December 2010: no, it's not an autumn pumpkin up my jumper ...

[Miffster]

...and we're gliding towards the third trimester, draped in suitably flowing attire.

Squistle, blimey what an early start! Hope you're ok.

I am up too eatly because of my DH's snoring. He needs to do something to sort it out, there's no way a baby is going to sleep through it!

I think part of my inability to speak up is down to the fact that not one bugger seems to want to talk to me directly about their plans, every thing I hear about the plans for Christmas seem to come through second-hand.

Welcome sweetuphoria

Hey DF

I've been here since 8am so that's 6am your time! Got last lot of bloods to come out in 5 mins then off to speak to my doc about results. I'm starving! :) Xmas is going to be very busy here too. My mum is flying out for the birth and my bil &dn, mil & fil and my husband and me all live in the same row of houses! Not including my good friends who live around the corner will all be popping in :)

Hi,

Hettie - I've not got any sign of milk and never did have with my boys not even right up until D-Day... But then breastfed them just fine for months. (well, apart from the the usual glich like nipple thrush - ouch!).

DF - I reckon leave the xmas discussion for a while and if anyone mentions it including DH maybe just say that you have no idea when the baby will actually be here and therefore no idea how you will feel on xmas, so basically just dont get too involved. As long as DH knows that no plans should be made without involving you (especially involving people expecting to spend time at your house) then hopefully it should all be fine and you can forget about it for a couple of months. MY LO is due earlier (2nd) so I'm in a more predictable position re: xmas but I've still kept plans fluid. I've just told extended family to make whatever plans suit them and we'll slot in nearer the time. That way there is no pressure. We intend to go to my mums and see some family who will be there but my mum and MIL (and dad and FIL) are all really understanding so they are being really cool about it all. I guess its harder if people are making a fuss...

Is anyone else freaked out by the fact there is a due in may thread . I remember when this one started up and now they are talking May! Yikes!!! Its really not far for us is it...

Sugar test came back normal! Yey :o Off to find some dairy milk now..... hehehe

Only two more days to hospital trips to go, tomorrow with mil for check up after op and the day after for my eye check up. 2010 has been the year of the hospital for us!

I've just skipped to the end of the 505 messages so its probable that this has already been mentioned. Has anyone suffered any leakages? TMI I know but I have been leaking since Friday 10th. Saw GP on Tues who recommened I wait until my hospital appointment on Wed to get it checked out. At Wed appt doctor inserted something and had a good look (good thing I lost my dignity a long time ago) but couldn't find any leak. Leaking has since got worse and I have become Tena Lady. Was sure it was not leaking urine at first (clear liquid, no smell) but since Wed does appear to be.
So, my question is - could the doctor have made things worse by whatever it was that was inserted? Or could it simply be that bump has moved and is playing trampoline on my bladder. Can't move at moment without leaking and think DH fed up with my constant commentary on the matter. Also totally fed up because worried am rapidly becoming little old wee-smelling lady and only 37[confuesed]. Surely I have a good 30yrs left before that happens! Help!!!!!

moan time...anyone else feeling incredibly lonely? I have my family around me so know I shouldnt feel like I do but cant help feeling really lonely, the majority of my 'friends' aint interested now I cant get drunk with them and Im not 'fun lauren' anymore, leaving just 1 or 2 true friends (that already have kids so know what its like)...urgh, it'll just be the hormones

good news squistle

ifitsnotanarse sorry to hear of your problem. I don't have any suggestions to offer I'm afraid. Was the dr you saw a urologist or urogynaecologist?

I'm having real difficulty finding some cheap but decent bedroom furniture for DD - any suggestions anyone? Looking for something fairly plain so it doesn't date too quickly in a light wood.

I'm feeling a bit miserable too Lauren, just been to my NHS walk in centre as I've had an ear infection for 4 days and have now been given something for it. Also still being sick at least once a day last night I was sick 5 times.

I'm sure we'll be happy once our babies arrive

I'm sure you'll make lots of new friends at your antenatal classes and once the baby is born. You'll be allowed the odd night out too when you can be fun Lauren again

laurenemium DH does all the stuff most people take their car to garage for - it's an old Range Rover Classic 1970's or 80's I think and he does all the work on it - recently new suspension I think. If you look on my profile you will see the trike he restored for me to get to work and back in week.
wholelottalove DD was 5 on Tuesday but couldn't do midweek party with working away from home

Really looking forward to Tuesday - hopefully will get news on house then! I really need to be living with my family now - I couldn't tie my shoelaces earlier!?!

sorry you're feeling lonely lauren the hormones don't help

MrsS I know what you mean - I had to get DH to put my socks on for me this morning.

maxpower well DH had been saying I am bigger this time and that was confirmed today by the fact I can't do up the maternity jeans I was wearing at end of last pregnancy! Also DD godparents came 4 party and they said same ! Oh well looks like I may need some new clothes!

oh no lavita has that been all the way through? I have started again but only if I eat too much so I need to remember little and often to keep room for the ginormous baby squashing my stomach!

