Due in Nov 05 - Hooray for the third trimester - part VII

[Enthusia]

Right then here goes.

sorry, but due to the bad feelings towards Percy Pigs displayed by some members, I regret to inform you that I am leaving MN.

Goldenoldie, I'm so fed up with people asking me if I know what I'm having that the next time I'm going to say, 'no but I'm hoping for a kitten'

Nova!! Maybe you can blackmail us by saying you'll only stay if we all send you a months supply of these piggies you hold so dear!

Good news on the twins Golden Oldie!

Thanks for the info Chacha, have stuck a few on my watch list! It is the 'little me' stuff I got yesterday. The purple 'dill and organic lavender' sort. What smell are the red ones?

Hiya rodeo - yeah that's it! The red ones are neroli, rose and mandarin and have IMO a much 'nicer' smell. Lavender is okay but (no offence meant to anyone who wears/loves it) reminds me of old ladies! Perhaps my gran used to wear it?!? On second glance, its more pink than red and there is an orange brand too, think it's tangerine. Yummy.

Nova - Down with Percy...Down with Percy...tra la la la la.......

Golden oldie - what is 1.3kg in new money? I think about you every time I moan about being so big.....42cm....repect!!!

Etiquette note for those new to mumsnet: Nova is doing what is known as "flouncing" so we all have to post sycophantic messages begging her to stay

Sorry Enthusia - didnt mean to gross you out. Just wish someone had told me beforehand

No grossing here - glad of all the info I can get, would like to be prepared so I don't think i'm bleeding to death or in labour when I'm not - bring on the gross stuff!!!!

Haven't tried Percy's so think I will stay out of this with my lovely pecan danishes!

enthusia, if it helps amniotic fluid smells like hay/straw it has a distinctive smell.Had to lol at thought of sniffing knickers.
kristina i agree to some extent about some mw giving unrealistic expectations. I always compare breastfeeding to learning to ride a bike, once you can do it you wonder why you ever thought it was hard??? Its true it takes a good 6 weeks to fully get the knack and settle into a routine, but agree to some extent with mw that staying till you get latching on in the right posistion craked I laugh now at myself, when i had 2nd baby i was so frustrated that i new what i needed to do with the bf but dd did not!!! had to laugh at a very wise midwife friend who gentle reminded me that unfortunatley dd had not read same books as me, and i should be patient
well must go,i forgot i put a banana & blubbery cake in the oven (it might be black now )
twinkle
29+6

I see that some of you are baking today? Of course, these recipes have been posted on our recipe thread right?

I'm going to try Nigella's coconut maroons, fudge & baklava over the week. They all look really simple!

Nova - Where are you? We all miss you! Percy is great, we love him....

Oh I am so impressed at all this baking going on...I wish you lived near me so I could invite you and your goodies round for coffee. Perhaps you would consider a Red Cross food parcel????

Twinkle - i think your comment about getting the latch "cracked" is most unfortunate [ ouch emoticon]. I have a friend who is a GP trainee who had her first baby last year. She is now so embarassed to think of all the STUPID things she said to mums before she was one . LOL at your baby's lack of reading

Kristina - 1.3k = 2.8lbs.

Twinkle - is that a fresh bale straw/hay smell or a minging/cleaning stable/horse piss hay/straw smell?

Not sure about the bike riding analogy. I can bf, but I still can't ride a bike!

baking, knitting, semen sniffing - are we turning into Stepford wives......................

errr that would be the fresh nice straw smell
twinkle

oh goldenyoungthing thats great! Are you going for a CS or is it too early to tell? My baby is transverse ( = compulsory CS) but so was his big brother and he turned at the last minute ( ok i exaggerate - week 39). Apart from the worry of possibly having a CS I can thoroughly recommend carrying the baby across the way - you get much less pressure on your lungs, bladder and stomach.All the kicking / poking is at the sides. I have no idea how you cope with two in there.....

Kristina - def. CS (I've had two already - so no choice really, not that I would have asked for VBAC anyway!).

One is head down and one is head up - very uncomfortable with one head up in my ribs and one bouncing on my kidney.

How funny are you lot, I've just been sitting here giggling to myself, I don't know about the stepford wives I think this is more fodder for Little Britain personally. Knicker sniffing and Percy pigs in one post what is the world coming too

Nova, it's definitely down with Percy, Haribo get my vote any day!!! Neat flounce by the way Is this the part where I'm supposed to beg you to come back and apologise to Percy?!!! All I can say to Percy is "Cadbury's" but we definitely want you back!

Had the funniest experience with a two of my friends kids today, they were playing mother & baby and my friends 3.5 year old daughter was in the midst of peeling down her fairy costume when we asked her what she was doing only to be informed that the baby (my other friends 3.5 year old son) wanted some milk, he looked very keen, at which point I fell off my chair in absolute fits of laughter as her mum dashed for the kitchen saying "no, no give him a bottle!" Boy I know they start young these days but that really takes the biscuit!

