feb 2011 - waving those pom poms

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just to start a new (and possibly last) ante natal thread - come on knitta

ha ha ledkr hope you have a fab day and no your bum doesn't look big in that!

40 are you superwoman? honestly, i'm ashamed of myself now knowing you're back at the gym! I get out of the chair in one movement now (as opposed to when pg and it took half an hour of grunting) does that count as exercise?

angels with OH I said very clearly in no uncertain terms, it is mothers' day on Sun 3rd April and I would like a day off some perfume and a card from Ben. I don't think there's any point in subtlety with men unfortunately!

i sent dh to the hairdressers to book and pay for a haircut and manicure as my mothers day pressie. There really is no point being subtle with him. Dh has no excuse re night feeds as he was made redundant in jan and hasn't found another job yet. I can't wait to get to the gym again but i have to wait till i have the ok from the drs. F is a content baby and only cries for food, but at 4am she tends to grunt and jabba away and i cannot sleep through it. Gosh i'm grumpy today i'm off to eat cake and cheer up

I read 40's message that she's at the gym but sitting in the cafe. Please don't tell me you're actually exercising again already?

L seems to have horrible trapped wind. He won't settle at night for very long and he'll only sleep if I'm holding him. He cries and farts at the same time and he's only been doing one (very explosive) poo per day. We started Infacol yesterday but I'm not sure what else to do.

Does anyone know if and when my stomach will go back to looking "normal"? L was 4 weeks yesterday and it's still squishy and deflated. I'm not ready to start exercising as my stitches (3rd degree tear) ache quite a lot if I do too much.

Expat, my tum is still squishy too, my ds1 told me it was squishy like a bouncing bean! Bless him!
Noah tends to cry if he's got wind, then trumps and goes quiet again! If he's got burpy at night he tends to strain and struggle when we lie him down. I ignored this yesterday morning at 3.30 and he ended up being sick!
Sorry you've been having a hard time Ledkr, but hope you enjoy your day off/out today.
Anything i get for Mothers Day will have been bought by my MIL and given to dh to give to me! He would never think of getting me anything without me stopping BIG hints!
Noah isn't too bad today, feeding ok and sleeping ok but mainly on me!
I've been really suffering with anxiety, it was quite bad this morning. Went out for a walk with dh and Noah and really struggled with the tight stomach, light headed feeling it gives me. Started my anti depressants Monday so hoping they start to work soon. Mental health worker came out to see me with my health visitor yesterday and was so fantastic and helpful. She's going to send me some CBT stuff to work on.
Really hoping to feel better soon as feelings are becoming hard to deal with.
Sorry for depressing post x

from one bensmum to another... i understand the feeling you describe really well and glad you're getting the support you need. CBT is really effective and i hope you get to see someone soon.

not sure when stomachs return to normal (if ever... ). inspired by 40 i did some gentle yoga earlier and have started bleeding again, is this normal? i had ben 6 weeks ago and stopped bleeding 2 weeks ago.

Bensmum76 Hopefully ADs will start to kick in a few days, great that your mental health worker is so supportive and clued up. Keep posting, it will help just to write/type things out. Again well done for getting help and support so quickly.

DD1 and dd2 are off school/playgroup because of St Patricks Day and I have given into their pleading and am letting them sleep together. I still have the baby monitor in dd2 room and am sitting here wetting myself at their antics, lots of "ssh pretend you're asleep" etc, they are currently bickering over who has the cutest teddies!!!

Girls girls girls I was (as expat correctly noted!) at the cafe - it's just that the crèche is at the gym and we are paying for the use of it in our membership so I thought I would let the boys go and play while I sat and read the paper! So no, am not exercising yet.

Will now catch up with posts, but had to get things straight!

Hi all,

Anyone else feel they don't have a MOMENT to themselves? I got the girls in bed and had a BATH oh the heaven. Thought I'd send you all a quick message before bed :)

Have enlarged on the hotel fantasy- mine also includes a jacuzzi, a pedicure and a massage now. Was thinking about it last night in bed whilst trying to get back to sleep.

I have caved in and given S a dummy. DD1 never had one and I don't like them much, but S just chases her hands all the time and then gets upset and is hard to settle, so I thought hmmm... lets try it. It works a treat, she goes to sleep in her sling or my arms still but I can cut out the endless bloody pacing and just stick the dummy in and she's off. One downside is that DD1 has requisitioned the second dummy in the pack and it is now her favourite toy.

