December 2010, where we waft about in mat gear eating icecream

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Yo December 2010 ladies, here we go - the mid-point of our pregnancies...and beyond!

Strix, Mumatron, Jobob. That's reassuring that the placenta moved up for all of you. SHe was a cow, you're right Strix, the conversation went something like this:

Her: There's the placenta, it's over the exit, that's the dark bit, I'll have to refer you for another scan.

Me: What does that mean?

Her: You'll need a cs

Me: Erm, oh right (to DP), Well that buggers up my home birth

Her: Well it might not you'll need to wait til you have another scan.

Me: What are the chances of it having moved by then? Do they move up during pregnancy?

Her: I';m not a mw, you'll have to ask your mw that. I only pass the info on.

Sorry to gatecrash...

Lavitabella - can I direct you to this thread

Thank you.

Hi all, haven't been around lately as DS was ill and now DD is too, nothing serious just a virus giving them a bit of a fever and making them feel unwell. I panicked yesterday though when DD came out in a rash, I was terrifeid it could be rubella as the MW told me I'm not immune anymore. Took her to the doctors and all's fine, just a harmless virus. Normally wouldn't have crossed my mind it could be rubella but it's in the back of my mind that I (and baby) are not protected so worried a bit.

93pjb YANBU. I had a similar conversation with DH (then DP) when expecting our first, he was sent to the south coast 3 weeks before I was due, then was working close to or at home after that. He had to go as he worked away mon-fri and there was nothing closer till the next week. DD was born two days after he left - he missed it by 20 mins. Does your DH just want to go or does he have to? If it's just that he wants to go you need to tell him that there's a real possibility that he may miss the birth. But if he has to go then you'll have to hope he gets back in time.

20 week scan tomorrow DH has been able to get time off this time.
I'm excited but also scared as at DS's 20 week scan one of the measurements wasborderline high so had to have a more detailed scan at Leeds General. Then had a nightmare getting an appointment as the referral didn't go through so spent several days ringing endless departments, just to be told that if the doctor who saw me after the scan had called I could've been scanned the next day instead of waiting the worst week of my life for a scan. Thankfully DS is fine but the experience still has an effect on me.

Sorry for the mammoth post.

OK where to start

PJen - stop panicking - it's not as bad as you are imagining I only had a dose of pethidine at 0030 for back ache and had DD at 0730 ish - no gas and air (made me feel sick so gave up on it) - went in birth pool for a few hours but got out to deliver, tore a little but didn't know until MW asked if I wanted stitching - said no, healed naturally - home 9 hours later. No super saggy body parts, no "body fluids" obvious in birth pool, no poo . women have been doing this for years and a spreviously posted if it was that bad we would all only have one (or have found a way to make men do it )

cherylanntweedy & chloesbabay - we are all "doing it" at QA then?! I am still debating using the MLU at Blake - have to wait to see the consultant at the end of August as to whether he thinks it will be ok for me. It looks quite nice and I had a MW appt there yesterday which was really positive. She spent loads of time going through things with me , chased up my scan and consultant appt times and was a thoroughly lovely lady! Much better than being where we were. Scan is Friday afternoon this week, DH and DD are coming down from London for it so it means we can all drive home together as opposed to having to get a Friday afternoon bus - does mean DH has to miss his surprise leaving party from "the patch" - they forgot to take his email off the list when organising it for him - he said it would have been nice if they had asked if he was free that day before planning it!
Scans at QA - now the scan is at 20wks it is easier to sex the baby - a lot harder at 16 wks hence why they didn't do it at St M's - according to the MW yesterday.

Feeling thoroughly hacked off with the whole house sitaution at the moment - didn't sleep well last night and soam tired today, don't want to be at work just want to be at home in my bed having a weep - sorry hormonal weep i think as nothing really wrong!

cheryl she does sound like a complete cow! how horrible. my sonographer at QA for 12 wk scan was really nice (she even said, I like your baby), so hope I don't get your one when I go for 20 wk scan in 2 weeks.

MrsS sorry you're feeling so rubbish - i've been crying loads even though I'm actually really happy. the other day i started sobbing because DH wanted to put a chilli in our dinner and i didn't!

I'm still weighing up where to deliver. Think the midwife unit at QA is probably the best bet for me - and easy to transfer should anything happen. I haven't been for a tour yet, so will probably see if I can book in.

TMI warning - I have got a horrendously itchy left nipple It's been bothering me for weeks although stupidly I forgot to ask MW at last appt. It's only in one place and the skin keeps getting really dry and flaky and tbh a little scabby (urgh, sorry). Any ideas anyone?

Oh, thats so bad Cheryl - especially as you were looking forward to the detailed scan. Such a shame she didn't explain the placenta issue with you AND that you didn't get to see your baby properly! It can be so lovely when done well... Were you planning another private scan - 4d or 3d? I think you said you were going to do one which would a good way of seeing the LO again .

