Charters Anonymous Graduates Volume 2! – No more temping!

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A nice cosy place to accommodate our growing bumps and little wrigglers.

Lady I've been mainly trying to make sure I sleep on my left and trying to avoid leaning back in chairs, and doing plenty of hanging forward over my birth ball etc. I'm a bit wary of the inversions and things on the spinning babies site, I'm not sure why, I just don't feel comfortable about it.

Congratulations on registering your little lady, that must be lovely Great that the feeding is going so well, and a big ouch to the stitches. What painkillers can you take whilst bfeeding?

Anyone else spotted terrys blog is one of the featured ones on the right of the screen? I feel all proud and like I know a famous person

Lady just seen your pic of Iris on fb. What a beautiful baby, lovely dress too!

Aw thanks, Spilt. . She is rather yummy. But then I am biased.

Don't be afraid of the Spinning babies stuff. We do the inversion stuff in yoga. You can do a less extreme version by just being on your knees resting head on floor IYSWIM. Stay like that for 10 mins or so if you can (and have no blood pressure issues). Should just encourage baby to pop back out and come in again at a better angle. Hopefully will turn anyway.

If you have a desperate need to get your skirting boards clean that should do a similar job. I also found labouring on all fours when back was hurting in labour was brilliant.

Ah lady your little lady is Ver pretty x

Spilt congrats on reaching term x

Well Bp back to nearly normal... No protein in wee ;) hooray! But, being sent for a breech scan tomorrow as the dippy cow Mw couldn't find the head! Either so low down it's engaged already (hence peeing every ten mins!) or it's turned ;( she wants to be safe than sorry! I think it's not breech but still curled up like a snail! Will see tomorrow x

Paddling pool was rather yummy at sunrise.. So was the cool wet grass on my poor feet!! Proper catch up later x

Hi all, are you all sweltering? Nix I would kill for a dip in a paddling pool...in fact, I may go and buy one even though I don't have any children yet! Hope your scan was ok today and baby's turned? At my last two appts the midwife hasn't been able to tell which way round the baby is - next appt is at 34 weeks and am hoping she'll be able to tell by then!

Spilt, Getdown and Iwish I know what you mean about the shopping, though today I managed not to spend anything on the nursery which was a miracle! I did, however, have a hilarious (and very unglamorous) time in M&S finding knickers that will take post-labour-bump+maternity pad. Cue me taking photos of myself in the mirror wearing giant pants that come up to my armpits and sending them to DH with comedy captions

Lady how are you doing? Wish I was on FB so could see a pic of Iris! Hope you're feeling well and so's she.

I've been feeling a bit meh about one of my friends recently and I don't know whether I'm overreacting. It's more of an AIBU question, but I'd be terrified to post there! She's a good (and old) friend but has always been very tactless; usually it's fine because I tell her so and we end up having interesting discussions about whatever the topic is, but at the moment I'm too hormonal to be rational I think! Basically, I hadn't seen her for ages and she came to stay last week; within 5 minutes she'd asked 'How long did it take you to get pregnant? Ages wasn't it?' which made me go , really just because it was so out of the blue. Then, later that evening, she asked whether we'd had the tests for Downs etc. We said no, as we'd decided it wouldn't make a difference to whether we'd carry on with the pregnancy. She was very sceptical and started saying that babies with Downs should really be aborted because they'd have such bad quality of life. I pointed out that there are worse things than Downs, and worse things for parents to deal with, and repeated again that anyway, we'd decided not to test and that was that. She wouldn't let it drop and went on and on about it and then started on abortions, and how if you found out your baby was going to be disabled you should have a later 'deadline' by which to abort, at which point I told her to shut up as I didn't want to think about abortion! Am I being hormonal and silly? She KNOWS I've had a miscarriage, she KNOWS how much we want this baby and how long we tried for it, and yet she was sitting there talking about killing babies to a heavily pregnant woman . I personally do believe in the woman's right to choose, and I also believe my friend's entitled to her opinion, I just don't want to hear it while 7 months pregnant! Anyway, the long and short of it is that it really upset me and I've been snappy with her ever since, because I can't forget it. Do I just need to get over it?

Sorry this is very 'me, me, me'. Hope everyone is ok - especially those I haven't mentioned (naughty and haven't read everything posted as am knackered).

Pip YANBU (ha, never written that before, never posted on AIBU!). She is entitled to that opinion but sprouting all that to a pg woman and not letting go is beyond tactless! I have one of those friends (with tact chip missing) and everyone (including me) forgives her her daft remarks and just thinks ah well that is X for you. But her most recent one to me was a corker "so WHAT number pg is this for you?" Knowing I haad had some mc trouble but not knowing the full extent.