Thanks maxpower and lavita I think it was the hormones Im feeling better already! Just as I had posted this I had 2 invites to a dvd night tonight with the girls so was nice to watch a funny film and have a good catch up!

Hi girls,

I have been busy and again pages here to catch up :)

Lavita hope your ear infection has cleared up!!

Lauren we are here, don't feel lonely! I have no family around me and friends are mostly in different stages of life now that we decided to become parents. But keep yourself busy and check your area for moms-to-be activities and etc.

I am in moaning mood too as I have bad pain in my left bum cheek that keeps me grumpy these days. I can't walk and wobble around like somebody with a short leg. It is so bloody painful but still both GP and MW don't refer me to a pysiotherapist... Gosh I hate NHS and their bloody savings. I can't sleep, walk and drive and they just dismiss it as a normal pregnancy pain... grrrrrrrrrrr......

On positive note, today we went for a 4D scan and I am in LOVE with my baby's pictures and have watched the DVD over 10 times already! She is chubby, cute and very much so looking like DH!

But guess what? In my last two MW visits, I have been telling my sd MW that I feel an orange size something in my right side and it can only be baby's head. I insisted that I think the baby is breech! Each time she touched my belly, took a "I know it all" facial expression followed by "oh another annoying mom" expression and confirmed that the baby is head down and in perfect position. Now the 4D confirmed: the baby's head is right under my right boob where I feel the orange! This baby is breech and already too jammed in the place! Gosh I hope she moves, she looked very uncomfy with her feet, hands and everything jammed in front of her face.... How can I now trust this sd MW to give birth to my child now??? I am so angry with her and already fighting with her in my head preparing a speech for our next visit!

I HATE DOCTORS AND MWS THAT DISMISS patients concerns without properly checking.....

Grrrrrrrrr...

Sorry for being grumpy. I will go to bed now and wake up hopefully happier. Where did the good mood of second trimester go?

Mornin' everyone. Have sort of skimmed to catch up but I'm sure missed loads.

PJEN, if baby is breech, surely that is the excuse you've been looking for to get a section... or have you changed your mind on wanting a section.

My bum hurts too. But sounds like yours is worse. I agree that if a midwife insists you don't know what you are talking about and is then proven to be very obviously wrong, it's unlikley you will be able to put your faith in her for the delivery. What are the chances you will have a different midwife for the delivery?

Pjen I thought it was fairly normal for a baby to not be head down until the last six weeks or so?

Mine moves around loads - I get kicks low down and high up by my ribs and I think they have enough room to assume a final position until quite late on. So hopefully yours will move in time

PJen sorry to hear MW is not being particulalrly helpful. Although baby looks squashed in there is still plenty of time and space for them to move in the next few weeks. Supposedly being on your hands and knees is a good position to encourage them to move around into the right place. I remember with DD her head was up near my ribs until right near the end of the pregnancy because I used to be able to stroke her head, she moved round ok and came out normally so I wouldn't be overly concerned just yet.

Hope today is a better pain free day for everyone - I am very tired after travelling back late from DD party last night. Didn't get here till 2330 but at least I managed to sleep all night which is a bonus!

I am determined to have a productive week this week and try to go home on Thursday evening. We have the viewing of the 2 potential houses we are being offered tomorrow, I am at the point now where I would accept a shoebox as long as it means my family can move down here with me! We know that once the offer is formalised we will still have to wait 3 weeks for a move so I will be about 33-34 wks pregnant then - sooo looking forward to that one- not!!

At least once we have moved I can think about going part time - no point at moment as no where to go down here apart from my single room. It's like living in a hostel (and yes that does say hostel not hotel!)

I really want to start nesting and sorting out the baby things but can't do anything until we move, my friend is having an NCT nearly new sale and asked if I wanted first dibs on things but I said there is no point until we move and work out what we still need - what a waste of an opportunity!

Anyway looking on the birhgt side only 10 weeks to go at work of which 2 will be annual leave if we move so i can help with the unpacking - Aargh that means only 8 weeks to sort this job out for someone to take over - better get my rear end in gear and do some work

Morning all

Pjen I know exactly what you mean, I've had the same over various issues with midwives and I've been right but they always treat me like an idiot... 4d scan sounds lovely, going to book one myself soon. Wrt breech, there are positions you can do to encourage baby to turn and there should be plenty of room at this stage still. www.spinningbabies.com/baby-positions/breech-bottoms-up/about-breech interesting site here to look at

Well I've been having an "interesting" time, had to go into hospital to be monitored last week as baby wasn't moving as much (of course she did once we got there...) I wasn't feeling well at all and have had a few times where I've had to sit on the floor whilst out or collapse. Had lots of blood tests, ctg of baby, blood pressure etc and all seemed OK; dr told me it's all "normal" pregnancy but of course it isn't. Sent me home then got blood test results, I have low iron 9.4 (I assume low B12 still and iron stores) and also I got the glucose challenge test results back, I have high blood sugar so I have to go in on Wednesday to see midwife about it.