No itchy nipple I'm afraid chloesbaby - although I know of people who have - no clue what causes it though?

Good luck to all those wtih 20wk scans coming up!

crazykat welcome back Hope your DD and DS make a full recovery soon and good luck for the scan, mine is on Thursday.
Does anyone know, do they ajust the due date at the 20 week scan? I have a gorrible feeling if they do that they will make it so early that it's impossible and I will look like I am overdue when really I am not.

Cheryl Here is some info on placenta previa from Mayo Clinic.

I would be fuming mad at this women. In fact, I would probably formally complain about her refusal to share information. I mean I am not a midwife either, and I can tell you a lot more about placenta previa than she bothered to.

I think at the point when she said "I only pass the info on" I would have said "So why are you here?"

WHy does the NHS put peoploe in job who are so clearly not qualified to do that job. How can they justify giving a women a scan and informing her that the placenta is over the exit and not be able (or willing) to tell her what that means?!?! Outrageous. You appear to be much calmer than i would be.

I would go to the MW with lots of information about placenta previa in my hand and tell her that I need to know how much of the placenta is covering how much of the cervix. If she doesn't have this information, I would ask (demand if necessary) a consultant appointment to discover the risks, and what the chances are of the placenta moving up, possibility of still having a homebrth, etc.

Her crass demeanor is totally inexcusable. I am really on your behalf. You are the patient and you have a right to be infomed. She herself said that was her job (to inform you) but she has not fulfilled that job.

Lavita What about the following Saturday? Or I can do a Monday or Wednesday evening?

PJen - it sounds like hypnotherapy might really help you. It seems to be most use for women who are scared of birth.

FYI Epidurals don't always work and having an epidural (even a botched one) means you're at higher risk of needing further interventions, such as forceps, for which an episotomy would be normal. Okay, if the epidural does work, you shouldn't feel it, but personally I'd prefer to minimise my risk of needing one or tearing in the first place!

DF - they shouldn't adjust your EDD again as dating is less accurate after 14 weeks because your baby's growth rate is affected by your metabolism now, whereas before they basically grow to a standard pattern!

chloesbaby - Def ask the MW or GP as it could be thrush or similar.

I'm really hormonal emotional too. Had my BIL's wedding at the w/e and it was mostly an endurance test for me, what with the SPD and uncomfortable seats and being on my feet too much. I spent 20 minutes in the loo in floods of tears. I'm now absolutely shattered.

Is anyone else getting comments/looks on how big their bump is? People seem really surprised when they ask when I'm due and I say "december".

I haven't ventured much beyond this thread, except to the ethical living and Bristol sections, and having just done so I'm starting to think there are some rather (ahem, to put it politely) high maintenance people out there! It's nice and safe in here

japhrimel thanks for that. i know i should get it checked - i keep putting it off.

no comments on size of bump - mainly because I hardly have one! I'd really love it to grow but the only comments I've had are - you're not really showing yet, are you?
It is there, but it can be easily hidden with clothes and is hardly noticeable when I lie down. Hope it grows soon - I'd love a big lovely round bump!

i get comments about the bump but it varies from wow your massive! to omg your tiny!. seriously people make up your mind!

ggg mn is a wonderful place full of fab advice and very funny people, but there are a few bitches high maintenance people aswell. i only post on threads that are unlikely to decend into fights or if i can advise. if a thread is asking for opinions i tend to read but not post as some people just can't see others pov and the op tends to get forgotten while other posters bicker.

Hi everyone! Just wanted to put my name down. I am 17 weeks with dc3. I've had the 12wk scan and got the news I'm low risk. Had my 2nd appointment with MW last week and heard the heatbeat for the first time -- so very happy!!!

I'll be 41 when dc3 is born, so was waiting to join this thread once everything was checked and okay. Hope everyone is well, haven't read entire thread.

Japhrimel: I haven't had any comments on my bump yet. I am beginning to wonder if everyone just thinks I've been eating a bit too much lately. Oh well.

welcome kathsmum

I am 40 and will be a few months shy of 41 when this baby arrives.

Hi everyone

Haven't posted for a while, felt utterly crap yesterday - felt nauseous and tired and just rubbish in general - but not feeling too bad today.

I honestly don't mean to offend anyone here so please don't take it personally but I find it crazy that my mam is 41 and about to get her first grandchild when some of you are around the same age - I feel like the baby of the group

Chloesbaby have you tried E45/sudocrem/vaseline....might ease the itching if you are well moisturised

On a more serious note, I just found out someone I know got shot in Afghanistan yesterday, he is in a critical condition but two others already died He is really a friend of a friend but it's still really sad.