I knew what you were doing 40 and I would have done the same!!

knitter - starting to worry now.... Don't do an angels on us...!!!

ledkr hope your hangover isn't too bad tomorrow!!

That's it from me, wishing you all a great night :)

debka tell me about it - I end out practically wetting myself from not having time to go to the loo. Alice was screaming for a feed at 5am this morning and I went to the loo first (as if I didn't go then I knew I'd be stuck with her for maybe an hour or so faffing with feeding) and DH moaned at me for not picking her up sooner so he could get some sleep

I hope knitta doesn't take my record . wasn't it friday she went in?

needto I know I'm only 3 weeks post baby but I asked mw if it was normal for bleeding to come and go as mine had stopped then came back (and still does come back quite often) and she said if I do lots more bfing than normal or do more physically than usual then bleeding will come back - it really doesn't take much for me to start bleeding again - even a little walk will do it.

Wishing ledkr a filled day tomorrow

Right, crossed fingers for a better night tonight.

Just checking in, my bleeding has pretty much stopped but then again i have'nt been doing anything, there is a jane sized groove on my couch!

I am so freaking angry with my FIL at the minute, its a LONG story will fill you all in later. However he keeps telling me to "just get on with things". in a really patronising tone. I swear i am going to end up hitting him!

My own Dad has been fantastic and such a support but he knows where i am comming from, as my own Mum passed away 2 days after giving birth to me.

Im hoping you all manage to get some sleep tonight.

Gosh, so sorry Jane, your FIL sounds a prat, but I'm sure he's meaning well...? So sorry about your Mum too. I hope you get some decent sleep too. xxx

jane FGS your fil does sound an idiot, I don't know how you've managed to not hit him! Actually, I don't think you need to be hearing that kind of rubbish at the moment - is there any way you can just not see him for a while? Its not helpful and you've got enough to deal with without some unhelpful comments too Am also sorry about your mum too xx

We had quite a good night last night - only up at 4am for a feed, wow! Dd is just so noisy and snuffly inbetween though, I wake up and think I need to get a bottle then realise I can leave her

So hope you all have had a good night too, tbh yesterday was a bit of a crappy day for me so am trying to feel positive for a better one today :)

angels was it you who said you are using aptamil milk too? Dd has such runny, yellow nappies yesterday (she didn't with sma) - just wondering if you had anything similar? Is it just me who seems to be having plently of conversations with dp about nappies, poo, burps etc now

Sorry about your insensitive FIL Jane, and sorry about your mum too.
Noah woke at midnight at 3 for feeds last night. He goes about 4.5 hours on an evening so am thinking of cluster feeding him on an evening to hopefully get him to go longer during the night.
Hope you all have a good day. Got jump and jiggle class this morning with ds1 then his first swimming lesson at midday!

jane ignore your FIL - his advice is poor - you need to go with your emotions at this point - ignoring them will just build up issues in the future, you are behaving in a completely normal and healthy way, it's him who isn't.

ponyo we are using actimel but only as top up feeds and one full feed at night, so alice isn't on it exclusively. Her poos are v yellow though and pretty runny . I thought that was normal though ?

wonder if ledkr is all glammed up and out already.

Have now given up on ever having any sleep or ever getting anything done...ever. There are so many half started jobs done over the house as I try my best but just get interupted all the time.

Hi Ladies

Just wanted to pass on some positive news to anyone with a windy baby. We started using Dr Brown bottles last night and DS is soooooo much better. We've gone from a feed + wind taking at least two hours (more sometimes when he's really in pain) to wrapping the whole thing up in under an hour. We got him winded at one point last night in just five minutes.

The bottles are more fiddly than the regular ones, but OMG it's worth it to save him the pain and for us to get some sleep. I'm feeling almost human today. (famous last words...)

Jane I've been thinking of you so much and am I hope your FIL keeps his distance, at least for a while.

Ponyo we are on Actimel and get runny yellow poos, so I think it's fairly normal.

one I second the dr brown bottles. Dc2 had dreadful colic I used them with aptimal comfort. It saved my sanity.

