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Nov 2011 - almost time to push!

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TerrysNo2 · 12/10/2011 19:07

Last thread was full so thought I would just start this one off - hope you don't mind as I know I've not been a regular but god forbid you guys having nowhere to chat ;)

Right, caz what's happening, I am stalking you all over the shop and need more news :)

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Staceroo · 22/10/2011 11:11

Thanks MrsA i thought someone might pick up on that point because i know weve talked about similar situations before. I think its because I already have 5 days to carry forward to next year, which means I won't have taken my statutory minimum number of days off in the year.

Its really confusing, because they bought this in recently. You used to be able to carry forward loads of holiday, but now you have to take a minimum of 2o something days a year, which means the most I can carry forward is 5 days. And this means I loose anything more than that which i don't take. I didnt think it sounded right either, because the idea is to ensure we take a minimum number of days, but if i loose the holiday days, it doesn't stop me not taking my minimum!!! Hopefully it wont matter anyway! Think baby girl should stay put for the week (maybe!) Grin.

If she does come early I'll get you to help me word my letter to work fighting my corner! Grin

Staceroo · 22/10/2011 11:13

voodoo I think you should do it! If I didnt have this next week as holiday i think id be doing the same!! (and I'm 37 weeks today)

You've enough going on at 38 weeks to be worrying about work! x

Katiebeau · 22/10/2011 11:34

Voodoo just do what you need to do. Working in a stressful situation is the last thing you need when you are so far along.

Welcome home Willow - great news. Grin

Congratulations to Folic and Cali. More squiggly baby cuddles.

Glad your MW is working out well for you MrsA. Reassuring.

All gone quiet here. Gutted!!! I was sure it was starting. So fed up now. Too big to sit on floor playing, going to the park cripples me. Feel like a crap Mummy although DD delighted to snuggle up on sofa and just read a million books.

On the phone, will try and catch up properly later. Chinese take away at mine tonight with my NCT friends from when DD was due. Must take ranitadine before meal.

Just seen a little baby girl in a pumpkin outfit. Too cute!

Getting quite excited about the birth now. Fear seems to have gone after good chat with consultant and midwife. They promised me under no circumstances would they let me "loose the plot". MW was really reassuring re using breathing hypnobirthing etc to keep calm and I'm so lucky she will be with me throughout.

Consultant busy making sure he has some more pain relief options for me than G&A this time should i want it. And if I don't need him apparently he's great at rubbing your back!!!!

DH bricking it now though. He doesn't want a repeat of last time. 2nd will be shelling peas though, right? Hmm

Sorry, long post. Will take notes next time I read through the thread to name check properly. xx

Katiebeau · 22/10/2011 11:35

Staceroo if you cannot carry over they must pay you and also include the bank holidays which occur in your ML as well.

voodoomunkee · 22/10/2011 11:58

Re the hols like Katie says they have to pay you what you are unable to take! I got special permission to carry extra over last year due to circumstances outside my control. This year I'm carrying 5 as I'm not going to be able to take them before next Friday.
I'm jealous of your fab sounding consultant! Mines left the hospital now. Mw's seem pretty cool though so am happier about that. Good that you are able to feel relaxed a bit more

MrsArchchancellorRidcully · 22/10/2011 14:37

Ooh yes, don't forget about bank hols ladies! They accrue whilst on mat leave and you tack them on at the end. And 2012 is a brucey bonus - we're getting an extra bank hol due to queens jubilee so you get 2 at xmas, 1 new yrs day, 2 at easter, 1 in may, 2 in june (I think - or 2 in may, 1 june can't remember) and 1 in august. I also get 3 days xmas leave so all in all get 12 days to tack on the end of mat leave (as I go back after aug bank hol ) before I've taken any annual leave at all. Then I have to take 22 days annual leave between mid sept and xmas eve next year! Result! I reckon I'll save em and work a 4 day week using hols :)

voodoomunkee · 22/10/2011 14:59

Good point! Lots of bank hols next year really. I'll be job hunting soon as I logistically can so it probs won't make a massive difference to me!

