Twin's Club 2! All Welcome! :)

[holidays2010]

Continued on from Here
Tried to update best I can with limited info and time, but here's the list on the new Twins Club thread, please update if I've missed anything!

Sassy34264 #2&3 EDD 12/09/10, Lancs, Jacob and Isobel born 13/8/10
strawberrylace #2&3 EDD 1/12/10, Suffolk, surprise Zoey and Lucas born 23/10/10 by c section
jjkm #1&2 ADD 29/1/11, outside the UK, Girls born 25/10/10
Lavitabellissima #1&2 EDD 13/12/10, SW London, Identical girls Born 04/11/10 c section (early 34&3)
smokeybacon #3&4 EDD 25th Nov, Nottingham, Freddie and Tobias born 06/11/10, natural birth after induction.
Jenzopos #1&2 EDD 23/11/10, Charlotte & Anna, Manchester 15/11/10 6lb 7oz and 7lb 5oz
Swazzee #1&2 EDD 02/12/10, South London, Adem 6lb 3oz and Rafi 5lb 13oz 21/11/10
Amberc #2&3, Madeleine (6.3lb) & Isabella (6.11lb) , delivered by C Section on 07/1/11 at 37 weeks, Kent
Thingamajig #2&3 EDD 20/3/11, Cornwall, identical girls Hannah (5lb4oz) and Louise (4lb4oz) born 13/2/11
Magic8ballhastheanswers #3&4 EDD 22/3/11 South London, ID girls born 27/2/11
Cerubina #1&2, SW London, Sebastian (3lb 4oz) and Rosamund (3lb 9oz) born 8 weeks early on 26/2/11 by emergency c-section
Holidays2010, 2 Baby Boys born 06/03/2011
CantDrinkAnyMoreMilk, Scotland, Baby Girl and Baby Boy born 01/03/2011
crazydayz, Thomas and Isobel, born on 28/4/2011 by C-section at 7lb 3 and 6lb 14

Tabbycat76 #1+2 Edd 21/02/11, Suffolk, surprise
VictoriaSecrets #1&2, EDD 17/05/11, Basingstoke, Prob Non-ID twin girls!

Snowfalls108 #2&3 EDD 29/05/2011, SW London, ID surprise
MissyMolly #1&2, EDD 29/05/2011, Midlands, non ID boy and girl
RestingKitty #1&2 EDD 15/06/2011, South London, boy & girl
Propercrimbo #2&3 EDD 16/07/11, North Lancs, not finding out
Brassicababe #1&2, 22/07/2011, Lincs, non-id, surprise
MorningsMadness #2&3 EDD 14/08/2011, Surrey, Non-ID twin girls
MrsStevo, #1 & 2, EDD 23/08/2011, Lincs, MCDA ID
Redshaw, EDD Sept 2011, MCDA ID
Tiggersreturn #2+3 EDD 26/09/11 NW London DCDA - not finding out
DoubleDiffedDachs, #1&2 EDD 5/10/11, Twyford (Berks), DCDA, too early to tell!
Fluter, EDD October 2011, Non-ID
PeelingmyselfofftheCeiling #1+2 EDD ... , DCDA
mybootsaremuddy 6+7 EDD 7/7/2011, surprise
silverangel #1+2 EDD ..., ID

Twin are you finding it easier than you thought?

Dream thats helpful to know any information gathered about big thrid fourth degree tear damage the better.
Do you have any idea which way your swinging .?
I don't like the thought of a cs . But hate the thought of another fourth degree tear and all that entails more.
Esp with it being twins. I have my 12 wk scan next weekend and think ill feel more settled about it all then. As I suppose I'm thinking about vanishing twin, and I did have a scan quite early at 8 wks . But they both had heartbeat established

I also don't like the thought of CS much carrie and was definitely going to try and have a vb before we discovered its twins. I'm scared of retearing and having problems in my 50's or 60's anyway. I think if near term or either breech I'll have CS. Dh wants me to have CS full stop.

Hello all

On my phone so will try ad remember everything!