Welcome Kathsunn and congratulations

DuelingF: Nice to know I'm not the only one past the optimal age! When are you due?

My EDD is 27th Dec., but scan gave EDD as 24th Dec. With my history of going over 40wks, it will probably be New Years eve.

Thanks mumatron that's good advice!

Hey aimee sorry to hear you've been feeling crap. Wow that is young to be a grandma - my mum is 60. The symmetry of the fact that she was born in 1950, me in 1980 and LO due in 2010, all spaced exactly thirty years apart and on decades, rather pleases my geeky mind. When LO is 30, I will be 60 and my mum 90 (hopefully), so we'll have to have a massive party for the occasion!

Kathsunn we have a stats thread here - feel free to add yourself

aimee Got distracted from my original point by the geeky waffle. I think your mum is really lucky to be a grandma so young and it's lovely for your LO too. My grandma was already an OAP when I was born and never able to do much with me. Your mum will really be able to make the most of it!

GGG I'm not sure she sees it like that just yet but I guess she will eventually. My grandma is 65 so will be getting her great-grandma status quite young too (and when she beats the cancer she won't be too old to enjoy LO), my late great-grandma was 93 when she died last month, it's kind of sad she didn't know I was pregnant, but I look at it as there were 5 generations on the earth (just one hiding away inside me)

That's really nice with the symmetry - like mother like daughter

Hello

Welcome Kathsunn and congratulations.

aimee0211 Having Children decreases age gaps IMO, DH and I are really close friends with DD's friends parents, who are older than my Mum and Dad!
about your friend, hope he pulls through.

GGG I have been on and off MN for about 8 years, though much of that was lurking, and I like to think of MN as the little girl who had a little curl, when she was good she was very very good, when she was bad she was horrid! And remember people say things they would never say without their laptops for protection! I think you will be fine though, the posts I've read of yours have always been witty and eloquent.

japh people keep telling me I am going to be massive by Dec, I don't feel huge now, and I think some people who don't know me very well are still politely wondering if I am pregnant or if I've just got even fatter!

Cheryl I have always had similar experiences with sonographers, the one who did DD's 20 week scan didn't speak throughout the whole thing! However DD's friends Mum is a very experienced sonographer and she told me that they really are just there to take/pass on information although she agreed that is not an excuse to e rude.

DF When I had my 20 week scan with DS they changed my EDD, I argued that I couldn't have got pg then as DH was away but they wouldn't have it, I believe that is the reason DS was so big.

It is raining the so heavily here I am considering building an Ark! I suspect my child-free time will be cut short if it carries on, nevermind I am desparate to see Toy Story 3!
I am 17+5 today, and not sure how often I should be feeling the baby move (yes I know I should be an expert by now!) seemed to be very quiet the last couple of days. Is it too soon to be counting kicks?
Also the MW said I would hear results of triple in 7 days if high risk, is that 7 working days? Had it a week today, but don't want to relax too soon.

Sorry for mammoth post!

Hi Kath. You sound like me. I am also 17 weeks. Also pregnant with DC 3. Also heard heart beat at my second MW appointment last week. And, I am 40 now, and will be 41 when the baby is born.

You are the baby of the group Aimee... but rest assured I am very .

Sorry about your friend. I hope he pulls through. I have a step nephew who a couple of years ago - when he was 18 and a recent highschool grad in the states joined the marines to pay for uni (which is VERY expensive in the states) got his girlfriend pregnant (apparently something to do with Basic Training completion celebrations), was called up for active duty, and married the girlfriend literally the night before he shipped out. He is a rather large build naturally and was apparently one of the Marines storming houses in the surge - not somebody I would like to run into in a dark alley. It's all so weird to me. I just remember this cute little six year old whose mum was marrying my brother. Anyway, while he was on active service and on a mission, one of his friends (co-Marines) was killed. I think he was also 18. I think my nephew had to do a lot of growing up that year. He is home now, his son is 2, happily married... but he has been told that he's going to Afghanistan in the Autumn.

I'm sure these guys don't get enough thanks.

Aw thanks notso that's a lovely thing to say

aimee I am sorry to hear about your friend, I can vouch he is in the best hands with the medical staff "out there" and they will do everything they can. If he is serious enough to come back here he will be back within 24 hours normally. fingers crossed for him.

Have decided I am "going home" for the rest of the day - well back to my room anyway, still feeling awful and sick for some reason so going for a lie down!

Might see you all later

Mrs S

This is such a nice thread! thay you for the welcome!!

Strix: We are living parallel lives. DH and I had decided 2 was enough, but changed my mind at the last minute (not sure if I will live to regret it). I'm now convinced 3 will be the perfect number.

Aimee2011: Some days I sort of wish I was becoming a gran at 41 rather than a mum. Much easier on the figure.