PamSco · 22/10/2011 15:04

Yay Cali well done - excellent news on the lack of tearing and welcome to the world little Abigail. Gorgeous names.

Willow now no fighting with your brother now you are home :)

I've set up a very clear calendar of intention for my boss showing my OML and AML with holiday accrued and holiday taken. I'm very lucky as our place does a phaseback scheme (for those in bigger organisations check out if they do that) where you are on your normal FT pay but only work a couple of days a week for a month or so - to phase you back.

I think I have saved wnough money to take the extra unpaid leave so I plan on teh full year plus holiday plus phaseback, so the calendar says... I work for 6 days next December. Woohoo! Well I think "woo hoo" now but maybe I'll miss it? It just doesn't seem real at the moment.

Maternity bag is being packed today.

knockedupagain · 22/10/2011 15:22

Poppet How lovely that Willow is home! So pleased for you!

cep · 22/10/2011 17:37

hi ladies, lots to catch upon after not being on for a couple of days.

Congratulations folic and cali enjoy your cuddles

poppet that's fab news so pleased she's got to go home now.

welcome franchini congratulations.

katie sorry it all slowed down, fx it's a sign that baby won't be long now.

Caliphora · 22/10/2011 17:40

Home! What a ride...

I woke up with 5 minute spaced contractions lasting 30 sec to a minute on Thursday. Got to the Ante-natal clinic and started the induction at 10 am - they immediately told me it would take at least the two pessaries, and the registrar (the one who I had an argument with last week) and midwife had a very dismissive attitude - Apparently my contractions were "fixing pains" and I couldn't possibly have done it on one pessary - not even if I had actually started labour myself before we even got there... Luckily the evening shift brought a new mw who was very sweet - as I hadn't dilated at all over the day we put the second pessary in but agreed not to break my waters before I had dilated further - even if that meant waiting until Friday morning. She understood my concern that once my waters were broken I'd have a very, very limited time frame to get through labour before CS would be on the cards.

At 6.30pm I was transferred to the ward and DP and BP waited there until visiting hours were over. I was now having VERY strong contractions every 3-5 minutes, and cried big elephant tears as DP left the ward - I've never felt so alone in my life! Luckily I had my own room on the ward so I could just focus on labour and not have to be sociable with strangers. I had a shower which helped the pain a bit, then paced up and down the corridors for an hour until the midwife asked if I shouldn't rest a bit - I laid down on my side, had a contraction, and then my waters broke - around 11.30 pm. I screamed so loudly out of the fright - mws ran in and immediately gave me G&A, then I screamed at them to call DP - I was very, very scared at this point, mostly by the thought of having to do it myself.
My contractions immediately became rawer - dryer if it makes sense - but the G&A -really- took the edge off. The mws sent in a poor auxillary to keep me company - I was now so high on the gas that I gave her the motivational speech of a life time (talking about how mothers love us because they knit us together in their wombs etc) - and then DP arrived, groggy and surprised but probably running on adrenalin, because he was so supportive.
At midnight I was transferred to the labour ward, straight to the delivery suite. The MW who took over my care was an awesome Manc lady with short hair and tattooed arms - really, really lovely. DP took her to one side and explained how I work to her - and what the pain management plan was, etc.
I still hadn't dilated, so she started preparing me mentally for an epidural as she couldn't see me coping with the syntocin - we strongly resisted. I was so angry at the G&A nozzle in the suite malfunctioning, and the contractions getting stronger despite not dilating that I now started to think it would all be lost to a CS, but then she did an internal to see if she could fit an electrode on Sprouts head to get me more mobile, and I was 3 cm... Two hours later I agreed to pethidine, as they couldn't replace the G&A - but I was 5 cms dilated by this point, so I escaped the syntocin! The pethidine took the edge off contractions so I could relax between them for another two hours - but asked for another shot only two hours later. That obviously not possible, but the registrar suggested diamorphine instead, so we went with that - and they made me relax so well that at 7 am I said "She's coming! Time to push!". The MW said "no no, not yet", so I waited two contractions and then said "No, really, she's coming out!". The MW frowned, did an internal and completely non-plussed said "Ok, next time you contract, start going with the pushing urge - you're 9 cms!"
And I did. I pushed. And puuuushed. Two hours, which felt like 10 minutes, to be honest. The midwife was really good at directing my breathing, and I've never seen anyone be so enthusiastic/liberal with lubricants. DP got bitten and scratched plenty during pushing - I was on my side for most of it, and the MW constantly warned nurses helping of my SPD - I felt so safe, again relaxing me even more, even though in the end I was pushing through some very weak contractions that hardly felt productive.
The shift co-ordinator took my BP at this point, and I was 170/125, so I was swiftly given tablets - she then tried to take my BP every two minutes - and the MW abruptly ordered her to only do it when she told her she could. She also kicked out the MW who first saw me the morning before, as she had come in and stood at the end of the bed commenting like some bad nightmare stressing me out. DP was excellent at helping me push, and my birth partner, who'd stayed in the back ground until now, was really good at helping DP to cope with emotional flapping from me.
Sprouts head was stuck quite a while half way out, and she started getting a bit stressed, so I was moved around to sitting up right, legs against MW and a nurse - and it worked - two pushes later she flew out in one go - what an odd sensation! I felt so empty, but so good!
She came straight onto my chest (I'd laboured completely naked), but was taken away immediately as she wasn't taking breaths - quickly rectified.
The umbilical cord had a true knot in it - and the placenta wouldn't come out.
In the end they got a young doctor in who stuck his hand up and just scooped it out - no frills or bedside manners at all, but I was so happy it came out!