Tears! I'm wincing at the memory of my internal tearing and how painful the recovery was (cs was a dream in comparison!) so feeling for those with worse ones!!

quemp get a doula - my dh is rubbish in situations like that (he actually told me to stop pushing with ds as he was worried about me!) so I had my mum both time to make sure my wishes were followed!
One thing I would say is that you need to get your head round the idea of all possibilities. I wanted a vb desperately, I knew I had to have an elective cs at 38 weeks due to placenta previa and ended up having an emergency cs at 37 weeks! I was also put of by the sterile environment for vb but had my heart set on it as i didnt want long recovery time with toddler, however I was fearful if one vb one cs scenario as epidural with ds didn't work and in the end recovery from cs wasn't an issue at all and I actually quite enjoyed the experience! Anyway make sure your doula knows your wishes for each scenario (for me for example, I point blank refused to go under ga unless I was in serious danger!

I don't understand delay in skin to skin, I had girls up on my shoulder/face virtually instantly (after initial checks) and skin to skin within 30 minutes after I'd been cleaned up as we were being wheeled back to ward.

twin sounds like you're doing so well, I love those early sleepy baby days.
I seem to have miraculously awake babies and they sleep for a maximum of 2 hours during the day in short 20 minute blocks - on the plus side night times are getting better (down at 8, feed about 1-2 then any when between 5-7) last night Edith-may only woke once at 2 and Ayse-Rose woke at 12.30 and 4.45 so not too bad!

We've had a tough couple of days here Ayse is full of cold and has to be upright constantly, has been really fussy feeding and just screams constantly, Edie seems to have found her whinge cry and ds is lovely but still a worry about his speech! Yesterday was the first day in a long time I just cried with frustration from it all, thankfully today is a better day

hello all

I am writing at the computer today so I should be able to get through all your posts, though I am sure I will forget someone so apologies in advance!

carrie and dream I admire you for even considering a vb, after what you have been through. I am quite keen on natural birth, but mine were very straightforward and easy, especially second time round, and prospect of CS is scary as totally unknown, but in your shoes I think I'd definitely go for ELCS!

twin you make it sound so easy, its great to hear how well you are doing, very encouraging, I am hoping to do something similar feeding wise, I do not think I'll much milk on left breast (radiotherapy) so if I can bf one twin and bf the other and swap them at every feed, hopefully it should work, only problem is may end up with totally different routines as I guess they will both last longer after b/f?? I guess I will have to see when we get there...

dream basically because the cervix is so short(and there is "funnelling" which means it is dilating from the inside, from what I get) I am still at risk of preterm delivery even though it is not considered imminent, as no contractions. Still, if I should walk or stand a lot it would put a lot of pressure on cervix which might give in and kick off labour, hope this makes sense? Hence recommendation to sit or lie and in general relieve pressure from cervix.

I too got into this pregnancy with completely different expectations, and naively thinking I'd just breeze through it, but life has its own ways, and I have now learnt to go with the flow, even though I am increasingly frustrated and slightly depressed about the situation, my house doesn't feel like mine anymore, and dh and I have virtually no time when we are on our own

We are in complete denial about financial situation with 4 kids, I always wanted 3 and it took some work to convince dh about third, felt kind of guilty when it turned out to be 3&4!!!
The dds are currently in a private international school (long story, but we felt this was the best choice for them), and we can just about afford that and some holidays. We certainly cannot afford 4 kids at this school (or even 3 for that matter), but since its going to be a few years before we need to make any decisions, we'll just wait and see...(actually hoping to move abroad again and maybe get company to pay for school fees , there's no harm in dreaming is there???

got to go as lunch is ready, greetings to everyone I ahven't mentioned, have a nice weekend all you!

Oh claire, sounds like a very tricky situation. You know the risk of premature labour is there, yet presumably feel no different?! At least you do know,and can force yourself to rest.

Did everyone/does everyone have 'helpful' comments on their bump a lot?! I am tired and slightly paranoid today, after going to dh's colleague's retirement 'do' last night. So jam packed with GPs and their various (usually medical) spouses, nurses, hv's, receptionists etc. three differnet GPs eyed up my bump and said 'Do they really think you'll go to term?' or words to that effect (obviously, not all 3 phrased it exactly the same, that would be too wierd!), and one of the nurses who used to be a mw said I may be 21 weeks but I look 34. I assume all of these comments, bar hers maybe as she obviously did see loads of pg women, mean nothing as GPs aren't pregnancy experts but made me a little nervous...

bb3, hope Ayse gets better soon... Well done for surviving the really bad day, and I hope tomorrow is better again. Very encouraging your CS recovery was better than your vb recovery.

