The PESH deli – how extraorder, we're all in pig

[Muser]

We smacked our ovaries and sent them to Madame Bovary, and now we're in pig. MSDP ends here, just waiting for the MAD lot to join us.

BESH BAYBEES
dontrythisathome, girl born March 25.
Cheggers, twinz girlz, born April
FannyPriceless, boy, born June 8
CurlyCasper, girl, born June 24
CUNextTuesday, boy, born June 29
Skihorse, boy, born 1 July
Carrots, boy, born July
IggyPiggy, girl, born July

UPDIFFED
Cosmosis, the baybee that is never going to come out, due August 22
backinthebox, thinking of inventive uses for courgettes, due September 6
skatergrrrl, the one that overtook the rest, September 1
VAG, lives in De Nile, due 19 September
silversky, the biggest farter, due 18 October (first baybee)
Honeymoo, 3 wees a night, due October 31 (boy)
okiecokie, self-confessed control freak, due November 6
SomethingSuitablyWitty, benelux babe, due November 14
ReginaMonologue, knows when all the sales are, due November 20 (boy)
maswera, jungle hottie - due December 11
PollyPoo, wants to name her baybee after the dog, The New Messiah is due December 25
ChoChoSan "and Lo! The lord did resurrect her petrified womb" due 31 January
CluckyKate, hatching an egg - due February 2
Perfect Dromedary, defied medical science - due February 24
Ginhag, reckless cake-carrier, due 28th Feb
Muser, I threw up behind a tree - due February 27
Medee, finally over the Haribo craving, due March 12
Casserole living on hula hoops - due April 10
MrsFC, joining whether she wants to or not

cherry was indeed good. But I was v jealous of the lovely waterbirth THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MINE!!!!!!

scorps I'm afraid sometimes it doesn't get past nausea limbo. I sometimes got a wee bit of sick in my throat on the drive to work, but was generally left feeling, rather than being, sick. Of course, I hope your body goes for the feel well option.

I was never sick just the constant threat of feeling sick from 6wks through to 20 odd wks. Sometimes it would kick in 5 secs after I woke up and last all day. Other times eating would make It subside - a bit like bloody sea sickness. Makes pregnancy such a joy.

Me too scorps. Threw up my coffee once, and after thatcwas just naseous. Especially when cleaning my teeth in the morning - very retchy. It passed.

Sickness for me was from 7-10 weeks but it was just the feeling and not the physical act of being sick to got me. I think I got of lightly really unlike poor muse and ski

Oh and forgot to say that the scan yesterday picked up that my baybeee already has a lot of head hair.. Maybe I am giving birth to a chimp or a Goldilocks?

okie hairy baybees are the best!

cossie is correct. Hairy baybees are the shiz.

scorps Was never sick - a bit retchy at times. I mostly spent the first few weeks feeling constantly hungover - in desperate need of lardy carbohydrates at all points, odd taste in mouth and really, really tired.

Then all the symptoms disappeared two days before the scan, leading to panickage.

Hormones are currently taking the form of terrifying irrational rage, mostly with co-workers and random strangers on the tube. This cannot be good for my poor little Zen baby, who has lived with relatively calm and peaceful mother up to this point. And TNB is a bit scared of me at the moment too...

Irrational rage also means I have to cut down on posting, as I may accidentally say something SO offensive that I can never speak to another human again.

Would much rather have weepy horrormons, tbh.

scorps I can pretty much echo everything drom just said. Horrific nausea, eating of salty carbs, tired, shiverry, fucking angry and weepy... and then about 11 or 12 weeks, I felt a lot better.

One thing I would say, is that I very quickly learned that everyone (and most notably and bizarrely men of wives who have already given birth) will have a strong point of view on whatever it is you decide birth wise. I personally find it really irritating, because a) you'll probably change your mind 100 x anyway b) it's none of their fucking business and c) everyone's different.

You can't win whatever you decide. If you say HB, you're not being "realistic" and if you say elective c-section, you're too posh to push or something. So ignore everyone, do your research and decide what's right for you... chances are it will all change on the day anyway. Also if you really are " queen of anxiety" as you say, might be worth thinking about hypno stuff - purely to help you relax and go with the flow. Doesn't necessarily mean you'll be in yoga poses having orgasms as you crown... :) although that would be nice!

Hello PESHies - just dropped by for a quick lurk and to see how this baybee laying is going.....

You lot have v much to look forward too as my little piglet is gorgeous - and all of your baybees will be too

Also wanted to add a massive YAY and nekkid dance for scorpalina it made my day reading her news

Maybe I will have to drop by her place on my way back down south to give her the real nekkid dance

will continue to lurk for vag related news and anyone else who is thinking of being early....

drom I had irrational tears accompanying my irrational rage - do you has that too?

scorps I was never actually sick - I retched when cleaning teeth, when attempting to eat a cereal bar and when using spray deodorant... But I did feel nauseous - is not the best is it.

Much sympathies for muse who sounds like she having a rough time with the sickness too.

Right - I leave you all now... MWAH xx

If only!

Fanks y'all for the pukey info. I too crave salty carbs already. Guess I'll just have to deal with whatever my system throws at me (am dreadful control freak and like to know exactly what's going to happen. Oh, I am so ready for all this! )

The fucking cramps are the thing that's really pissing me off currently. I thought pg would mean 9 months free of my crippling cramps once a month - am now getting moderate ones every day At least they're for a much, MUCH better cause.

Big luff to Iggyplop! When are you going back daaaahn saaaaf? I wouldn't be adverse to meeting for a quick smooch en route And to see your gorgeous small (which goes without saying).

Drom, I already suffer from terrifying, irrational rage. If I get any worse, am going to be some sort of huge-bellied Godzilla rampaging across the Midlands...

