June 2012- thread 2 nausea, secrets and extreme (hunger) excitement.

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I know how you feel Jj. Haven't told my MIL for that very reason. She'll think that I put dh up to having three and that I have ruined his life.

starlight snap! Because of course a grown man couldn't say no/abstaine/use protection.

Dp texted his mum told her and added, couldn't tell you face to face after how horrible you were last time! She was ok but didn't say much, obviously holding her tongue!

I find it all very boring, its our life, its our decissions why does everyone feel they can comment and drag us down!

I have to say that not having to tell XMIL that I'm pregnant is so so nice. It hasn't stopped her moaning at me about it but as I'm no longer married to her son it's none of her damn business!!

I don't know. I think for us that no.3 is a special child as it is the one only the parents wanted iyswim. No-one has any hopes about the child or expectations, particularly as I have one of each sex already. They're all a bit 'meh' and dh and I feel that this one is OURS iyswim.

Dunno if that comes across as a bit wierd.

Mini... hope you feel better soon. Sounds horrendous :(

Starlight... how was Egypt? I'm off to dahab in 10 days and can't wait. Dh is hoping my morning sickness will attract the fish :/

I'm still off work with flu thing and have realised just how much I love drugs. Going without is hell! Saline nasal crap and vicks vapour rub do not replace some good strong chemicals. It's probably best I'm not at work as hormones are mental and I'm crying at anything. Poor engineers would be terrified of me! I'm an honorary man at work and they get nervous if I do anything girly. Dh just has to put up with it :)

Food wise I am with the savoury camp. Marmite on toast or gnocchi. and laughing cow cheese. Yum.

Does anyone else's symptoms seem to get much better then much worse? Saturday I couldn't keep down water, the last 2 days almost no sickness? Weird. My booking in is next week. I guess I can ask mw then.

mini, hope you're okay.

Starlight, glad to see you're back & had a good hols, apart from the fag smoke. I have to walk through a smoking area between buildings at work and it is gross.

Jj, you've got some lack of support there, haven't you? Hope DP is on our side.

I just feel, and maybe I'm wrong, that this time nobody will be bothered. Also, my Dad told me that his wife's daughter is pg again for the 3rd time, in April. They live close by each other but a couple of hours from us, so as they'll have 3 compared to our 2, and as Dad's wife is closer to her daughter than Dad and I are and as Dad barely sees us anyway, I kind of feel "what's the point" of telling him as he'll probably not see much of this one either. Absent father, totally. Nice bloke, just hardly see him these days. He's busy with his other grandchildren.

And DH's family will just say, "Oh, that's nice. Did I tell you our Sheila got a top for £3 in Matalan yesterday?". Or similar.

It's not like I want a parade, but the collective familial "Meh" will be slightly disheartening. I'm looking forward to telling the office more.

Got to go, DH was giving me some time off but I can hear him snoring so I may be back on duty...

Tbh dp has come across utterly emotionless.

Right now I'm just in a bubble with MY pud, the dcs will be over joyed and after all they are the most important in my honest opinion. Maybe after the scan he'll change I don't know.

Hopefully a weekend with sil, who I'm really close to, will bring him out more as she's 4wks behind me. And it will mean I finally have a real person to talk to about it.

Ill put my tiny violin away now. Me and dp are having a rough week, health issues for him and a year since my grandma died and I've told him I'm putting the wedding back a year.

itchyfootedladly my symptoms are a little better today. No nausea really but still very tired (should I be worried?) I'm 10+1 today. Last time round I think nausea etc lasted until week 14. Yesterday was ghastly. I retched when DD did a poo ( I have to sit in the bathroom with her and read stories) and she said 'Mummy what was that?' and I lied and said it was a sneeze that wouldn't come out!

JjandthebeanplusPud I am also on cake making duty for DD's 3rd on Sunday. Also family over for a roast but at least DH will do the majority of it. I'd have been happy with party food but parents have to have a roast on Sunday!

Evenin' all.

mini - hope you're okay.

So, just a quick update on my booking in appt before I head for an early night. Midwife was really lovely but unfortunately I came away feeling very .

I'm being referred to a consultant because of my weight (BMI was 37.5 when calculated). Home birth is not advised (I know they can't 'stop' me having one, but if I do something that isn't advised, I'll feel just as stressed at home as I will in hospital) which is the real issue as I feel very anxious in hospitals when I'm not there for an emergency situation so didn't want to risk impacting labour with that anxiety. I'm confident I can resolve the anxiety issues but would have liked to not have to work on those at the same time I'm managing pregnancy / preparing for birth.

Need extra folic acid because of weight so have to get a prescription (wonder whether it's worth it at 9 weeks as neural tube related development is earlier in pregnancy I believe even though we take folic acid up to 12 weeks, so any damage is already done, but will take it anyway). Might need extra iron / vit d depending on what bloods show. Will need test for GD. Will probably get extra growth scans because of weight. Shouldn't have been eating peanut butter as I'm asthmatic and shouldn't use a treadmill as it's not recommended in pregnancy due to balance changes (it's my only form of cardio exercise). Declined the option of a referral to a dietician. At least my blood pressure was good - ironic really as I've had problems with that in the past !