Thanks raven, that's good to know. I feel very hormonal and emotional at the moment and don't want to be a cow! Will take some time to cool down before I get back in touch with her. Your friend sounds priceless as well-what a horrid thing to say are you sure we don't have mutual friends...?!

pippa I agree YANBU! What a silly things to say. As I'm soft, I would say that if she has never been pg then she may not have a clue she is being offensive but even so.... Sometimes friends can be toxic and bad for your health and you have to decide if they are worth being in your life. Sounds harsh but you have to look after No1, especially when you have a family (and that becomes you're 'No1' IYSWIM)

Nix, hope you feel better and yay for bp being ok etc. Don't worry about breech baby, the vast majority turn anyway. On the very nice HBAC group I'm on, several ladies have attempted breech births and baby has turned during active labour!

lady your photos are amazing and how wonderful Iris is. I hope I can replicate your bf success. I'm a bit worried cos I failed spectacularly to bf DD.

I'm 24 weeks ladies!! I'm getting maternity leave for definite! I'm feeling good too, although aware that from about 28 wks things start to get very difficult. I'm reading Ina May Gaskin's guide to childbirth atm, very empowering!

pippa so it's not just me who was green with at the idea of nix's pool!
Your friend sounds awful. I would have been trying to freeze her out from the start. "How long did it take you to get pregnant?" "That's a very personal question" etc. Though to be fair no one needs to ask me as they all know I lost one baby in October and am expecting this one in August, so they can do the sums themselves! We didn't divulge length of time ttc Bobbie though. None of their business.
She's also ignorant, because the abortion limit for disability is term but that is beside the point. It is really rude and out of order to bang on and on about your decision. It's your lives and your choice and again none of her beeswax. Also disgusting comments from her about disabled people. I would have been really pissed off and upset by that, YANBU!
Step back from her for a bit.

raven people can be so hurtful

Whilst we're at it, I've had a crap couple of days as well. Without going into details it was a throwaway comment from my mum about me expecting her first grandchild, and I can't tell you how hurt I was. I was in tears all Monday afternoon/evening and then on and off all day yesterday and still feel really sad. I did tell her not to say that to me again. But of course she was so upset to realise how she'd upset me and I feel crap for that too. Had a long chat yesterday and patched it up I think. Having a hard time of it at the moment though.
I think it's the impending birth of this one - it's like the world shrinks right down now to just me, this baby, the grief over Bobbie, and the fear of losing another one. And all of those things just get more intense day by day as I get closer to finding out what's going to happen.

Congratulations on 24 weeks MrsA! That's a fantastic milestone. Stay in there for now babyA

Pippa you are so not being unreasonable re. your friend! She sounds like a very insensitive person. As others have said, I would distance yourself from her if I were you, and focus on the friends that support you rather than upset you. . I am learning in life that you can choose who your friends are, and if there are people you'd rather not have in your life, you can do something about it.

raven your friend sounds similarly insensitive too Some people just don't seem to understand the pain of MC do they? Well, lucky them if they never have to experience it.

spilt so sorry what your mum said re "first" grandchild. I can understand how upset you must have felt. It's good that you had the courage to tell her how you felt about her thoughtless comment, rather than just swallowing it and having to deal with the emotions without her realising how she'd made you feel. I'm sure she won't do it again.

Hope baby nix has turned!! I still have no idea what way up baby Getdown is. Got my 34 week appt on monday so hopefully will find out then.

Mrsa well done for reaching 24 weeks! It is a real milestone. So comforting the baby would have a chance from now on. But let's hope he stays the distance though!

Flipping heck I am SO hot!!! Was absolutely roasting yesterday. We had an overnight guest and I had to cook a full meal, do all the tidying away and general hosting stuff and was soooo hot and soooo not in the mood!! Plus I had a terrible night's sleep last night, so feeling pretty grotty today.

Just to let you know that mini nix arrived last night at 11.45pm little boy weighing 7.15.5oz perfect in every way ;)

Waters went, erratic hb and Bp throughout so was dripped monitored and ended up with dramatic forceps delivery sadly cos of falling heartrate but he's absolutely fine now and fab in every way ;))

Tons of dark hair and looks like his brother x

YANBU all round!! It's sad and can be hurtful when people don't think before they speak but I think we are all guilty of it from time to time. But for somebody to be that insensitive pippa has made me go .

nix, how was scan, is baby the right way up? Hope so!

Yay for full term spilt and yay for 24 weeks MrsA!

I am 28 weeks now (where has the time gone?!) and had some bloods done yesterday. Had some results back already and I'm anaemic (sp?) so have some lovely iron tablets to take. Part of the reason I've been so weepy lately is cos I'm so tired so hopefully this will help.

I still haven't done any shopping yet!

Are youg feeling cooler now getdown? I was also very hot yesterday and swelled up but found today much better.

X-post with nix! Congratulations!!!!!!!!

Woo!! Congratulations nix!
Glad he is doing so well now but that sounds like a very scary and hairy time you must have had.

Look forward to hearing the full story when you get the chance. Enjoy your newborn snuggles. Hope you are home soon xx

Oh Nix congratulations! Hope you're both recovering from the birth and enjoying getting to know each other looking forward to your birth story!