Ned to head to bed now, so hi to everyone else!

Dream - yes I remember once I was out for dinner and a lady asked how long I had left and I said 3 months and she said (no word of a lie) "don't be ridiculous you can't possibly go that long, I mean, you'll just explode!!!" I then told her it was twins and she said "oh, but even so!!!!" cow bag!!!

Can't remember who asked about more kids after finding out about the twins - I always always always wanted four kids I planned them 2-3 years apart but now after the girls I think we will settle at three as i am so very scared I'd have a multiple pg again and end up with 5+ kids (don't get me wrong I love the girls unconditionally but I'm not sure I could do it all again! ) but I'm also sad that I won't get my fourth xx

hi evryone, in a way its kind of comforting to know others worry about money too, makes me feel more normal.
my biggest worries are number 1 health concerns, and number 2 money, thats all im actually REALLY worried about, i know it will be such hard work esp age 2-3 no naps and the terrible twos and no free preschool hours but i know its a short time really in the grand scheme of things.
but i worry alot about 1 and 2.

its so weird haviing a child thattwasn't relly planned, totally against my personality, it took us 2 years to decide to go for number two, and then we deide to wait fo 6 months before we started trying...
so im the sort of person th\t plans things years in advance and thinks things through, probably too much tbh but this has really thrown everything really.

my dh really wants me to have a cs, so does my mum.

today we have been trying ot get three car seats in the back of our car [audi a3 5 door] its a serious squeeze just about do able, but dds seat will probably have tp be perm straped in with the belt on, as its very difficult to get ot on and off, so we would have to slacken the belt get dd to slip in, then pull the belt tight.
not ideal, but even if we decide to get a people carrier, the extra seats are basica;ly in the boot, so then you have no boot space.
what do you guys do?
what cars do you have or are planning to get?

i mean its expensive having to buy three lots of school shoes and coats etc at once, but when you feel your home isnt reallly big enough or your car the expensive becomes astronomical!

oh about the bump ive been told by some, omg your arms and legs are so skinny. not suprising as ive been sick for 5 weeks. and others mil who has said not being funny but....[you know something good is coming then].... your going to be bursting out all over! jee tell me something i didnt already know !
i really people should refrain from commenting on pg womens bodies.

bb how old are your dc again?

clare are you still managing to rest?

dream is your dp a gp?

Hello!

Carrie, yes my Dh is a gp. Expect no sympathy ever... We are getting an MPV as they have 3 full size seats so all three car seats across middle, back seats flat or out so loads of boot. Has to be a full size one though i think. My step sister swapped a Vw touran for more space with 3 in child seats. We'll get a 3-4 year old seat alhambra, Ford galaxy or maybe Ford s max. Probably the alhambra as its cheapest.

What a shame you don't get your four children bb3! Though surely most people don't have more than one set of twins, but from here I know its not unheard of... You'd be like Katy having 5!!!

I was meant to be having a lie in but couldn't sleep but i should stop skulking upstairs and go and give dd and Dh a cuddle!

I is back. Sorry, been a bit busy. Muggins here decided preggers with twins was the ideal time to take up a new full time job ;)

Carrie having just broken the roof on our car trying to loads in the new pushchair (Out&About Nipper) and car seats...off next weekend to trade it in for a new one. As we'll be having to make journeys including taking DS to Uni, we need something big enough where I can squeeze in between the twins in the first row, and then the second can fold down for lots of luggage. So we're thinking Ford S Max/S Wave too.

Had my 23 week scan which was 'fine' although they're both a bit wee. Still on the normal curve but their arms seem a little below average...US guy and I thought there was something wrong probably with the computer calculations as most measurements were bang on media so it shouldn't have come out so low. Anyway, they're kicking like mad, DP can feel for the first time, blimey they enjoyed Strictly last night :)

Oh, and moving house too. Looks like end of January. Tis all mentalness.

Good luck all :)

Claire my ds is 2 and 7 months and girls are 11 weeks and 5 days x how old are yours?

dream I was told by hospital that having multiples increases your chances of having them second time around (although only slight I'm not sure I can risk it!). Dh is adamant he wants more kids so it's not ruled but the thought at the moment scares me!!