Well, I told the Doc this morning, so it's 'official' (she says, as if she hasn't already chosen the name, pram type, etc., etc.). Had to wait 3 ridiculous days for them to ring me just to tell them. Was new young male Doc I spoke to and he was laughing about how I must know all the details better than him as he asked me if I smoke crack, drink meths, eat unpasteurised thermometers, put cats in bins, etc. He then slightly spoilt it by going: so, I see you're nearly 38. Is this an IVF baby? Me: no, we did it all by ourselves, if you'll pardon my wording. Him:, ooooh, that's good at your age. Me: Thank you. He then started going on about being old, a bit overweight and first pregnancy being mc risks, but I freaked out and interrupted him.

Says to make MW appointment for 8 weeks. I thought it was 6 wks? Guess there is regional variation. Perhaps the further North you go, the tougher you're meant to be, ie don't bother us until a tiny hand emerges out of your knickers, love.

Honeymoo, thanks for reassurance about idiotic comments. I defo want to do hypno-birthing (is that what you lot call 'hippo birthing'?). Have just found out that I am going to miss out on getting the Health In Pregnancy Grant by only 2-3 wks, so am well pissed off, as that would've paid for it nicely (you've got to be 25 wks by 1st Jan 2011, as they're stopping it then. Grrrr).

scorps - biggest hippo-birthing advocate reporting for duty \o

I did it from the CD and it cost me the princely sum of 15 coins of the realm off Ebay. No expensive lessons for me!

Also hippo birthing advocate here! I bought cd and book second hand off amazon first of all, then I dis course... But you can def do it just from cd and book... Cossie did it thy way too!

scorps will send you message about journey sard

Nice one, Cunty Will scour eBay and Amazon nearer the time. When I mentioned hippo-birthing last night, TYF was a bit sceptical (being the man who thinks Ben Goldacre is a bit wishy-washy) but I told him it was either that or every time I'm in agony I get to punch him in the face wearing rings, so he's coming round to the idea. You gotta train 'em up proper-like [Barbara Woodhouse face]

Ha ha Ben Goldacre, now there's a blast from the past....I remember smoking splifs with him in my youth. He was wishy-washy (akchewly mostly wasted) back then too

Oooh, worra claim to fame! Am proper impressed.

Igs I cried getting on the train this morning because I was trying to get my Oyster card to work on a gate at Waterloo and then someone ignored me and came through from the other side. But that was totally rational, right? Right?

Scorps They don't really like to see you for a booking-in appointment until you've missed a couple of periods round our way. But obv make sure that you're booked in for nuchal scan between 11 and 13 weeks, as it's a bit dodgy after that. And ask them if they do the combined test, where they take bloods as well, as it's tres accurate.

I?m still not sure why up here we only get the blood tests (2 weeks yesterday till mine) and not the nuchal fold scan. Also, have noticed that my next scan is at nearly 23 weeks, not 20 weeks, so shall need to ask midwife about that when I see her.

For me, it was constant nausea (btw, my pedantic doctor friend likes to point out that one feels nauseated, not nauseous) satiated only by sweet things though for proper meals I did crave comfort food. I?m still not sure if I would have preferred a single upchuck each morning, to constant nausea, but nevermind, in the main it has passed now, though I did gag quite violently yesterday morning when dealing with the food waste bin (and it was fresh leftovers too.)

here the nuchal is only available privately. But the rest of the service is pretty good.

scorps if nothing else, thanks to the hippo CD I am getting some best night's sleep of my pregnancy, in between the usual nocturnal wees.

I reckon best time to start at about 5 or 6 months so you've got plenty of time to get practice. I think I would have got a bit bored of the damn thing had I started earlier...

Mr Moo was a bit WTF? at the whole suggestion, but is now on board and thinks relaxed wifelet better idea than wifelet screaming blue murder for 36 hours. Also in the course we have had to do some homework (nothing mentally taxing don't worry). It sounds really OTT, but thanks to that we had a 2 hour talk last night and it really has been lovely to discuss what's important to us both and really understand what Mr Moo thinks and feels. Made me cry, ALOT.

On a way more superficial note, just spent more time than is healthy trying to decide which cot mobile to buy. FFS.

Drom yes rational and totally acceptable for a pregnant lady. I cried when Peggy Mitchell left 'enders last week - sobbed like a baby.

Good tips here, PESHes. Am making notes about nuchal scans and bloods, hippo birthing, etc.

Drom, I think that sounds perfectly reasonable for anyone, pregnant or not.

Medee Don't worry about 2nd scan being at 23 weeks. My place like to do it as late as that too as they can see more of the anatomy. They won't do them later than 24 weeks for obvious reasons

When does one pack ones hospital bag?

We played the "name game" last night. We are still way off on the girls name decisions but think we are agreed on boys.

Speaking of irrational, I cried because a fly tried to land on the carrot I was chopping up.

Scorps that is a bummer about the grant. Fucking ConDems. Also, re: the nausea
I found wearing those travel sickness bands helped a lot. As did eating little and often (who mentioned Burger King? I was never there... Never I tell thee.) In fact, if you like I can send you my travel sickness bands seeing as I am 'not allowed' to get duffed again. Grrr. Also, would you like a doppler so you can listen to baybee's heartbeat from about week 11 or 12? I found it very comforting to be able to check that little Shrimp hadn't fallen out. No chance of mistaking that now...

Me and TG also found hippo-birthing good for us as a couple, it brought us closer together and got him more involved in the pregnancy. He is still burying his head in sand at mo, but we are doing hippo refresher course this weekend, couldn't be better timed. We have now got to the stage where I am apparently disturbing his sleep, so we is sorting out the futon in the baybee's room so he can sleep in there. Fuck knows how I disturb him - I fall alseep on left side (listening to hippo birthing) and remain that way until wake.