I expected this as I've been having lots of symptoms and feeling just awful lately and have complained about it to midwife many times...I'm 27 weeks on Thurs so at least managed to get the test done early along with early 28 week bloods so we'll see what happens now! I'm also worried that I'm losing weight again for no reason (barely put any on) even though I'm eating a lot.

Baby is waking me up loads in the night now with her kicking and also needing a wee 3 times a night! It's lovely sitting watching my tummy move though, the children and dh were all sitting the other day watching it jump and move about :o

Will post and catch up more later, hope everyone has a good day

cheese you have really been through it this week. I really hope everything can be sorted medically ASAP, can't believe they are so laid back about it.

Its great that baby at least is moving around and clearly feeling just fine!

My wriggler flips about like a fish in a net so I know she is not ready to settle into position- but my other 3 all got into position very early in pg and stayed there - I had a little triangle bump sticking out from the main bump under my rib where my son had his foot, that looked very freaky - I got so used to it that it was a bit strange meeting his real foot and thinking that was the one I'd been playing with for months. Of course, they are now size 9 smelly plates of meat :)

maxpower IKWYM about furniture chess - been playing all weekend now I have a ton of actual housework to do not to mention the decorating we moved it all for...so better move away from the computer...

Have a great day everyone.

Sorry you're having these funny turns C&G - hopefully once you've managed to get your iron levels up and seen midwife about your blood sugar then hopefully you'll start to feel better - strange about your weight though? Do you think thats just the stress you've been under affecting your metabolism?

PJEN - My Lo's head is also under my right boob! I can feel the hard lump and the MW confirmed baby is breech last week but she said no point even thinking about that until she checks at my next appt at 34 wks as the baby can easily move - dont think he has so far though. . Whether its true or not (soudns like not!) your MW will probably say that your baby may have moved between her check and the 4D scan. Are you having her at the delivery? I know some areas try to keep consistency but where I am this would never be the case as we see community mid-wives for ante-natal but they dont deliver at the hospital. Strange how areas are all so different...

Laurie - Great you had a good DVD night . I also felt really lonely when PG with DS1. I found that I missed out on a lot of good late nights out at pubs / clubs with my friends when I was living in London and then moved to Edinburgh with DH at 7 months pg and didn't know anyone. I made sure I joined lots of post natal groups and got out the house every day and it all soon got better.

I think weightloss is one of the sypmtopms of diabetes (gestational or otherwise). Basically all that sugar in your blood is not being digested by the insulin which is lacking and so it passes through you -- or something like that. I am not doctor. But, I think the weight loss and high blood sugar are linked. So, perhaps when you get the blood sugar sorted you'll gain some weight. (although i am secretly of anyone who isn't gaining weight at arp speed).

I am tired and aching and fed up with not being able to breathe properly... and not looking forward to f*ing red eye flight tomorrow.

I am so tempted to go to my work and say "I'm sorry, but I just can't hack it." The thing is, there is no one else to do my job and I would not like to be the schmuck who ruined damaged our profit. So, I guess I'm going.

Oh FGS. I finally get the time to post, do a massive long post and the site bloody goes down. Have LOST the damn post now too!

So brief summary is that the last few weeks have been filled with colds/croup and chicken pox. Also DS's birthday which DP and I were both ill for (and still are)

pjen I have the bum pain too. It's sciatica apparently and I can't get physio for it either.

Sorry if this post seems abrupt - I had a much better one written out before the site decided to lose it for me!

strix that is why I was cross with the MW as I asked her to refer me to doctor if baby is breech and she refused to even accept that the baby is breech!!! I know baby's turn but how can I convince her if at 34+ weeks I still feel the baby is breech and she argues?! I hate to have a last minute crash c-section when it could be planned etc.... grrrr...

Queenofdreams the GP dismissed mine as Sciatica too but I then corrected her that actually sciatica is very rare and has other side effects (pain) too... This is probably the more common PGP or lower back pain that can be really helped with psyotherapy. I am so going to push this time to get a referral... If it is Sciatica then they should put you on antibiotics as the flair infection of the nerve won't go away on it's own....

Positive notes, I have my baby's smile as my work computer background picture and I have to put down all the windows every half an hour to smile at her smile.... 29 weeks and 2 days.... less than 11 weeks to go..... yayyyy :)

I meant physiotherapy not psycotherapy!!

oi, PJEN, change your preferences to accept a CAT. Or, alternatively, CAT me.

Your hospital is sorry to say this rubbish! Everyone whould have the right to see a cosultant just because they asked. That's horrible.

When I asked to see the consultant at C&W, they just sent me up to the window to book it. I saw the consultant (not a registrar) and he was lovely.

Do you have a hospital choice? Could yo back to your GP and ask about going elsewhere. I would highly recommend bothe QC and C&W if you can get into either of those. Might be too late though. I just think there is no excuse for the way they are treating you.

strix what's CAT and CAT me? :)