Re cars we have a Honda frv with 6 seats so we didn't need to trade up but my mum has an smax and it's brilliant plenty of boot space even with all 7 seats up (and huge with the normal 5) so definitely a car we will buy if we need to change again x

Cor stinking blimey your taking on a lot! Try and rest too!

It's officially Christmas time now I have the decorations up. We have two Christmas trees in our living room now as ds fell in love with a real Christmas tree in homebase yesterday and i'd already got our tree and decs out the loft! I took him shopping yesterday and we spent a fortune on Christmas stuff (crap!) we now have reindeer door stops, hanging countdown things and lots of lights (why is it you have to buy new lights every Christmas?!?!!)

Tonight I'm doing Christmas cards and wrapping!!!

Wow BB3 you sound very organised, the only reason why I managed to send out. Mas cards early, has been the enforced rest!

My girls are 10 and 7, dd1 is definitely a "preteen", but still a child as well, they are both very independent, and can be very helpful (when in the right mood!). I am sure they'll be great with the twins!

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Wow BB3 you sound very organised, the only reason why I managed to send out. Mas cards early, has been the enforced rest!

My girls are 10 and 7, dd1 is definitely a "preteen", but still a child as well, they are both very independent, and can be very helpful (when in the right mood!). I am sure they'll be great with the twins!

stinkin You definitely have a lot on, try not to overdo it! We moved house when dd1 was 10 days, and had a loft conversion done with dd2, brought her home just in time for the plasteres to start eork (!). I am so glad we're not doing anything this time round!!

Our girls did the tree last weekend, but none of my usual decs are up as I normally take care of it, but I will get dh yo sort them out at some point. I aldo fid a lot of my xmas shopping online, never thoughtmy iphone wojld turn out to be so useful, slready when I was in hospital. I am now getting parcels almost daily! I'll get dh to do his family and I need yo get one of my friends to get his present, even though I have no idea what to get him....ideas anyone??

We're having to change both cars too (groan), but dh should get his from work, even though they've changed his car this year, which is an estate, but we cant fit the whole family! I have a renault modus. Which I have loved, but cannot see 4 kids in there plus double buggy. I am thinking a touran or zafira, as I will only need th back seats occasionslly and do not want a massive car! Another thing we were looking into before I was put on bedrest, I may well have to take the 4 kids in my little car to start with! Luckily dd1 can do without a car seat now (not ideal but school run is virtually 4mins), so I sm thinking one baby in thdfront, the other in the back with the older gifls squeezed in!!

I can tell you these. Abies have turned our life upside down already!

On iphone again, so cannot go back to check on the others, but waving hello to all of you, have a nice evening!

carrie yes I am resting, despite myself, but keep repeating to myself its for a greater good, thanks for asking. (googling preterm babies and complications also helps!!

i can totally understand how you feel about having an unwanted child, I have always had my mind set on 3, and suddenly 4 seems like a huge number!! I have decided to stop worrying though, one thing I have learnt in my life is that theres only so much planning you can do, and good things come out of it too(like my splendid 10 years in the Uk). Moving back to italy was never in my plans, but I have made some very special friendships here, so in the end it was worth it.
What I'm trying to say is you cant control what life throws at you, but you can control how you react to it, and sometimes ifmay bd a good thing that you would have missed otherwise! Big hugs!

Evening all! (Said policeman style :-) )

bb3, like you say, plenty of time to decide about more children. I'm almost envious your Dh would have more. After finding out it was two boys, I suggested we could always see if we had one more, maybe we'd have another little girl and Dh shouted "no WaY!" . It is the rules it seems that Christmas lights break after one year, we've found that too. Done most of our Christmas shopping but got BIL, SIL and their 2 kids we have no inspiration for! Very impressed you're onto wrapping. Hope ayse feeling better.

Claire, men are much harder to buy for I think. I have got my Dh a dressing gown, a grow-your-own-chillies pack, and a keyring torch so I am hardly inspired! Thought about frozen planet dvd... Are they busy thinking of names for the twins? I think its a good philosophy of yours. I can't imagine packing up and moving abroad, let alone with 4 children.