Right got to go as dh is here wanting to play his game and I'm knackered and need my bed, speak to you all tomorrow Beks

Can't post. laughing too much

Enthusia - just to add to the gross side of things, buy at least twice as many maternity pads as you think you need, then a few more for good luck. NO-ONE tells you that you need to wear 2 together to start with!

Twinkle - nice reminder about bf 2nd time round. Tessa knew what to do as soon as she emerged, this time round I was probably expecting the same and can imagine me sitting there going ' come on, get on with it'

Goldenoldie - How do you get comfortable when you need to sleep? Can you tell what position they are both in? Wow I'm intrigued.

Tessasmum - I've bought 4 packets of 12 (maternity pads) do you think that is enough?? What's with the wearing two together? Yuk - that bad? All that AND trying to get to grips with b/f..
We have a saying in Islam which is 'Paradise lies at the feet of the mother'. I am honestly beginning to understand why!

Beks & Kristina - Hi

Love the Stepford Wives scenario ...

I never wore two at once but I did go through at least a dozen a day at the beginning. This really freaked me first time but the MW assured me it was normal. So Chacha, if you are like me that woudl do you for 4 days. And i bled for 9 weeks [gross out emoticon]. I didnt use maternity pads, just night time ones.I find pads disgusting , having used tampons since I was 14. And they rub against the stiches. Oh its all coming back to me now........

Chacha - does it mean that mothers get to paradise because of what we do for our kids?

KristinaM-ooooh dont!!!! everythings coming back to me after you saying that,I bled for about 7 weeks and it was gross-also remember the stitchs+pads horror and the amount i went through in 3 days-4 packs and im with you on the fact i wore tampons from age 12 and find towels minging!

OOOh-and to those who havent had babies yet-I'll tell you something you'll never read in books and m/w's etc fail to tell you before you give birth, I hope no-ones eating as TMI but you can end up losing alot of "tissue" etc and cr*p from inside you-this was the grossest thing I've ever experienced as it was like finding liver in my pants! sorry did say TMIbut I wish someone had told me about this before I delivered as I would have been far less freaked out and would of known what to do rather than madly ringing the bell for the m/w, for her to run in with me standing there with my pants down panicking (OH the INDIGNITY!!!), only for her to say "oh its normal love, just change your pad" how stupid did i feel-i thought my insides were falling out!

Im being prepared this time-ive bought femme pads-gel pads to put in freezer then in pants for helping stitches/bruising etc as i cant stand the thought of sitting on a bag of ice like last time!

Sorry i'll go now after ive grossed everyone out!

Liz 30+4

I could never leave you - I'd miss you all too much

Well, yet another really rubbish ante-natal session, I really wanted to walk out half way through. I don't want to bother going back for the rest, but that may be frowned upon??? The only good thing that came out of it is that the good physio reckons I should call the midwife if my feet get any worse, she was a bit concerned at how swollen they've got and the fact that the shoe dents don't disppear for at least an hour after taking my shoes off. She made me sit in the class with my feet on a cushion on a stool with a back support. I may have to go into support stockings soon - yummy .

Nova - I thought you were into all that bondage stuff???

oh and the rubbish teacher described locia as thus:

a period like bleeding that gradually fades after a couple of weeks.

No mention of futon sized pads being changed every 2 hours for up to a month!! The poor women in my class are going to get such a shock

Kristina - lol , not sure they do support stockings in fishnet

Oh dear BAM, we have scared everyone away

Nova - your classes sound just like the ones i went to...thought it was just rubbish on the NHS.Our physio woman kept referring to "hubby" even tho it was obvious that not everyone there was married - it was like something out of the 1950s.

Her advice on post natal depresion was to put the baby in the buggy and go off round the shops

She spent ages asking what things we had bought for the baby- like it was any of her business. If you were short of ££££ you would have felt really bad.

One day she had a real live mum come down from the post natal ward, in her dressing gown poor woman, looking crap ( as you do) . Turns out she had just given birth to her 6th baby, after 30 mins labour. Someone asked about her first baby and the poor woman was so embarassed - she told us she was 16 and it was a concealed pregnancy and she gave birth alone in the bathroom at home. I was shocked and felt so sorry for her, having to go through that . The Mw in charge couldnt get her out of the room fast enough, then she came back and apologised to us!!!! The MW was really nasty and judgemental, we were shocked.

Hi Kristina, basically it means if you respect your mother, obey her, love her and take good care of her, you will (God willing) enter paradise. There are lots of verses in the Quran that mention the mother, for example:
?Respect the Womb that bore you.?
?We have enjoined on human beings kindness to their parents.? HTH

Busy - I am shocked I am learning too much on here. Today's Percy Pigs, maternity pads, liver on pants, knicker fetish, horse pee smells and the like have just been too much!

Off to bed girls. Have a lovely night x