The next 24 hours was spent in a coma of breasfeeding, crying and sleeping - and now we're home! Her head is bruised and she's been prescribed paracetamol as it makes feeding painful for her, but otherwise we're good. I'm very anaemic, but just so pleased I can have her here with me.

voodoomunkee · 22/10/2011 18:07

Ah Cali, thanks for sharing, sounds a pretty lovely birth story despite the bruising etc. So pleased she is here safely and well done you! Awww.

alicat10 · 22/10/2011 18:14

Wow Cali, that's a pretty intense story - well done you for getting her out by yourself and huge congrats on the arrival of Abigail Isis Marie.

Folic congratulations to you too & Lizzy if I haven't said so already!

Yay Willow hope you're settling in at home :-)

Welcome Franchini

Well I'm just back from some monitoring at the Day Assessment Unit where I saw some absolutely fab MWs and a doctor (helped that they weren't ridiculously busy for the first time ever). After a couple of days of making me anxious junior obviously produced a perfect trace with best movements I've had for a few days (following a firm palpation by the MW). They have suggested I go back tomorrow and have arranged a scan for Monday which is so reassuring.

PamSco · 22/10/2011 18:30

Wow Cali that is some birth story. Well done. You can both heal through the power of cuddles :)

We used our borrowed doppler for the first time today because I was curious - The Boy is break dancing and all over the show. A lovely hb of 142 which has been his hb at every appt. I guess he is just energetic today. I got OH to do it - he seemed to enjoy that.

MamaALaMode · 22/10/2011 18:31

hello,

i've been stalking this thread for a while now - I'm so in awe & in delight at the beautiful support you guys all have for one another - i'm 38+4 weeks with my first & had thought it would be almost rude to try & join in so late with such a strong group (& another similar site told me in no uncertain terms i could sod off go elsewhere when i tried to join at six months!) especially when you have all been through such tremendous highs & the kind of lows you just wouldn't wish on anyone, & also, some areas of Mumsnet are a bit, er, brutal, aren't they? so i was nervous, but you guys are so not like that! - but if you guys set up a post natal group, please may i join in then? or.... although my EDD is 1/11/11, i think Bumpalicious will be fashionably late in her arrival so if any mamas-to-be feel they might like another waiting preggers girl to chitchat with here, then please let me know & i'll join in now. either way, you guys rock!!

KellyKettle · 22/10/2011 18:41

Welcome mama - of course you can join us. Post away! When are you due? Add yourself to the stats thread too.