Bad news in this house is after it finally looked like my dd was getting back into her old routine she's most likely got chicken pox- high temp and spotty, not the classic blistering spots yet but Dh says pretty sure it is the pox . she hasn't even got rid of her hacking cough yet!!! And my grandpa died today. Very sad. He was 93 so not unexpected, but kidneys suddenly failed so he died in hospital with not-marvellous care, so that bit is very sad.

Hello stinkingbishop, is your mn name after the cheese?! We moved when dd was 5 weeks old, stressful. Probably better than when your babies arrive though! The full time job sounds hard with a twin pg- will you get to go part time after your mat leave?

bb3 I might hate you! Only joking...have done most of the cards and presents BUT cannot do the decs yet as I cannot fit into the loft and DP and DS are always 'busy'...so their own fault frankly if the house looks unfestive now!

dream yes, tis the cheese (and not that I am a very smelly cleric!) Favourite thing in the world but am finding with this pregnancy that even the most processed cheese (don't worry, staying away from unpasteurised) in the world (I'm looking at you, Cheesey Strings) makes me go bright pink! That, along with the 'itch of pregnancy', pregnancy rhinitis, the fact my tummy is already so huge I cannot see my lady bits so lord knows how long the plumage is (TMI?!), my tummy button looks like an elephant trunk, nicely set off by my downy belly, STILL being sick, twins seem to have set up a kung fu gym in utero...LOVING it. Not!

Move is looking like end Jan, after DS has done AS resits...twins due in March but want to be in there by Feb just in case. Have got pretty much everything we need now I think apart from all the breast expressing kit. And a large playmat (any reccs for twin friendly ones?), mobiles, sofa bed/feeding perch for me/night nanny. Oo, and we need to find one of those to get a few nights sleep at the beginning though putting that off till we move...local twins' club has been brilliant. Got 2x rockers, muslins, feeding cushion and bath seats for £28 :) And that's not forgetting the £1.50 bags of babygrows etc off eBay. And two M&P cots for £55! I think this is the proudest I have ever made my very Scottish Mum!

Work - have set up my own company and subcontracting to another, so no maternity leave as such, and each day means more money, so trying to do as much as possible. Plan will be to go back 3 days a week at 6 months, and then we'll see. It's absolutely bloomin' shattering tbh, especially the commute. DP wants me to stop after Xmas but then there's a part of me wants a nice 'landing strip' for when I start working again ie if I have impressed this time round, easier to pick up again with old contracts. We'll see.

MOST importantly, how are we all going to cope with Xmas with DPs, PILs etc with no bloomin' sherry? I may be very naughty and sneak a couple...

dream so sorry about your grandad x hope It is not pox ds had spotty rash with his virus so hopefully just that x

Stinking will you be able to apply for self employed mat pay from government?

Oh I was going to buy dh a grow your own chillis pack! Instead he's got shirts, jumpers, DVDs, t-shirts and is getting a new camera in the sales!

bb3 yes, I THINK, having looked online, I will be eligible from -11 weeks. It's not exactly going to cover the mortgage and keep us in the clover, but it will be a huge help, so fingers crossed I get it.

What I HAVE managed to get so far are the Healthy Start fruit/veg vouchers which are very helpful, and doing their bit by prompting us to eat much more. I get £3.10 a week which doesn't sound like much but if you go for the special offers we have had a LOT of soups and crumbles out of them and I am buying snacks for my desk.

dream so sorry about your Grandpa. It's a dilemma isn't it - we're all old enough now to have enjoyed an adult relationship with them, which is fantastic, and they've seen their DGGCs, which is so special...but it makes it harder, so much harder. I lost both mine a few years ago and I just felt like I'd lost my air cover. GPs can provide such wisdom and serenity. I hope you have some special memories. On the chicken pox front - apparently I had it at Xmas aged three and a bit. Can't remember it all, though the complete absence of family photos of me that year implies it was true. Better to get it out of the way young? Or is that me clutching at straws for you! Anyway, best of British with it...it's a bit of a childhood rite of passage isn't it? DS has a bindi like mark in the middle of his forehead. He was sooo good at not scratching apart from that one, sod's law! He used to tell people at school it was a bullet mark ;)

stinking my belly, at 21+4, is so big I can't see my bits, and thank goodness with the hideousness and deformity of vulval varices! Also still being sick, though not every day thank goodness, generally itchy sacro iliac joint stiffness and pain (so said the lovely physio) and can't believe I have all these symptoms so early!!! We must be pretty close- are you 23 or 24 weeks now? I refuse to count my due date as later than 38 weeks, therefore its 5th April!!!