Anyway, there was much crying from me and the lovely midwife kept saying how she really hadn't meant to upset me or offend me, which I know (appreciate it's my own fault all of this needs doing). So, I await results of blood tests for everything under the sun, a date for a scan & combined test which should be wc 05/12 hopefully and off I head to bed for an early night to try and get some perspective.

Appreciate none of this is actually bad I'm just wallowing in self-absorbed negativity and that most of the above can be flipped to a positive, but it got to me. So, today I wallow, tomorrow I snap out of it and revert to the eternal optimism that drives people mad.

Night all - hope you've had good days and sleep well.

nov dp does the roasts in this house too, but its not happening, it will be a typical party tea mainly because none of my side ever help when they desend so I don't want the washing up of an extra 10 people!

SSC sorry to hear it left you feeling glum, every problem has a solution so I hope you find one that makes you less anxious, and happy :)

Sorry your booking in was a bit doom ad gloom Ssc. For what it's worth I am not avoiding peanuts and I am asthmatic. I had read that hte whole no peanuts thing had been dropped as there was no evidence to suggests it makes a difference

SSC, Try not to fret yet about the homebirth thing. There is more than your weight to factor in and with all things being equal it coukd still be the most sensible option and safe depending of course how your pregnancy progresses. Indeed, your weight could actually make a homebirth the 'better' option and path most likely to lead go an optimal outcome. We can fm about shy thus might be later when you're not feeling do raw.

Also you might like to consider a midwife-led unit in hospital grounds. It might look like it isn't an option but you'll surprised at how minds can change when it becomes the 'compromise' after insisting on home.

Just don't feel deflated. You have more options than you think you do and whilst weight can lead to complications it is very rarely the weight itself that is a problem and there is no reason yet to believe there will be anything else.

Also, make sure you insist on bigger cuffs for you blood pressure readings as the 'normal' ones can give false 'highs' for larger ladies.

Hth

OMG -- how can i possibly begin to comment.....?! Eeeeeek.

Okay, here goes (from memory):

Starlight - Welcome back, had been looking for you! Very envious of Sharm, I love it there and wish I could go, just the thought of a car journey makes me ill let alone plane flight had to laugh at 'smokers paradise' Egypt would be one strange place if smoking bans were in place!
itchyfoot - I haven't been to Dahab since the 90's, must've changed a lot. Hope you have a blast.

SSC - Please don't feel down as you say tomorrow after a good night's sleep everything will seem so different. Just tired you are, huge hug x

Thank you for warm 'moving home wishes' -- finally getting somewhere!

I did not vomit today
Currently craving vegetable samosas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am going to be such a fat arse.

So many comments but can't remember them all....ooooh miniangel let us know how you are please.

Bedtime xxxx

Hi all
Mini hpow are you, please update us as we are all worried for you.
SSC don't feel too down, and ye look forward to tomorrow being a new day, there are many options still to look at, don't feel negative, look for the positives, we're all with you
Kveta and Fireflies, I don't really have much energy but you don't have a choice when you work full time, 8am - 6 ish and then have to come home to cook etc. It's been like that since April when I moved back to the UK from Germany and DH had to stay in Germany. Now that he has gone further away, it hurts cos I can't see him, but as for my routine it hasn't changed. I am so looking forward to my maternity leave for a bit of a rest . I will take at least 6 weeks off before the birth to truly rest up before learning to cope with 2 DCs. tbh I am quietly crapping myself now, wondering if I will be able to cope with 2. Anyone else feel the same???
At my booking in appt I wasn't asked to name where I wanted to give birth, could it be an area thing??? Maybe I will be asked at the hospital or at my next mw visit.
Hope everyone is well today, take care and stay safe xx

Thanks for the warm wishes everyone. I am happy to report that the scan went well and both my kidney & Peanut are fine. I am so relieved.I just have to get better now so I get outta here.

Hope you all sleep well.

seriously sorry to hear your booking in appointment don't get to downhearted by it. You still have along way to go I am sure when they see you are fit and healthy it will all be up for debate they are just following protocol for now.

Had my booking in appointment today very uneventful, but glad I am in the system.

Hi all

Haven't caught up with the thread properly but hope everyone is ok. I too am muchas jealous of your holiday starlight and I totally feel you with regard to the smell of smoke, it knocks me sick if I just pass someone in the street that's smoking - bleurgh!!

SSC sending you a big hug and as everyone else said, don't be downhearted, as time goes on if there are no complications you might still be able to consider a home birth.... and, as Starlight said, could a midwifery led unit be a 'middle ground' option for you?

I told my uni today (I'm a student nurse, albeit a 'mature' one, lol!) they were really nice and supportive, so that's a weight of my mind....

Oh, and I was sick today for the first time - threw up all my dinner! Just wanted to share that lovely image with you all (sorry!!) I was pleased in an odd way, as I've not had much in the way of symptoms so far (9 weeks tomorrow).

Sleep well all x

Mini, that's fab news about your scan - hope you make a speedy recovery.