And thanks everyone for putting my mind at rest re my insensitive friend-am going to give her a bit of a wide berth for the next few weeks I think!

I meant to say, spilt I'm so sorry about your mum-it sounds like she really didn't mean it and spoke without thinking, but that doesn't make it any easier to hear I know. Sometimes I think life should have a preview button. Hope you're ok.

Oh my goodness Nix congratulations!!!!! And whilst a forceps delivery might not be 'ideal', at least he came out the natural way and not out through the sunroof!

I can't even remember how many weeks you were - enjoy your newborn time and I'd love to hear the full story when you're feeling up to it.

And just big congrats again - wow, we'll be popping left right and centre soon :)

WOW nix - fantastic

So pleased for you. WELL DONE. xxxx

Congratulations, Nix. That's so exciting . Sounds a leetle bit too dramatic but sounds like you are both doing really well now! xxx

Yay for Nix and BabyNix - congratulations to you all So thats one boy and one girl for us! They do feel like our babies or is that just me Looking forward to hearing the name.

spilt so for you that you made it to full term. Sorry about your mums comment - I am sure she didn't mean it and is focussing on the excitement of this grandchild which I think is a good thing. Nothing will ever replace Bobbie or take away from the fact Bobbie existed but maybe focussing positive energy on this baby will be good for you. IYSWIM!

Thanks for noticing I am a featured Blogger - its very exciting as I am getting loads of hits from it so my site is very busy. Please do pop over and leave a comment if you have time, I love getting them!

Poppy is being a pain in the bump atm - I think something awkward is sticking in my ribs as it hurts but in good news, its my last day at work today!!! Got lots of fun things planned with DS - In the Night Garden Live tomorrow, off to a Maize Maze in Oxford on Saturday and then Lollibop on Sunday.

Hope everyone else is well. x

HUGE CONGRATULATIONS NIX!!!!!!!!!!! You must be over the moon to have your perfect little baby in your arms. Enjoy these moments and come back soon with more info!

Am in a really grumpy mood today - had some morning sickness and headaches so feeling rotten which is wierd given I am 14+5 and had no symps before. So your news has really cheered me up Nix!

Congrats nix!! hope you enjoy cuddles with your lovely little one.

4 more weeks to work, can't flamin wait! Feet are so swollen that my shoes are cutting into me or I can't fit into them at all :(
Little one seems happy tho, wriggling away all day so that makes me feel better.

Waves to everyone else. Sorry I'm being lazy xx

Spilt your turn next honey, hope you are feeling good..... and i am lurking waiting for news...

Thanks for the congrats all, sorry for the lack of supportive posting lately, am sooo tired, but elated... and very very sore!!! Two births - one ventouse, and one forceps....

My birth was good really.. waters started to go at 8am went up to hosp due to breech/bp issues to get checked over,,, they didnt let me out! Baby hb was too fast... erratic contracting., too fast hb was due to dehydration due to heat... had to drink 5l of fluid to right it. Was 2cm at 4pm, drip went in at 6pm

6 hours established. Drip went in due to erratic bp and odd hb monitoring for babynix at 6pm as well as erratic contractions. i managed on nothing at all until 10pm until the gas was introduced (then it just made me nasty and paranoid!!) so i had that for an hour. Then it went v quickly and i felt i needed something else... so decided it would be epidural as was only 5cm at that point... and given my history with long labours...thought it would be best... was also best plan for BP. Little did i or the MW know that during the hour it took for the Epi to get put in i went from 5cm to transition... full dilation before the epi took effect, so delivered him with forceps on simply a local anasthetic... Forceps as babys heartbeat disappeared - they got him out in two pushes acted so fast!!! Credit where credit due :) he arrived at 11.45pm on Aug 2nd. The guy who delivered him was brilliant.

I was expecting hideous news watching DH sat in the corner with tears in his eyes...but within minutes he was in my arms perfectly healthy... and robust, breathing fine and feeding perfectly. Spitting image of his beautiful brother.... and perfect in every way!

So it was traumatic at the end, and quite fast... but it ended well and we were home by lunchtime the next day. I learnt something new about myself - that i can cope with pain and that i also become a hideous other person on Gas and Air lol!!! The only downside to my labour was the aneathsetist (sp!) who i could have smacked given the choice.. stood in front of me reeling off the risks/which needed consent etc before she could start, forcing me into a seated position i couldnt cope with for blinking ages! I was saying "just get it in" to which shes replying "no consent, no epidural" silly woman.. then her forgetting her pack and being really fecking arsy... Hence the nastyness.. I think i threatened to smack her at one point cos she was so vile...never mess with a laboring mum to be!! God she was a nightmare.. probably delayed it on purpose to serve me right for being so rude!!

cant wait for news stories for the rest of you ... hopefully you will be more polite than i!

Love and hugs and newborn snuggles to all xxx

Nix are we allowed to know the name or don't you want to put it on here?