Thinking of you Jane you dfil is being completely insenitive. I am angry with him on your behalf. My dfil was a knob when I was devastated about dc1 having downs syndrome. But you situation is a completely different league.

Chaos here with four of them!!!!! Archie is doing well. Infact speak of him.....I'm being summoned!!!

Just, ididnt know you had four little ones! Your my hero! One of my neighbours has four children and told me organisation is the key!
Ponyo we are also getting runny yellow poos and are on SMA. I've heard that bottle fed babies always have very smelly poos anyway!
Just want to share my proud mummy emotion with you all, Ben had his first swimming lesson today and was fantastic, I had to hold back the tears!
Hope your all ok and coping with your little limpets!!

Bensmum Yay for Ben, Anna is on SMA and had v yellow poos yesterday, also one of the smelliest poos ever, it's as well she's so cute Although behaving a bit limpetish!!

oneof4 Also seconding the Dr Brown bottles, I don't use them, our house is sponsored by Tommee Tippee but anyone who I know that used them loved them.

Jane Fil is being a dick, can OH have a word with him, if he is upsetting you, don't see him. Go and give your Dad a big cuddle and get him to look after you for a while.

bensmum yes there four! the older two are 7 and 6 so at school. Is that cheating? Our oldest has downs so is similar to having a 3 y o at the mo. He is actually quite often the one who emotionally keeps me going, he is hilarious. Dd1 is only 17 months so that's a challenge!!

I've got better at prioritising...... That's a good way to describe my parenting!!!!

Well done your ds at swimming, I bet it was just what you needed to give you a boost. Bless.

Offt that was the tip of the iceberg, all started off last thurs when we went to the funeral home to visit Zoe .(fil came as he was on a cruise when i gave birth and didnt have the chance to meet her) We were in a meeting with the funeral director and fil kept firing question after question at him, he then started to talk over me whenever i asked anything.
The funeral director gave me the clothes Zoe was wearing in hospital and put them in bag at my feet. Fil walked across the room picked up the bag and hoiked her little outfit out the bag I was fuming!

Throughout the week he was trying to talk me out of walking alongside DF in the creamtorium when taking Zoe in her coffin. He wanted to be with my DF and the coffin instead all for the bloody attention! On the morning of the funeral i had a meltdown so fil took my dad asdide to talk me out of walking with Df and Zoe, he was then told in no uncertain terms that it would be me and Df with Zoe as it should be!

In the crematorium he was trying to organise where my parents and family should be sitting, he wanted Df and I to sit with him, DF Sis and partner (who is a complete stranger to me). My mother had to let him know yet again that i would be sitting with my parents and he could Feck off!

I am just so sick of him and his controlling ways, cant say much to DF as he is in a hard place too. He does know that i am angry with him though.

We collected Zoe's ashes today, so in a way she got to come home with us.

I keep saying sorry jane bit I am at your FIL on your behalf. I hope he winds his neck in straight away.

jane i am glad little zoe is home with you now where she belongs. Always thinking of you. As for FIL......TWAT. sorry but how insensitive....ignore him!

Hope everyone is well...knitta surely must have some news by now?? Hope all is ok.

LO is 5 weeks tomorrow...wow. Just a couple of advice questions if anyone has any answers that could help...

1. How in hell do you get a baby to have gripe water? She literally spits it out or lets it dribble down her chin!!

1. I am trying to stimulate LO as much as i can, but she seems so uninterested. She hardly follows objects when i put them in front of her...am i being too pushy? I worry about all these milestones!!

jane am fuming at FIL. I was getting upset just reading how he has been behaving, let alone how you must feel living with it - where's ledkr with those famous knuckle what-do-you-call-them torture impliments?

pinkie I wonder same thing re: doing things with LO. We have one of those machines which plays lullaby type songs and has a light on the ceiling with a pattern to follow when they are older and Alice loves listening to the tunes - so I feel like that's something at least, if I'm brave I sing along too, but relly can't see that she enjoys that!. I also find she stares at the walls/ceiling with great interest so figure in her little brain working the world out that's enough at the minute. She's been making some cooing type noises the past day or so which makes my heart melt .

starting to get seriously concerned about knitta now

slow ha ha she also stares at ceilings and walls with immense fascination. and no cooing noises here, all she does is grunt. am constantly wondering 'is this normal'!!!