Seriously, hope you feel very much better tomorrow. Really no treadmills though? And who knew that about peanut butter?

Thanks to the folk who commented on booking-in experiences. So it looks like it's usual not to be booked in until you've got birth preferences sorted:) Kveta, good point. At the last booking-in appointment they did all the notes When I was undecided, but the choice was between home birth or hospital. I've now moved and the choice is not as straightforward (although still within the same county).

Morning all!

Right, pointless self-pity party over. Nothing like a good temporary wallow to make the world a brighter place the next day! Thanks for the kind words folks, really appreciate it and I promise not to be so self-absorbed again. As I said to the midwife, knowing my luck it'll turn out to be twins and the whole hospital / homebirth debate will be a moot point anyway! Weirdly, I think I'd be okay with the hospital if I 'had' to go because of twins, if you know what I mean. Mid-wife told me not to joke about these things .

Dalrymps - re the peanuts. I think you might be right. I double checked before I ate them and thought it was okay. DH has checked online this morning (he knows how much I love my chilli peanut butter) and the info he found says it's okay. Interestingly, having looking at the info in my pack, it's over 2 years old, so I'm now taking the 'screw it' attitude - chilli peanut butter and cheddar on pitta bread remains a valid snack option for me!

starlight - yep, might still be an option for homebirth. Failing that, I'll pack my entire lounge into a couple of suitcases and get DH to drag them along with me - make the delivery suite a real 'home from home' . Re blood pressure - yeah, I'm making sure I always ask for a manual reading too as the automatic ones do not work well for me!

ecstatica - you were right, I was tired. Absolutely knackered actually; much better this morning. Well done on not vomiting! The vegetable samosas are giving me ideas actually....and leading to thoughts of vegetable spring rolls too....yum.

dogwalker - you'll be fine with two. Easy for me to say, of course, not yet having one! I'm sure you'll find a routine that works and after a while they'll occupy each other so you might even get the odd moment of relative peace...maybe!

mini - really glad all is well. Good luck keeping the hyperemesis under control - must be horrid.

Florin - glad your appt went well and you're now in the system.

emblosion - glad Uni were supportive; great not to have to worry. Sorry you've thrown up; might be a one off, you never know!

Twiglet - the treadmill thing is weird. I did tell her I only walk on it (decided not to run on it whilst pregnant) but still wasn't encouraged. If I can get my cross-trainer fixed that'll give me an alternative, but otherwise I'm going on the treadmill regardless - will have to be careful, but I'm not just going to sit on my ass all day for the next 7 months!

Right then, last few days give me hope the nausea is receeding to manageable levels and have slept passably well for a couple of nights on the trot - could it be that life is returning to a semblance of normality?

Best go to work I suppose so see you later all - have a good day!

PS - I really need to learn to write shorter posts...sorry!

Seriously I have to say I was pretty sure that if you had asthma then you had to stop eating peanuts but the nhs website said only stop eating them if your health care professional tells you too. So just tell the MW you have stopped eating them and she'll be none the wiser!

I have my booking in appointment at half 10. I'm looking forward to having my notes as I found them really interesting before.

Hope everyone is ok.

Actually going back to the nhs foods to avoid. Who is going to eat food with soil on it? I would have thought most people would wash it off first?

Morning everyone! The joys of a hefty dosing of calpol kept my two sickly children in bed until 8am, which is a small miracle given they went to bed at 7pm!! Aside from all the coughing and spluttering I got a decent amount of sleep for the first time in weeks!

Kayzr we get lots of our veg from our smallholding, and its not always as 'soilfree' as youd want (ie little bit in cracks in potato. Never been that fussed, but now having to scrub for england to get it all completely spotless.... also having to be extra careful with our eggs and meat. Bit of a pain really...

Dairymps re peanuts, the advice has relaxed as more recent studies showed it didnt make much of a difference seemingly! Same with raw fish, and rare meat.... there are ways that they are ok too (if the fish has been frozen, and if the meat is a steak or joint, not rolled). Unfortunately my tummy still thinks sushi will kill me, judging by the rate it got rid of it!!

SSC Glad you are feeling better this morning! Youve got the conversation out of the way now, so it should be more under your control from now on?

Emblosion Congrats on throwing up ....

A MW (not mine) told me the other day that third births are the worst ('everyone knows', well I didnt)! I just assumed that as last time was a joy then I had a good chance that this one would be too...... anyone else heard anything about third births??

Green yup I've been told that the whole third pregnancy is the worst and that labour is certainly the worst. After 2 simple, no intervention births I am hoping to buck the trend!!

The bloody MW has just rung to cancel my appointment again!!!

She will hopefully come to the house at the weekend to do it.

I'm really pissed off as for the second time I've had to ask their dad to have them and then had to tell him that I don't need him too.

Wow, I've honestly never heard that 3rd births are the worst I just assumed the more babies you have the easier and quicker it gets I have heard that if you have a really big gap then it can be a bit more difficult than if you'd had a smaller gap as your body kinda 'forgets'. I'm hoping the fact I haven't got a big gap will work in my favour.