Cali your birth story is fabulous - well done you! I'm glad the stressy-MW was kicked out of your delivery room.

Are you home now? How are you both? Pics on FB?

I have finally typed my birth story for MN (virtually same as FB version but obviously no names).

It's lengthy - here you go!

Ok, finally I'm posting my story!

So you know I'd been losing bits of plug and had a show. DH stayed home from work on the Friday when I had my show just in case. We had a nice day as a family, got some last minute bits and went for lunch.

On Friday evening my brothers came to visit, we all sat around eating pizza and chatting. I had some awful Braxton Hicks which seemed to freak out my poor SIL.

DD and I went to bed really early. I'd been awake since 3am and felt exhausted. DD woke me at 1:30am for milk. She nursed for an hour by which time I was having contractions so I told her I'd have to stop.

She hadn't eaten much the day before so DH took her down for breakfast (at 2:30!) and I dozed between contractions which were roughly every 15 mins. I found them manageable bit I still had to breathe through them more or less from the start.

At 5am I thought I'd check on DH. He looked exhausted but DD was happily playing on the sofa bed. So we swapped, he went to bed and I sat up with DD. She asked to feed at 5:30am so I fed her to sleep, which fortunately was very quick and then dozed next to her on the sofa bed.

I was still having regular contractions but was coping. Eventually I got up and made a cup of tea and emptied the dishwasher.

I think it was about 8am when I decided to just give my MW a headsup and text my stepmum asking if she would watch DD for the day.

I told the MW not to come out yet (she's 40 mins away). We got DD dressed and she, very reluctantly, went to her grans. Actually, she was very upset and I felt terrible about sending her away. I had one more contraction and then it all just stopped. So then guilt set in for sending DD away in tears and changing my step-mums plans and waking my MW.

DH and I decided to walk to the shop, about a mile and a half each way, to see if it started things again. It didn't. We got back at about 9:30am, DH made tea and toast and we cuddled in bed and slept until 11:30am which was actually lovely!

At about half 11 I was woken by quite a strong contraction and jumped out of bed to breath and lean on the wall.

We'd already partially filled the pool and put the cover on. We came downstairs, pottered around, had some lunch. The contractions were still every 15 mins so I just thought it was slow labour/false alarm .

By mid-afternoon I was finding the backpain a bit much so DH suggested a shower. It was brilliant at helping my back pain so I stayed in for ages. I asked him if he'd called the MW and just get her to check the baby's heartbeat and position. I also asked that he call my step-mum and ask for DD to come home.

I got out of the shower and he came in and said MW was on her way and that DD was sleeping but would be home soon. Stepmum mentioned she'd had a fall when climbing to get a balloon and banged her eye on the table.

DD (2.9) arrived home just before the MW got here. Her eye had some blood crusted in the corner, was almost swollen closed and just black. I was so devastated and just sobbed. I'd sent her away thinking I was going to have the baby that day and for nothing. No baby, massive black eye. And you know when you just know it would have been one of those moments when your child just wanted you.

So I was sobbing quite uncontrollably when they MW arrived. She was really calming, hugged me and said "these things happen and she's fine now look". I was glad she was there.

So this was 5pm. She observed a few contractions, felt the baby (still LOT and slightly oblique, not engaged) but HB fine and I was ok (urine, bp etc).

DH made dinner for us all but I skipped it and continued to contract every 15 mins. At about 7.30pm DH took DD for a bath and the MW asked what I wanted her to do - leave me in peace or stay. She said she'd do whatever I wanted.

I really couldn't decide. I knew I wasn't in the zone because I was chatting between contractions and generally doing ok.

She suggested I get in the pool (which was till 40 degrees despite being filled hours before). I said it felt far too early to get in the pool and I was worried it would slow things down. She said if that happened I could just get out.

So I wandered around the house collecting lamps for the kitchen and the MW set up the resus stuff on the dining table.

I wasn't quite sure what to do, do I strip off or get in with a top on... I decided that if she hadnt seen my boobs by now after me breastfeeding my toddler at virtually every visit then it would be a miracle. And anyway, she was going to see it all soon anyway.

