Demerara Sugar
5 tbsp Syrup (the original recipe calls for Golden but I didnt have any once so used Maple and its sooooo much nicer!)
225g Porridge Oats
1 tsp Ground Ginger

Melt Butter in pan then stir in Sugar + Syrup. Add Ginger and Porridge and mix well. Press mixture in to tin and bake for about 20 mins @ 190. Leave to cool for 15mins then score into wedges. Break into wedges once completely cool. Enjoy with a

oh fish that thread is going to get very messy best to stay away from it

mmmmm ginger flavoured flapjack....

Oh do you know what, my head is a mess today. Just realised that I said cinnamon earlier on when I meant ginger [muppet]

yummy it doesn't trigger labour, it strengthens the uterus which is in turn supposed to make contractions more effective when they do come.

ghosteditor

I'm on maternity from 2nd December until 16th July. Peanut will be cared for, for one week by my parents and then we're off for the 6 weeks holidays. He/she will go to the childminders from the 1st full week of September. So he/she will be 9 months old.

(I am hoping that DH will see the benefits of me going part time instead but only if I can have Thursday and Fridays off but that will depend on the head agreeing to it and of course DH. We could afford it but it would mean budgeting and waving goodbye to our Easter holiday. Something DH cannot grasp - AT THE MOMENT!)

FISH just read the thread. I've put my size 9s in it before but it's not WHAT you say, it's how people INTERPRET it.

I agree that some people can be 'snobbish' about the centres because they're not used to socialising with 'real people'.

I haven't used mine yet but the hub I went to when I was 8 weeks pregnant was used by a lot of younger mums who clearly need the support. Having said that, I work as a teacher in a deprived area and MOST mums of the 'non snobbish variety' and 'need the extra support' choose not to use them or are too intimidated by people like OP or simply do not know of their existence. it's sad really because I think they'll do far better for society if EVERYONE used them (and it would stick two fingers up at the coalition who want to scrap them!)

I thought these centres were derived for the sole purpose of supporting parents who would otherwise struggle but with an aim to be accessible to all?

If the OP has a problem then she has a choice - don't use them!

AAhhhhh I just swallowed the Google pill. Naughty Sho!!

I had good intentions, power is knowledge etc.

Just wanted to look at options for a breech baby and looking for PGP friendly ideas to turn the baby. Think its an area of too much, very detailed information.

Stepping away from Google now. . . . .

Hehe! Haven't we been a chatty bunch. Before I go into why I've been AWOL, I've skimmed through and have managed to pick up on the following (apologis to anyone if I've missed anything).
Parsley Congratulations!
fish I hope your cold/other associated crap's feeling better today.
ghost re: Higgs Bosons, I hear you. My tale below will enlighten you as to why.
debs feel free to whine about pg related aches/pains/screaming agonies...I'm certainly about to.

Advice for all.

GET YOUR BAGS PACKED FOR HOSPITAL NOW!!!! It really isn't too soon. Met a Mum in latent labour at 22wks, one with waters gone at 32+6 and me...who wasn't in labour, but they didn't believe me totally, at 31, so please, be prepared! As it was I didn't do a bad job of making up a temporary bag for me last minute. Though thankfully I didn't need baby stuff, as my delivery date for it all isn't until 5th Dec. BUT they won't let you out of hospital until baby would be considered term (35-37wks) anyway, so weird though it is, baby stuff is less important than yours for now.

Entonox in large quantities makes you VERY VERY dry throated. Some of my vommiting was due to my tongue feeling so thick I felt like I was cholking (no way in hell I was giving up the entonox until I had to though).

Anyway. Some TMI, but, well, what the hell. Rant start:

So, it just wasn't that simple Saturday. Yes, I did have IBS, but as it turns out a vuscoius UTI... Sat lunchtime the pain just got worse, and worse, and worse. Ate very little lunch...with made it WORSE...vommited...and pain got...rhythmical...rang triage...who told me to call an ambulance. Manic bag packing (adrenaline is wonderful)...call back to say ambulance can't get to us for a while, can we drive in. Yes. OK, but ring ambulance if I start needitng to push, waters break, or I get worse.
5 mins down the road I'm being so violently sick because of the pain we pull over. Vommiting copiously, hanging on to some railings by a swing park waiting for an ambulance (I figured from how shit I felt DH must be frantic. Didn't want him driving). FOURTY FIVE minutes later the ambulance gets to us. I'm blue-lighted through heavy traffic to Stockport. They give me entonox, which kinda only helped when I breathed enough to make my hands go numb. But otherwise they were very good. In the delivery suite (yup, the were that worried) I got the 1st steroid jab for Abi's lungs and, pethidin, and something for the nausea and a VERY painful speculum exam. Cervix was tightly shut thank god. No sign of waters breaking. Pethidin also didn't work very well, so managed a whole tube of entonox in about 90mins, and then they woulnd't let me have more. About then I "gave up" and just sobbed I think. CTG showed pretty strong Higgs-Bosons, so they kept me in delivery for quite a while (overnight). Abi was stressed but OK (reacting to me/my BO rather than any issues of her own). I was probably completely fucking BSM but didn't feel that out of control, just IN PAIN, and couldl hear everything they were saying. They also then gave me the 2nd steroid dose fo Abi - seriously large injections in your ass. Hurt a fair bit.
Eventually the pain dulled and with copious codeine (yes, you can see what's coming, can't you) I was moved to maternity (antenatal). Despite me repeatedly saying I was constipated they kept me on codeine. HBs were still fairly strong, so they inisted on keeping me in until they weren't rhythmic and THAT strong (hitting 50s for those that are interested in numbers).
So, Monday PM we concluded that being constipated wasn't helping (but they were still giving me codeine) and they gave me lactulose. Yesterday (shit, is it only Wed) Dr went slightly BSM and really cross that they were still giving me codeine, so that stopped and buscopan was prescribed. We also decided yesterday to start with the pesseries to un-bung me. HB have calmed considerable, but are still happening when the pain's bad.
Today, 3 pesseries later and NOTHING...(see, told them I was constipated) I've been sent home with buscopan, paracetamol, antibiotics for the infection, lactulose and prayer...have had some success since but not basically 6 days worth of emptying success. Still don't see why I can't have an enema, but they won't. Still getting HBs but they're peaking at about 35-38 and am still in fair amounts of pain. I won't be shaving my legs any time soon, or lifting anything, or sometimes getting out of bed...but hey-ho. I'm much calmer and Abi's much more bash-happy though is currently kicking he shit out of where it hurts.

I'm to keep going with all this, and visit the clinic next Thurs. If I get worse of the HBs come back rhythmically/stronger I'm to call an ambulance...(and wait 45mins?!)

On the plus side, two of the Mums in the ante-natal ward with me (one UTI, one bleed) within 24h both had their lovely babies - 1 girl, 1 boy ptretty much at term. They were soooo damn teeny and cute...kept reminding me that it's worth cooking them for as long as you can in your tum. The 31wk Mum with lost waters was allowed home about the same time as me. THe 18wk Mum was allowed home! 1 left, who was only 31wks, and is hoping to last another few weeks, but her previous 2 babies were born prem at 28wks and 32wks, ..no real reason why...she'll be in until LO comes out...so another remider to get my bags packed properly!

I'm off to attempt another bowl movement and have a bath (blissfully pain relieving) and a decent sleep.

TTYL assuming nothing goes tits-up overnight!