Pox confirmation- took dd to the gp with that and her cough. He said lots of her spots aren't typical but some definitly got the blisters of chicken pox, and should be more clearly the pox tomorrow. She has them in her mouth too- another explanation for her not eating, and she's miserable. Her persistent cough he put down to virus on virus over the last 3 months. Poor little tike. Calpoled up and asleep on my chest right now... About to attempt the transfer to cot, but as she's ill I didn't even try it first thing.... The nicest thing I will remember about my grandpa's last weeks were that he couldn't remember any bad news- like that my step-grandfather had died a year ago- but could remember I was having twin boys and was delighted.

quempin hope you're feeling a bit better. Got an Amazon parcel today and thought of you Claire and hello tabby, raven, Carrie bigboobs and everyone else.

Hi guys I'm still hanging in there . Was sick twice yesterday but its mire in control now than it was. Hoping the sickness will magically disappear after the weekend when I'm the magic 12 weeks lol
Dream sorry to hear about your grandpa how lovely he knew about your twin boys though. And was thrilled.
Clare where are you doing most of your resting? On the sofa or in bed? I go to bed v v early some nights as I feelonce I'm in bed I'm less likely to be sick , but I ri get stick if the sight if it !

Haven't git a thing ready for Xmas haven't find ind card nor wrapped one gift .oh well

Yes I hope I cab learn to loosen up a bit, as it gets a bit wearing being the sort of person that only does things after thinking about it a lot

Hello again,

dream so sorry about your grandad and dd1 getting chickenox, you seem to be going through quite a rough time! One positive note though, better get the pox out of the way now than have it in the house when you have 2 tiny newborns who would be much too young for it. And Lol about you thinking of me with amazon delivery!! I sometimes think I keep them
In business singlehandedly!

carrie really hoping your sickness subsides now, 12 weeks definitely is a magical number!! I spend most of my dsy in bed. I wake up when thd girls get ready for school and they come give me a kiss, and I do their hair (no one else is ang good in thd house and also its a small thing I czn still do for them) , I thdn slowly get up, have z shower get dressed and go downstairs, have breakfast on sofa and then I stay there all day except fir meals and trips to the loo!! I keep busy with knitting, tv, books, newspapers, fb and mumsnet of course! I have to say the days go quite quickly, even though still not quick enough for me!

I packed the babies bag for hospital this morning, i have been given lits of tiny baby clothes by a mum of twins, which is great! I was in 2 minds about it as now afraid I have jinxed it, byt at the same time if I end up in hospital again I want to have them ready, rather than trying to explain to dh where everything is and what to get. I'll pack mine tomorrow.

I am also getting a bit anxious in that I was dur fir my cancer checkups between niw and jan, and I have had to postpone everything til after the birth, which makes me a tad nervous, and its like a little black cloud hanging over my head. I have made z conscious decision to just ignore it and get on with my life when we decided to havd a third child, and havd largely managed to do so, but at times like this it keeps coming back....

I wish I could fast forward to 5-6 weeks from now, the twins are here and we're all safe and healthy!!

So, I have decided to get dh some nice bottles of wine, its a recent passion of his, and I have asked a friend of his for recommendations. But he wont be allowed to open them till I have given birth!!

i still cant believe its xmas in less than 2 weeks, not sure who we're going to have with us, I wouldnt mind if we're on our own though, dh can take some time off anc it'll be mice to be alone after so many weeks!

Greetings to everyone I haven't mentioned, hope you are all ok.
C
xx

Claire good idea about the hospital bag. I nearly did;8ne the other day. Nit because km expecting to have the twins soon, but worried ill be admitted with

the hyperemesis .

Typing on phone from bed too lol

Funny phone typos

I didn't realise you had cancer before what type was it? And was it along time ago.

Yes I suppose all you can do is try and put it out of your mind. Easier said then done. One of my friends who is ttc soon is medication oerminatly for chrins disease

That should say chrones disease

She's worried about ttc on the medication plus she's massivly underweight weighs about 7 stone at 5 ft 6