So I got in naked. It was 8:30pm. The pool was lovely. I just floated around a bit and my contractions slowed slightly at first but after a short amount of time they picked up again.

I found them much more manageable in the warm water but still felt they weren't getting to be anything like "real labour". At this point the back up MW arrived and I was a bit surprised because I thought I was going to be ages yet.

DD appeared in the kitchen with DH really upset. She wanted to get in the pool. So in she got, she loved it. Bouncing around singing "I'm deep, I'm deep, I'm deep!". But she wanted to bounce on me when I had contractions and it was too hard so I asked DH to take her out.

I laboured a bit longer and she appeared again, really sobbing asking for mummy milk. I was going to say no but I could tell she was tired and thought if I could feed her to sleep I might get some peace.

I got out of the pool and had a contraction. Out of the water was so hard. I fed DD on the sofa and had 3 contractions in fairly quick succession.

I eventually said I couldn't take anymore and she went upstairs with DH. I practically dived back into the pool.

I don't remember much after this. Contractions were still ok, didn't feel closer together but my notes say they were 3 in 10 mins.

I started to shake, my legs were uncontrollable and I remember laughing and telling the MW. Then I felt a bit sick so she passed me a bowl. I wasn't actually sick so I dismissed any hopes of it being transition.

Then suddenly I felt a bit pushy. Only a bit, and mentioned it to the mw. She didn't seem surprised and said to just go with it.

The next thing I felt this massive thing in my birth canal. Wow! I hadnt really thought about what it would feel like to feel the baby move down. Then my body just started pushing. It was such an intense feeling, I was quite surprised and my contractions hadn't got as bad as I anticipated so I had expected to be hours. I hadn't even got to the gas and air!

She seemed to move down fairly quickly and then I felt her crowning. Then she popped back in. The MWs encouraged me to move from all fours to lean back into a squat. She crowned and popped back in again and then with the next contraction her head was out.

The MW asked if I wanted to look down at my baby's head or touch it - something I expected to do - but I was so surprised she was almost here that I couldnt do it.

I noticed that DH and DD were there watching and went back to closing my eyes.

The MWs then encouraged me to stand for the next contraction which pushed her body out and seemed never ending and then out she came!

I vaguely noticed the MW unravelling the cord from her neck and then she told me to lift my leg so she could pass the baby underneath to me.

I sat back in the water and someone suggested I have a look at what I had. I admit, at first glance, I thought she was a boy and was a bit confused when DH said a girl after I said "is it a boy?". The second stage had only been 20 minutes.

I cuddled her in the water and was just a bit stunned. It was 10:55pm.

After 20 mins I wanted to get out. I stood to get out and found my leg muscles so exhausted and cramping I couldn't get out. DD1 was stood waiting for me to get out and said "mummy your vagina's wet". I had to sit back in the water because laughing made my contractions worse.

I stood again, got out and out came the placenta, caught in a potty by a quick-reflexed MW.

I was examined on the sofa: 1 degree tear and a graze. I opted not to have them stitched.

DD1 asked for milk and to go to bed. So on went the paper knickers and I walked DD1 upstairs to bed while DH carried DD2.

It was midnight now so DD1 fed to sleep in seconds and I got into bed with DH and DD2 while the mw made tea and toast and tidied up. It was just lovely. DD2 latched on really easily which was something I'd worried about.

DH & I couldn't stop talking about it all and we eventually went to bed at 2:30am. He went and slept on the sofa bed and I had the kingsize bed with the DDs.

I think I am still on a bit of a high from it all. I keep crying at the thought of not seeing my mw again. She's visited quite a few times and is coming again tomorrow.

So that's it, sorry for the delay! It just took so long go write because I'm not particularly concise!

cep · 22/10/2011 18:44

cali thanks for sharing the story, and congrats on taking her home.

mama welcome and congratulations. You're more than welcome to join in now if you wish, there's still plenty of babies to come and lots of chat with them.

have we set up an post thread yet??

cep · 22/10/2011 18:46

oops x posted.

kelly it does sound lovely. was dd not scared seeing you in pain?

KellyKettle · 22/10/2011 18:54

CEP she wasn't actually. She was upset that she couldn't get in the pool but was was just fascinated during the second stage - and I wailed a fair bit. Blush

She did tell me later that she saw the baby come out of my bum...hope she doesn't come out with that little gem at play group Smile

juststarting · 22/10/2011 19:16

Evening all. Welcome to Abigail and well done Cali! And Poppet, I can understand your mix of feelings, but congratulations to you too. And welcome to our two new comers - I am sorry, I am RUBBISH at remembering everyone's names and way too tired to go back and check, but I say join now, why wait. I'm going to be here all by myself for ages I think! 35 weeks today. And Never, mine is also still right where she was - Who posted the baby turning link? Thanks for that. I will look at it on a day when I feel slightly less like my stomach has no valve at all between it and my throat.
Had two very busy days here - yesterday doing my regular day AND preparing for DS's second birthday party today AND having my dad here to put a new radiator in with all the disruption that entails in the room to be used for the party today. And then today the party. And overnight, DS decided to develop a bad bad cold, so I got about two hours sleep, and, well, basically I feel CRAP all over now.And I fear I have another rough night to look forward to - he was ok for most of his party and then the fever kicked in half way through lunch, bless him. He's ok right now, but its been a day of "mamma mamma mamma". WHich is how come I ended up up with him most of the night instead of DP. Its hard not to respond to that when you are in some basic way capable of offering him some comfort.
Anyway, sorry, feeling very wingey of late. Just in a state of permenant exhaustion. Still got another week at work and then a mountain of uni work to get through too. Nature is a crazy thing, to influct insomnia on women just before the most tiring time of their lives. I have to say Kelly, I was cheered by the image of you and your DD's snuggled up together. Doubt it will be like that for me - much as my DS is a snuggler, he is, er, a vigerous snuggler. THere is not a lot peaceful or relaxing about a snuggle with him.
I need a rest and a kick up the backside, I feel so negative right now.

TwoJackRussellsandapumpkin · 22/10/2011 19:21

mama, welcome to the group, boo to the other forum how ungenerous!!!

I've been keeping an eye on the antenatal threads, but no-one has started one up yet, therefore I shall do one when I'm done with this message, something along the lines of it it being for the November ladies, even though it's October, can't promise anything fab for the title though....

Thanks for your stories Kelly and Cali hope you are both having a well deserved rest!!

TwoJackRussellsandapumpkin · 22/10/2011 19:28

postnatal thread here

Have started a postnatal thread, link here, but still planning to pop into this thread and say hello as and when something exciting happens :o

TwoJackRussellsandapumpkin · 22/10/2011 19:29

Oh and just, hope you feel better soon

voodoomunkee · 22/10/2011 19:38

Welcome mama! Doesn't matter one bit that your joining 'late', nice to have joiners!
Kelly wow your story is lovely and seems so calm! Congrats again to you.
I was thinking a post natal is needed but it seems to far away to me. OH asked me to keep her in a little longer so he could at least finish his new job training, I don't think my head rotated fully exorcist styleee but it can't have been far off! So now he's ordered curry for us all and ran me a hot bath.... So I shall be off to sit on the birthing ball, drinking milk to soothe my excruciating heartburn and awaiting x factor so I can heckle some awful singing!

Poppet45 · 22/10/2011 19:56

First up welcome to the group lovey! Find a seat and we'll get the cake and some raspberry leaf tea.
Kelly my lovely what an amazing birth. I loved the bits about your DD, so funny. It sounded just beautiful and calm and so empowering - everything I'd always wished for. But no more babies in this camp as DH really can't cope with the terror my labouring always seems to be accompanied by. I'm v good at the dealing with the pain bit, its just the delivering a baby without putting one life or another in jeopardy I'm crap at. Anyway there are other dreams for our wee family these days. Am still wistful though. Am in awe of all those ladies birthing their babies - much respect to you all.
Cali well done you too me dear! A very different birth but wow at your stamina and courage. Amazing, amazing, amazing.